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Old 01-18-08 | 07:53 AM
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The DGA deal contains new-media gains that significantly improve upon what was being offered the WGA when the scribe talks imploded six weeks ago. And the DGA touted its agreement Thursday as a breakthrough.
Sounds like the WGA ended up paving a smooth renegotiation for the DGA from that little paragraph!
Old 01-18-08 | 10:17 AM
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Sounds like the WGA ended up paving a smooth renegotiation for the DGA from that little paragraph!
From what I understand of the history of DGA-AMPTP relations, I think it's more likely that the WGA struck for nothing. The DGA apparently has a way about getting deals done that are beneficial and that get made pretty quickly without much tension.
Old 01-18-08 | 10:23 AM
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From what I understand of the history of DGA-AMPTP relations, I think it's more likely that the WGA struck for nothing. The DGA apparently has a way about getting deals done that are beneficial and that get made pretty quickly without much tension.
I actually agree that if the WGA had continue to work while negotiating, they likely would have ended up at least 80% towards what they wanted.

They'll never get reality and animation, so they should give that shit right up.
Old 01-18-08 | 10:07 PM
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Somewhat good news to report. After well over a month of silence, the WGA and AMPTP are going to begin informal talks as soon as Monday.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...029ed7ffb468f2


The WGA will begin informal talks with studio CEOs, perhaps as soon as Monday, in an effort to resume formal negotiations with the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers.

That news -- from a key WGA source requesting anonymity -- follows Thursday's announcement of a new contract for the DGA. The striking WGA, which hasn't held a negotiating session with the AMPTP since Dec. 7, will study terms of the DGA contract all weekend, the guild insider said.

The WGA negotiating meeting is set to meet Saturday and again on Tuesday, with the WGA board set to meet Tuesday night.

"We're going to follow the same pattern as the DGA," the guild source said, "first meeting with the studio executives informally and then maybe following that up with actual negotiations. But first we have to study all of the details of the DGA deal."
Old 01-18-08 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
From what I understand of the history of DGA-AMPTP relations, I think it's more likely that the WGA struck for nothing. The DGA apparently has a way about getting deals done that are beneficial and that get made pretty quickly without much tension.
From what I recall ready, the DGA does have a good history of getting deals done - just not the best deals. It was the DGA that shorted all the guilds on home video residuals in the last round of big contracts.
Old 01-18-08 | 10:25 PM
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From what I recall ready, the DGA does have a good history of getting deals done - just not the best deals. It was the DGA that shorted all the guilds on home video residuals in the last round of big contracts.
Probably because most of the big name directors aren't so worried about residuals given the amount of back end points they get.
Old 01-19-08 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by clemente
From what I recall ready, the DGA does have a good history of getting deals done - just not the best deals. It was the DGA that shorted all the guilds on home video residuals in the last round of big contracts.
Oh, I totally agree. The DGA clearly is looking for a good but not great deal. The WGA on the other hand seems to be looking to drive the hardest bargain ever if you really think they're totally committed to every one of their objectives.
Old 01-19-08 | 01:18 AM
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The new Entertainment Weekly has some interesting information about the strike.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20172472_3,00.html

If the strike ends by February 1:

Procedural shows like CSI could crank out up to 6 more episodes.

NBC says they can crank out around 5 more The Office episodes.

Lost will be able to finish it's back 8 episodes....

If they resolve this thing in late February or beyond, then the we'll probably have to wait until next Fall for new episodes because it's not going to be worth it to make 1-2 episodes.

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Old 01-19-08 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
The new Entertainment Weekly has some interesting information about the strike.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20172472_3,00.html

If the strike ends by February 1:

Procedural shows like CSI could crank out up to 6 more episodes.

NBC says they can crank out around 5 more The Office episodes.

Lost will be able to finish it's back 8 episodes....

If they resolve this thing in late February or beyond, then the we'll probably have to wait until next Fall for new episodes because it's not going to be worth it to make 1-2 episodes.
What happened to the idea the networks were floating about having a "summer season" that would lead directly into the 08-09 season?
Old 01-19-08 | 10:53 AM
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I had a thought the other day about this writer's strike, and I wondered if I would even care once Scrubs, Heroes, and some of the other shows I watch come back on. I never went back to baseball after their strike, and there's a part of me that has quit caring altogether about TV.
Old 01-19-08 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by reubs82
I had a thought the other day about this writer's strike, and I wondered if I would even care once Scrubs, Heroes, and some of the other shows I watch come back on. I never went back to baseball after their strike, and there's a part of me that has quit caring altogether about TV.
Yeah people might lose interest in current shows that are now on hiatus but I doubt it will last long. Once networks start releasing new and good shows people will be back on the wagon.
Old 01-19-08 | 10:29 PM
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Well, first off, no one cares about Heroes anymore.
Speak for yourself. Few shows discussed here get the volume of comments that Heroes did this season. I know I'm very interested to see what happens with it going forward, both from a story perspective and also from a behind the scenes one.
Old 01-21-08 | 07:48 AM
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I saw this on this guy's blog, and it sounds pretty reasonable to me:

January 18, 2008
Yup. Had a feeling this was going to happen

I had a feeling the AMPTP was stonewalling the WGA for the simple reason that they saw no point in bargaining with the WGA. Instead they were waiting for talks with the Directors Guild. Why? Because, in my opinion, what the AMPTP *really* wants to avoid is the WGA unionizing animation writers, reality show writers, etc. So the reasoning was simple: Refuse to talk to the WGA. Wait instead for the DGA's contract negotiations to start. Come across as completely reasonable on the very points that they were stonewalling the WGA on. And once the DGA ratifies the agreement, then the pressure is suddenly on the WGA to accept the terms and go back to work.

My guess? The plan will work.
Old 01-21-08 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nateman241

Well, first off, no one cares about Heroes anymore.
The weekly threads with 5+ pages of posts in the them every week begs to differ.

Granted, most people hate it, but they still care about it.
Old 01-21-08 | 11:11 AM
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I saw this on this guy's blog, and it sounds pretty reasonable to me:

January 18, 2008
Yup. Had a feeling this was going to happen

I had a feeling the AMPTP was stonewalling the WGA for the simple reason that they saw no point in bargaining with the WGA. Instead they were waiting for talks with the Directors Guild. Why? Because, in my opinion, what the AMPTP *really* wants to avoid is the WGA unionizing animation writers, reality show writers, etc. So the reasoning was simple: Refuse to talk to the WGA. Wait instead for the DGA's contract negotiations to start. Come across as completely reasonable on the very points that they were stonewalling the WGA on. And once the DGA ratifies the agreement, then the pressure is suddenly on the WGA to accept the terms and go back to work.

My guess? The plan will work.
Good, I want my Lost!
Old 01-21-08 | 05:16 PM
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Talks will resume tomorrow after a month and a half hiatus.
Old 01-22-08 | 02:51 PM
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Well, apparently today's "talks" weren't really "talks" at all. They were just "informal talks" to see if there was enough interest and motivation on either side to resume "formal talks". And now they have to go back to their respective camps and discuss the results of these informal talks, and decide whether to talk more with each other about when they might resume formal talks.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...Aa0fwD8UB4JOG0
Old 01-22-08 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
Well, apparently today's "talks" weren't really "talks" at all. They were just "informal talks" to see if there was enough interest and motivation on either side to resume "formal talks". And now they have to go back to their respective camps and discuss the results of these informal talks, and decide whether to talk more with each other about when they might resume formal talks.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...Aa0fwD8UB4JOG0
God bless the lawyers.
Old 01-22-08 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RoboDad
Well, apparently today's "talks" weren't really "talks" at all. They were just "informal talks" to see if there was enough interest and motivation on either side to resume "formal talks". And now they have to go back to their respective camps and discuss the results of these informal talks, and decide whether to talk more with each other about when they might resume formal talks.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...Aa0fwD8UB4JOG0

Sounds like time to form a committee.
Old 01-24-08 | 05:43 PM
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BIG NEWS:

The WGA has withdrawn their demand for jurisdiction over animation and reality. We could have a deal soon if the DGA residuals and new media numbers are agreeable to the WGA.

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...d=VR1117979483
Old 01-24-08 | 06:20 PM
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So if we do finally get a deal done when do we get new episodes or will they just wait until next fall to finish the shows?
Old 01-24-08 | 06:22 PM
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There was an article that said if they can finish the deal by February 1, we can possibly get at least 6 episodes of most procedural shows. The Office can crank out at least 5 episodes.
Old 01-24-08 | 07:46 PM
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Lionsgate reached an interim deal with the WGA.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...1935a12ca41e03

Thank God! At least Saw V will get made.
Old 01-25-08 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Thank God! At least Saw V will get made.


Personally, I'd rather most shows just start up again next season on a fresh start. Most of the shows I'm watching ended on a decent mid-season cliffhanger that I'm contented to sit on until next fall. Seriously, everyone should simply consider the extra time a bonus to create geniunely good programming instead of some of the tripe we had the season (hello, Bionic Woman?). I'm still hoping this delay will prevent new pilots for the networks to option to series so that Journeyman will have to return.
Old 01-25-08 | 08:45 AM
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I still think this will be over by late Feb (maybe by the Oscars, but unlikely). The WGA will have to take nearly an identical package to the DGA.


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