High School Musical 2
08-19-07 | 09:02 AM
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We hosted a "viewing party" for my daughter's friends on Friday night. Yeah, it wasn't very good. Still I thought some of the songs were okay. Couldn't figure out why Chad declared "I Don't Dance" in song, when he clearly does.
It's a kid phenom unlike any other. I think the original is all right in a vanilla, inuendo-free Grease-lite sort of way. Hard to believe, but the first soundtrack was the best selling CD of 2006. I bet the soundtrack of this one moves over 1 million units this week alone.
It's a kid phenom unlike any other. I think the original is all right in a vanilla, inuendo-free Grease-lite sort of way. Hard to believe, but the first soundtrack was the best selling CD of 2006. I bet the soundtrack of this one moves over 1 million units this week alone.
08-19-07 | 09:29 AM
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Speaking of Hannah Montana, my daughter is just getting into that. I was wondering how the audience knows knows where the jokes are, but now I've figured it out -- they laugh hysterically after every line. That makes it a lot easier for them that way.
My God, Camryn Mannheim is in this episode now. I guess an Emmy will only carry you for so long.
My God, Camryn Mannheim is in this episode now. I guess an Emmy will only carry you for so long.
08-19-07 | 11:17 AM
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My kids had some friends over for the premiere too, and were they ever mesmerized! I thought it was a cute and clean movie, and really liked the fact that there wasnt any promotion of sex, drugs and violence. However, that Sharpay was quite the beeeyahtch.
I thought the music was better this time around too, much faster....
LOL, as for everyone else that's trapped in the world of Hannah Montana....I'm there too. I just hope she doesnt go down the path of Lohan. Speaking of Hannah Montana, you know she's going out on tour....theres some dates scheduled already, so you may want to check it out and surprise your kids.
I thought the music was better this time around too, much faster....
LOL, as for everyone else that's trapped in the world of Hannah Montana....I'm there too. I just hope she doesnt go down the path of Lohan. Speaking of Hannah Montana, you know she's going out on tour....theres some dates scheduled already, so you may want to check it out and surprise your kids.
08-19-07 | 10:42 PM
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Wonder if the inevitable third will be as good.
08-20-07 | 09:10 AM
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I walked into my bedroom about 75% of the way through the movie and some kid was walking along the beach at night. My 6-year-old daughter was a mess with tears saying it was sad. She said no one died. What was so traumatic, a break-up? 
08-20-07 | 11:46 AM
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Yeah, mine did the same thing. I asked her what happened, did they break up, and she said yes. I told her don't worry, they get back together at the end, and the tears stopped 
hahaha
hahaha
08-20-07 | 12:59 PM
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I can't believe I watched this 'live' on Friday at 5 pm PST
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070820/...ighschool_dc_1
But I wanted to see what all of the hype was about. I can see why pre-teens and teens would like this kind of movie. But for me, it was
I recorded HSM1 on Saturday and if I get really bored I will watch that one.
But as a Disney employee, I'm all for 'most-watched basic cable telecast of all time' and '$650 million in sales in fiscal-year 2008'
Chris
"High School" sequel smashes ratings records
By Nellie Andreeva
Mon Aug 20, 1:55 AM ET
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Disney Channel's highly anticipated "High School Musical 2" danced its way to history Friday night when 17.24 million viewers tuned in, making the original movie's debut the most-watched basic cable telecast of all time.
"Musical 2," a sequel to the successful 2006 movie that has spawned all manner of spin-offs, surpassed the previous record holder, ESPN's "Monday Night Football" game on September 23, 2006, which averaged 16 million viewers.
It also shattered the previous basic cable record for an entertainment program, surpassing the 12.5 million viewers who saw the 2001 premiere of the TNT Western "Crossfire Trail."
Overall, "Musical 2" was the most watched program on television since the season finale of Fox's hit drama "House" on May 29 logged 17.26 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research.
Additionally, "Musical 2" ranked as the most-watched TV telecast ever in kids 6-11 (6.1 million) as well as the most-watched entertainment telecast ever (and the second-highest-rated overall, behind only the 2004 Super Bowl) among tweens 9-14 (5.9 million).
The numbers, which include an eye-popping 9.4 million cable homes, would be even higher if the fact that many kids and parents nationwide gathered to watch at viewing parties was taken into account.
"Breaking the viewership record is terrific, but records come and go, and what's really important is the impact the 'High School Musical' movies have had on kids all over America and all over the world," said Gary Marsh, Disney Channel Worldwide entertainment president.
"Musical 2" also dwarfed the broadcast competition to become the most-watched Friday telecast in more than five years. It drew as many viewers as the Big Four broadcast networks combined and led Disney Channel to its second Friday win in the entire Nielsen universe after the cable channel's victory from 8-9:30 p.m. on July 19.
"Musical 2" had emerged as the TV event of the summer for preteen girls, who for weeks were planning parties tied to the premiere. As a precursor to the records to come, an encore telecast of the original "High School Musical" on Thursday drew 6 million viewers, an astounding 78% of the 7.7 million who watched the premiere of the film in 2006 and good enough for third place overall on the night behind only Fox and CBS.
In a sign of the franchise's meteoric rise from cable telefilm to cultural phenomenon, the second installment's marketing campaign included a giant billboard ad on Sunset Boulevard, a spot normally reserved for blockbuster features like "Pirates of the Caribbean."
Since the first "Musical" movie premiered, it has become a global phenomenon and a lucrative franchise for the Walt Disney Co., spawning successful DVDs, CDs, games, live performances and lines of clothing and merchandise. "Musical"-related consumer products alone are expected to bring in $650 million in sales in fiscal-year 2008. A "Musical 3" feature is in the works at Walt Disney Pictures for release next year.
Although Disney Channel is handing over the "Musical" franchise to the company's feature division for the third movie, "there will be a lot of ways to keep it alive in the hearts and the minds of our young viewers for years to come," Marsh said.
In addition to reruns of the two movies and replays of the music videos spawned from them, Disney Channel soon will premiere "High School Musical: The Music In You," a musical-documentary from Oscar-winning filmmaker Barbara Kopple that chronicles the efforts of students in Fort Worth, Texas, to produce a "Musical" stage adaptation.
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
By Nellie Andreeva
Mon Aug 20, 1:55 AM ET
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Disney Channel's highly anticipated "High School Musical 2" danced its way to history Friday night when 17.24 million viewers tuned in, making the original movie's debut the most-watched basic cable telecast of all time.
"Musical 2," a sequel to the successful 2006 movie that has spawned all manner of spin-offs, surpassed the previous record holder, ESPN's "Monday Night Football" game on September 23, 2006, which averaged 16 million viewers.
It also shattered the previous basic cable record for an entertainment program, surpassing the 12.5 million viewers who saw the 2001 premiere of the TNT Western "Crossfire Trail."
Overall, "Musical 2" was the most watched program on television since the season finale of Fox's hit drama "House" on May 29 logged 17.26 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research.
Additionally, "Musical 2" ranked as the most-watched TV telecast ever in kids 6-11 (6.1 million) as well as the most-watched entertainment telecast ever (and the second-highest-rated overall, behind only the 2004 Super Bowl) among tweens 9-14 (5.9 million).
The numbers, which include an eye-popping 9.4 million cable homes, would be even higher if the fact that many kids and parents nationwide gathered to watch at viewing parties was taken into account.
"Breaking the viewership record is terrific, but records come and go, and what's really important is the impact the 'High School Musical' movies have had on kids all over America and all over the world," said Gary Marsh, Disney Channel Worldwide entertainment president.
"Musical 2" also dwarfed the broadcast competition to become the most-watched Friday telecast in more than five years. It drew as many viewers as the Big Four broadcast networks combined and led Disney Channel to its second Friday win in the entire Nielsen universe after the cable channel's victory from 8-9:30 p.m. on July 19.
"Musical 2" had emerged as the TV event of the summer for preteen girls, who for weeks were planning parties tied to the premiere. As a precursor to the records to come, an encore telecast of the original "High School Musical" on Thursday drew 6 million viewers, an astounding 78% of the 7.7 million who watched the premiere of the film in 2006 and good enough for third place overall on the night behind only Fox and CBS.
In a sign of the franchise's meteoric rise from cable telefilm to cultural phenomenon, the second installment's marketing campaign included a giant billboard ad on Sunset Boulevard, a spot normally reserved for blockbuster features like "Pirates of the Caribbean."
Since the first "Musical" movie premiered, it has become a global phenomenon and a lucrative franchise for the Walt Disney Co., spawning successful DVDs, CDs, games, live performances and lines of clothing and merchandise. "Musical"-related consumer products alone are expected to bring in $650 million in sales in fiscal-year 2008. A "Musical 3" feature is in the works at Walt Disney Pictures for release next year.
Although Disney Channel is handing over the "Musical" franchise to the company's feature division for the third movie, "there will be a lot of ways to keep it alive in the hearts and the minds of our young viewers for years to come," Marsh said.
In addition to reruns of the two movies and replays of the music videos spawned from them, Disney Channel soon will premiere "High School Musical: The Music In You," a musical-documentary from Oscar-winning filmmaker Barbara Kopple that chronicles the efforts of students in Fort Worth, Texas, to produce a "Musical" stage adaptation.
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
But I wanted to see what all of the hype was about. I can see why pre-teens and teens would like this kind of movie. But for me, it was
I recorded HSM1 on Saturday and if I get really bored I will watch that one.
But as a Disney employee, I'm all for 'most-watched basic cable telecast of all time' and '$650 million in sales in fiscal-year 2008'
Chris
08-21-07 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JMLEWIS1
So I'm gathering that this is a movie? I thought it was a series...do they just have one movie a year or something and it's like a made for tv thing?
08-21-07 | 04:54 PM
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Why nateman, do you watch the Disney Channel every day and it would hurt your viewing pleasure of Disney if they made a series?
Sheesh, it's a kids movie, and it'd be a kids show. It's not like it'd hurt you at all.
Sheesh, it's a kids movie, and it'd be a kids show. It's not like it'd hurt you at all.
08-21-07 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Seantn
Why nateman, do you watch the Disney Channel every day and it would hurt your viewing pleasure of Disney if they made a series?
Sheesh, it's a kids movie, and it'd be a kids show. It's not like it'd hurt you at all.
Sheesh, it's a kids movie, and it'd be a kids show. It's not like it'd hurt you at all.
As I am now able to comment as a parent, I can say I feel it would hurt me by way of hurting the intelligence level of my offspring. Yes, I thought it was that bad.
I've never understood this type of argument, usually used for defending bad movies as "popcorn" flicks, just because they don't offer anything resembling a coherent plot, or dialogue that doesn't sound like it came straight from the manatee tank. It still manages to hurt people that don't watch it, because we still have to live on the same planet as the people that do. That means we get stuck behind them in traffic or the drive-thru line, they wait on us at the DMV, etc.
If they stopped making entertainment that pandered to the lowest common denominator, then the population would be forced to get smarter just so they can go to the movies or watch TV.
08-22-07 | 01:32 AM
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I think you're a little harsh on HSM 2. Yeah, it's not great. But at the same time, it's not terrible. It has positive messages and I know that my daughter isn't picking up bad habits or bad words from it. The first one was kind of a statement against uniformity and for a more diverse group of interests. And the songs are pretty catchy. Yeah, it gets old if your kid watches it as often as my girl does, but that could be true of almost any project. It's harmless bubble gum entertainment and on that level it works pretty well. And if I was certain Ashley Tisdale was over 18, I might admit she's pretty hot as well.
08-22-07 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Decker
And if I was certain Ashley Tisdale was over 18, I might admit she's pretty hot as well.
But it brings up something that really bothers me. With regards to Hayden Panettiere (Heroes), who turned 18 yesterday. Why was it not okay to say she was hot on the 20th, when she was 17? But it was 100% okay to start having dirty thoughts about her when she was 18?
Why can't most men admit that they are attracted to someone who is 16 or 17 years old, especially when they look and act so much like an adult? Young women grow up so much faster today and look a lot older than the young women of 20 or 30 years ago. Society is forcing them to grow up faster than they should and then society says that we cannot say they are 'hot', when in fact they are.
Was Hayden not 'hot' on the 20th and suddenly became 'hot' on the 21st?
Come one, let's be honest here.
Chris
08-22-07 | 12:38 PM
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And while were at it, Vanessa Anne Hudgens, Monique Coleman & Olesya Rulin are all 18 or older.
But, I couldn't find a birthdate for Tanya Michelle on imdb.com, so careful with your thoughts about her!
Chris
But, I couldn't find a birthdate for Tanya Michelle on imdb.com, so careful with your thoughts about her!
Chris
08-22-07 | 03:44 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
She's 22, so got for it.
But it brings up something that really bothers me. With regards to Hayden Panettiere (Heroes), who turned 18 yesterday. Why was it not okay to say she was hot on the 20th, when she was 17? But it was 100% okay to start having dirty thoughts about her when she was 18?
Why can't most men admit that they are attracted to someone who is 16 or 17 years old, especially when they look and act so much like an adult?
Was Hayden not 'hot' on the 20th and suddenly became 'hot' on the 21st?
Come one, let's be honest here.
But it brings up something that really bothers me. With regards to Hayden Panettiere (Heroes), who turned 18 yesterday. Why was it not okay to say she was hot on the 20th, when she was 17? But it was 100% okay to start having dirty thoughts about her when she was 18?
Why can't most men admit that they are attracted to someone who is 16 or 17 years old, especially when they look and act so much like an adult?
Was Hayden not 'hot' on the 20th and suddenly became 'hot' on the 21st?
Come one, let's be honest here.
I'm sorry, but if I'm out and I see a female I find attractive... I just notice. I don't stop to analyze the situation and make a conscious decision to be attracted to them. Maybe you feel guilty or dirty about it later on, but that doesn't mean your brain didn't make that instinctual "Well hello there".
08-23-07 | 08:23 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by Seantn
Why nateman, do you watch the Disney Channel every day and it would hurt your viewing pleasure of Disney if they made a series?
Sheesh, it's a kids movie, and it'd be a kids show. It's not like it'd hurt you at all.
Sheesh, it's a kids movie, and it'd be a kids show. It's not like it'd hurt you at all.
I do agree with milo bloom though. I mean for fu*k sake, American Idol is the #1 show & it’s nothing but a brainless, idiot fest. Maybe if they stopped producing so much sh*t & more high quality stuff like Dexter, Scrubs, Six Feet Under & even Lost, etc.. They’re wouldn’t be so many idiots walking down the street. I really hope that primetime TV doesn't turn into %100 reality shows.
People can make fun of me for liking Scrubs all they want but at least I’m not watching High School Musical 2.
08-23-07 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nateman241
Alright, I was just making a ‘snippy’/’smart-ass’ comment, I didn’t know it would piss someone off that much.
I do agree with milo bloom though. I mean for fu*k sake, American Idol is the #1 show & it’s nothing but a brainless, idiot fest. Maybe if they stopped producing so much sh*t & more high quality stuff like Dexter, Scrubs, Six Feet Under & even Lost, etc.. They’re wouldn’t be so many idiots walking down the street. I really hope that primetime TV doesn't turn into %100 reality shows.
People can make fun of me for liking Scrubs all they want but at least I’m not watching High School Musical 2.
I do agree with milo bloom though. I mean for fu*k sake, American Idol is the #1 show & it’s nothing but a brainless, idiot fest. Maybe if they stopped producing so much sh*t & more high quality stuff like Dexter, Scrubs, Six Feet Under & even Lost, etc.. They’re wouldn’t be so many idiots walking down the street. I really hope that primetime TV doesn't turn into %100 reality shows.
People can make fun of me for liking Scrubs all they want but at least I’m not watching High School Musical 2.
08-23-07 | 02:31 PM
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Alright, I was just making a ‘snippy’/’smart-ass’ comment, I didn’t know it would piss someone off that much.
08-24-07 | 04:54 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
She's 22, so got for it.
But it brings up something that really bothers me. With regards to Hayden Panettiere (Heroes), who turned 18 yesterday. Why was it not okay to say she was hot on the 20th, when she was 17? But it was 100% okay to start having dirty thoughts about her when she was 18?
Why can't most men admit that they are attracted to someone who is 16 or 17 years old, especially when they look and act so much like an adult? Young women grow up so much faster today and look a lot older than the young women of 20 or 30 years ago. Society is forcing them to grow up faster than they should and then society says that we cannot say they are 'hot', when in fact they are.
Was Hayden not 'hot' on the 20th and suddenly became 'hot' on the 21st?
Come one, let's be honest here.
Chris
But it brings up something that really bothers me. With regards to Hayden Panettiere (Heroes), who turned 18 yesterday. Why was it not okay to say she was hot on the 20th, when she was 17? But it was 100% okay to start having dirty thoughts about her when she was 18?
Why can't most men admit that they are attracted to someone who is 16 or 17 years old, especially when they look and act so much like an adult? Young women grow up so much faster today and look a lot older than the young women of 20 or 30 years ago. Society is forcing them to grow up faster than they should and then society says that we cannot say they are 'hot', when in fact they are.
Was Hayden not 'hot' on the 20th and suddenly became 'hot' on the 21st?
Come one, let's be honest here.
Chris
Yes, kids are maturing physically faster than they used to. Yes, societal pressures are pushing them to dress and act in a more mature manner at an earlier age. And, yes, they are being forced to deal with more adult issues before they've reached adulthood.
However, they are not mentally and emotionally maturing any faster than they used to. In fact, the majority of research (psychological, sociological, and medical) indicates that the mental and emotional maturing process has actually slowed down to the point that people are starting to mature out of their adolescent stage as late as their mid-to-late twenties (specialists have even added a third stage of adolescence to their classifications, as a result).
The problem that this causes is when adults see outer signs (physical and behavioral) of "adulthood" in teenagers and start treating them like adults before they are mentally and emotionally ready to handle it. Depending on what's involved in the specific situation, this can actually have some pretty powerful negative impacts on their development, including severe long-term emotional issues.
So, no . . . there is nothing inherently wrong with physical attraction to a physically appealing attributes. However, there is a lot of potential danger attached to anything past that when the person in question is not mature enough to handle it.
