Bear Grylls (Man vs Wild) is a fraud
#28
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I watch them both, though I prefer Les Stroud's program. Bear did a miniseries where he and a group of randoms went through a lite version of French Foreign Legion boot camp that was pretty cool.
#31
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Yeah true survivalist? Knowing that you are going to get picked up 7 days from today? Oh that Satelitte phone with a instant pickup in case of trouble, thats not so bad either.
#32
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Originally Posted by matta
So, to really be a survivalist, you have to have a > 50% chance of dying?
#33
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The DVD relelase of season 1 has been taken out of circulation. amazon has a new release going on sale in September, and I'm guessing this new release will be edited with disclaimers.
Even though it's staged, I like the episodes as they are. I've watched all of the epsides multiple times. I don't want them altered.
Even though it's staged, I like the episodes as they are. I've watched all of the epsides multiple times. I don't want them altered.
#34
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Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson
Seriously, I think a lot of people want to bring Bear down because what he does makes most of us seem like adventureless lemmings. If he can be made to seem less authentic, people won't feel so bad about their own wasted lives. If the show is entertaining, how the hell is it fraud? Here's a partial list of what I've seen him do that I'd never consider doing myself:
1.) Drinking water from elephant shit
2.) Eating bugs, maggots, snakes, raw fish, etc.
3.) Intentionally jumping into a frozen pond
4.) Free climbing rock formations that would make Spiderman wet his pants
5.) Skinning a rotten deer carcass and using the fur as a blanket
Any man who can do those things, not to mention climbing Everest AFTER breaking his back, is no pussy even if he sleeps at a hotel occasionally.
1.) Drinking water from elephant shit
2.) Eating bugs, maggots, snakes, raw fish, etc.
3.) Intentionally jumping into a frozen pond
4.) Free climbing rock formations that would make Spiderman wet his pants
5.) Skinning a rotten deer carcass and using the fur as a blanket
Any man who can do those things, not to mention climbing Everest AFTER breaking his back, is no pussy even if he sleeps at a hotel occasionally.
I agree, I still like the show, he still does some crazy stuff. still sucks that he stayed in hotels, but then again this is a tv show just showing you what to do if you were stranded. Still a good show
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PROFILE. Two weeks ago, Bear Grylls, host of the Discovery Channel’s “Man vs. Wild,” grappeled down a wall at the Beverly Hilton in Beverly Hills, Calif., before running into a ballroom for a Q&A session with a group of television critics. While Grylls talked about his incredible feats of endurance on the popular television series, few knew just how comfortable he was navigating hotels.
Though the premise of “Man vs. Wild” is to drop Grylls, who served in the British Army special
forces, into untamed locales with few tools and the expectation that he can find his way out, news has spread that the survivalist isn’t quite roughing it as the show would have
viewers believe.
British television’s Channel 4, which carries the program under the title “Born Survivor: Bear Grylls,” has confirmed the survivalist bunked in a motel on at least two occasions when the series suggested the host had actually spent the night in the wild. Stunts in question include Grylls’ building of a raft, which was allegedly pre-assembled, and the wrangling of wild horses, which the charge maintains were brought in from a trekking station.
“Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the ‘Man vs. Wild’ show in some episodes were not natural to the environment, and that for health and safety concerns the crew and host received some survival assistance while in the field,” the network stated.
Discovery plans to tweak new episodes with a greater “transparency” and add a disclaimer to episodes airing in repeat.
Back in Beverly Hills earlier this month, Grylls did admit that a sizable crew of production staff and local experts are typically set up in a base camp “maybe two minutes by chopper” from where he films.
“Often at nighttime [the cameramen] will get helicoptered out,” the affable, and even quite humble, Grylls said. He went on to explain that his trips are premeditated, and that he receives a detailed briefing on the area before filming begins.
“If you were purely doing textbook survival, where you land, you sit tight,” Grylls said. “You wouldn’t move. That’s really what you want to do, but it makes for quite boring TV.”
Instead, Grylls prepares a “mental sketch map” of his journey and works within his own abilities, skills of which no one can doubt, even if he does get the occasional hot shower and warm bed while the cameras are off. In 1998, at the age of 23, Grylls became the youngest British climber to complete a summit ascent of Mt. Everest — and that was after he broke his back parachuting over Southern Africa.
“I always think there are two ways to live your life: You either live it with a big smile or you are a miserable bastard,” Grylls said of his always-chipper attitude in even the most (at least seemingly) dire circumstances. We imagine the challenge of surviving bad press falls somewhere between squeezing water from elephant dung and avoiding frostbite in arctic Iceland — and he’s already done the latter two.
Though the premise of “Man vs. Wild” is to drop Grylls, who served in the British Army special
forces, into untamed locales with few tools and the expectation that he can find his way out, news has spread that the survivalist isn’t quite roughing it as the show would have
viewers believe.
British television’s Channel 4, which carries the program under the title “Born Survivor: Bear Grylls,” has confirmed the survivalist bunked in a motel on at least two occasions when the series suggested the host had actually spent the night in the wild. Stunts in question include Grylls’ building of a raft, which was allegedly pre-assembled, and the wrangling of wild horses, which the charge maintains were brought in from a trekking station.
“Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the ‘Man vs. Wild’ show in some episodes were not natural to the environment, and that for health and safety concerns the crew and host received some survival assistance while in the field,” the network stated.
Discovery plans to tweak new episodes with a greater “transparency” and add a disclaimer to episodes airing in repeat.
Back in Beverly Hills earlier this month, Grylls did admit that a sizable crew of production staff and local experts are typically set up in a base camp “maybe two minutes by chopper” from where he films.
“Often at nighttime [the cameramen] will get helicoptered out,” the affable, and even quite humble, Grylls said. He went on to explain that his trips are premeditated, and that he receives a detailed briefing on the area before filming begins.
“If you were purely doing textbook survival, where you land, you sit tight,” Grylls said. “You wouldn’t move. That’s really what you want to do, but it makes for quite boring TV.”
Instead, Grylls prepares a “mental sketch map” of his journey and works within his own abilities, skills of which no one can doubt, even if he does get the occasional hot shower and warm bed while the cameras are off. In 1998, at the age of 23, Grylls became the youngest British climber to complete a summit ascent of Mt. Everest — and that was after he broke his back parachuting over Southern Africa.
“I always think there are two ways to live your life: You either live it with a big smile or you are a miserable bastard,” Grylls said of his always-chipper attitude in even the most (at least seemingly) dire circumstances. We imagine the challenge of surviving bad press falls somewhere between squeezing water from elephant dung and avoiding frostbite in arctic Iceland — and he’s already done the latter two.
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LOL, this is the best line:
“I always think there are two ways to live your life: You either live it with a big smile or you are a miserable bastard,” Grylls said...
guess who's happy and who's whining on dvdtalk.
“I always think there are two ways to live your life: You either live it with a big smile or you are a miserable bastard,” Grylls said...
guess who's happy and who's whining on dvdtalk.
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When is this show going to re-air? Weren't they just in the middle of airing season 2? I realized last night when watching Mythbusters that the new season of Survivorman is taking it's Friday 9PM time slot.
#39
I never for one second thought that he was out there on his own every night and doing every thing himself. However, when compared to Survivorman he is a damn sight more entertaining. Les Stroud of whatever his name is, does such a bad job on that show. He always takes forever to get a fire going and his skills at building or hunting are useless. He also just continually whines about having to lug the cameras around. Well ask the people to give you more compact cameras you idiot. At least Man vs Wild is entertaining and it tries to offer some suggestions of what you can do. Survivorman is like watching your parents trying to figure out a digital camera for the first time. Boring as hell and you know that given half the chance you could do just as well. And Bear really must have a solid stomach to get through some of the things he eats on the show. No getting around him doing those things.
#40
Originally Posted by Mok
I think Survivorman is behind all this bad PR for Bear. I smell a war brewing.
At the end of the day, if Bear was in the SAS then i know for a fact that he is one tough bastard. I have a mate in the SAS and its not for whimps.
#41
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So basically his show is just a version of Fear Factor... Hey look at the gross shit I can eat. Look at me climb needlessly down this cliff instead of walk five minutes out of my way. I think it is dishonest to an extent to portray his show the way he does and then have others building his shelters and staying in hotels and god knows what.
I guess we all watch these shows for different reasons some for the entertainment value, some for the informative aspect, some for a little of both. I guess watch whichever show scratches your itch, or watch both.
Personally for me, I would rather watch Les Stroud out there actually showing skills that are needed to survive than some "Little Lord Fauntleroy" out playing adventure with his pals.
I just read his Wikipedia and it said he served part time in the SAS. WTF is that? Part-time?
I guess we all watch these shows for different reasons some for the entertainment value, some for the informative aspect, some for a little of both. I guess watch whichever show scratches your itch, or watch both.
Personally for me, I would rather watch Les Stroud out there actually showing skills that are needed to survive than some "Little Lord Fauntleroy" out playing adventure with his pals.

I just read his Wikipedia and it said he served part time in the SAS. WTF is that? Part-time?
#43
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Originally Posted by redrum
How the hell did Discovery let this fly? At least it's minimized any damage by yanking the show off their TV schedule.
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Someones post on a UK site about Bear. 
I was once surprised by a wild teddy bear in Epping Forest. Had I seen this film of how Grylls managed to evade a pantomime bear I would have been far better equipped to deal with an alarming encounter. People may mock but it is a dangerous world out there. A friend of mine was chased down Purley High Street by a pantomime horse and only managed to escape by building a raft similar to the one Grylls made, navigating his way across the duck pond and fleeing through Sainsburys car park. A most alarming experience and not one to be taken lightly.
- Simon, Chatham

I was once surprised by a wild teddy bear in Epping Forest. Had I seen this film of how Grylls managed to evade a pantomime bear I would have been far better equipped to deal with an alarming encounter. People may mock but it is a dangerous world out there. A friend of mine was chased down Purley High Street by a pantomime horse and only managed to escape by building a raft similar to the one Grylls made, navigating his way across the duck pond and fleeing through Sainsburys car park. A most alarming experience and not one to be taken lightly.
- Simon, Chatham




