Big Brother Season 8 Discussion
#1228
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Don't worry about it, K
#1229
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Originally Posted by PacMan2006
Say what you will about Dick, but he makes the show compelling to watch, IMO. Not because of just the arguements, but he's just a guy who stands out to me. He has spice, he seems somewhat complex (no person can be an a-hole like him without some deep reasons), and yet he's also blunt but honest and to the point.
He may be some of those things but honest? He lies just like everyone else. Didn't he pretend to be fighting with Jen (again) to show nothing had changed in the nominations when he knew Eric was the target of being backdoored? Was he honest with Nick about not voting for him? The problem with Dick is he doesn't know how to shut his f'ing mouth. Learn to play the game. Don't tick everyone off. They will show you the f'ing door soon enough. He thinks he knows how to play this game but has he ever watched past seasons? Even his daughter plays the game better.
I don't know where Eric got the idea to be able to say Dick boned his daughter. Maybe he's heard something we haven't beyond the remark Dick made about doing a blond chick. I don't watch more than what they air on television. Amber doesn't think it's far-fetched either. Personally, I don't really care. Maybe it's strategy.
#1231
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Originally Posted by Timber
Nick knew everybody was voting him out. Danielle, Dick and I think Amber all talked to him about it so there was no lie there.
Maybe that's true. But here's another example how he lies. He led Jen to believe everything is ok with her when he's only using her. Dick admitted as much. Point is he's a liar like everyone else on the show.
Last edited by big whoppa; 08-11-07 at 09:29 AM.
#1232
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Can we just admit that you cant win this game without lying, and that the lying is part of the game? I dont think you can get through this game without lying, so I dont get what the big deal is when someone in the house lies. I've watched this for 8 years now, and I cant remember it all, but has there ever been 1 person to go through this game without lying?
#1233
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Amber was not upfront with Nick when he has her if he was going home that week, she just cried in his lap (all the while having already agreed with Dustin that Nick needed to go home). It was only in Amber's goodbye message to Nick outside the house that Nick found out that Amber wasn't honest with him when he asked her if he was going home that week.
#1234
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Originally Posted by magiccmom
Can we just admit that you cant win this game without lying, and that the lying is part of the game? I dont think you can get through this game without lying, so I dont get what the big deal is when someone in the house lies. I've watched this for 8 years now, and I cant remember it all, but has there ever been 1 person to go through this game without lying?
#1235
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Originally Posted by magiccmom
Can we just admit that you cant win this game without lying, and that the lying is part of the game? I dont think you can get through this game without lying, so I dont get what the big deal is when someone in the house lies. I've watched this for 8 years now, and I cant remember it all, but has there ever been 1 person to go through this game without lying?
#1236
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Originally Posted by Patman
Jason from season 3 did a decent job with minimal lying.
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#1238
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Originally Posted by VHS?
WOW!
Seems Eric is really pissing America off.
He calls Zack a child molester and the twice says Dick is fucking his daughter.
Read here <--- may contain spoilers!
I think CBS better do something about this guy before he gets himself and CBS into some real deep shit.
Seems Eric is really pissing America off.
He calls Zack a child molester and the twice says Dick is fucking his daughter.
Read here <--- may contain spoilers!
I think CBS better do something about this guy before he gets himself and CBS into some real deep shit.
#1240
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Where is the damning evidence to show BB producers have tampered with the game by trying to keep Erik in the house? I only saw that youtube clip of Amber and Jameka talking. I couldn't make out what she was saying other than mentioning one of the big wigs on the show by name.
#1241
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Originally Posted by big whoppa
Where is the damning evidence to show BB producers have tampered with the game by trying to keep Erik in the house? I only saw that youtube clip of Amber and Jameka talking. I couldn't make out what she was saying other than mentioning one of the big wigs on the show by name.
E1) Several people seemed determined to vote out Eric, they were individually called into the diary room, and when they left, they had completely changed their decision, to the point of trying to convice others to not vote our Eric.
E2) Jameka and Amber started discussing what happened in the diary room and Amber mentioned that a "big wig" wanted Eric to stay, they were broken up by the announcer telling them to not talk about what happens in the diary room with other houseguests.
E3) Kail was notably upset at being in the house, and would very likely not want to be in the sequester house with Dick.
E4) Eric, as America's Player, is a person that the producers would presumably want to have remain in the game.
Based on these points, the following accusations were made:
A1) That Kail had asked to be eliminated from the game, but was told that if she stayed, she would be voted out this week.
A2) That the producers asked very pointed questions in the diary room to make houseguests question their opinion to vote out Eric and/or to make them think that the producers wanted Eric to stay.
A3) Producers rigged the America's Choice vote in recent weeks to help out Eric.
Did I miss any evidence or accusations?
#1244
Originally Posted by big whoppa
No argument there. People who try to be honest and have integrity eventually learn they have to lie or get the boot. It's all a game though I admire when they try such as Keysar and in the end, Mike. But to single Dick for being honest? He's not a poster child for honesty.
Now, that doesn't discredit him for being an awful player. He's blunt and honest and flat out an A-hole, but the biggest problem of all is that he doesnt know when to turn off all those traits about himself. He can't. He is who he is, and he chooses not to adapt to how one should play the game. That is, hands down, his downfall.
How he thinks he could bully, yell, and intimidate people all the way to victory is beyond me.
#1249
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Originally Posted by matta
From what I understand, the accusations are made on the following circumstantial evidence:
Thanks. I think you said it best because it does seem circumstantial. I would need better proof to feel the producers are tampering with the results. Honestly, I think Erik has it rough being AP and having to follow choices that he may not personally agree with and which has gotten him in trouble for. But do I feel they should do anything out of the ordinary to save his ass? Nah.
#1250
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Originally Posted by PacMan2006
Who said he was a poster child for honesty? My post was that Dick says what is on his mind. He's blunt, and he's honest. That's not to say he hasn't said a lie in the game--I don't watch the feeds 24/7, so I have no clue. But he's upfront and says what he's thinking. To me, that's being honest.
There's just been so much here about him being honest. Just look above. Honest(y) is used 3 times in reference to the guy. I'm just not getting how you can say he's honest and then say he's lied the next. My examples of his deceit weren't exclusive to the live feeds. I don't watch them myself.



