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Old 08-10-07 | 11:56 PM
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WOW!
Seems Eric is really pissing America off.
He calls Zack a child molester and the twice says Dick is fucking his daughter.
Read here <--- may contain spoilers!
I think CBS better do something about this guy before he gets himself and CBS into some real deep shit.
Old 08-11-07 | 12:32 AM
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VHS? are you involved with Dick? The record seems broken here.
Old 08-11-07 | 12:47 AM
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Don't worry about it, K
Old 08-11-07 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PacMan2006
Say what you will about Dick, but he makes the show compelling to watch, IMO. Not because of just the arguements, but he's just a guy who stands out to me. He has spice, he seems somewhat complex (no person can be an a-hole like him without some deep reasons), and yet he's also blunt but honest and to the point.

He may be some of those things but honest? He lies just like everyone else. Didn't he pretend to be fighting with Jen (again) to show nothing had changed in the nominations when he knew Eric was the target of being backdoored? Was he honest with Nick about not voting for him? The problem with Dick is he doesn't know how to shut his f'ing mouth. Learn to play the game. Don't tick everyone off. They will show you the f'ing door soon enough. He thinks he knows how to play this game but has he ever watched past seasons? Even his daughter plays the game better.

I don't know where Eric got the idea to be able to say Dick boned his daughter. Maybe he's heard something we haven't beyond the remark Dick made about doing a blond chick. I don't watch more than what they air on television. Amber doesn't think it's far-fetched either. Personally, I don't really care. Maybe it's strategy.
Old 08-11-07 | 08:56 AM
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Nick knew everybody was voting him out. Danielle, Dick and I think Amber all talked to him about it so there was no lie there.
Old 08-11-07 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Timber
Nick knew everybody was voting him out. Danielle, Dick and I think Amber all talked to him about it so there was no lie there.

Maybe that's true. But here's another example how he lies. He led Jen to believe everything is ok with her when he's only using her. Dick admitted as much. Point is he's a liar like everyone else on the show.

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Old 08-11-07 | 09:39 AM
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Can we just admit that you cant win this game without lying, and that the lying is part of the game? I dont think you can get through this game without lying, so I dont get what the big deal is when someone in the house lies. I've watched this for 8 years now, and I cant remember it all, but has there ever been 1 person to go through this game without lying?
Old 08-11-07 | 09:41 AM
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Amber was not upfront with Nick when he has her if he was going home that week, she just cried in his lap (all the while having already agreed with Dustin that Nick needed to go home). It was only in Amber's goodbye message to Nick outside the house that Nick found out that Amber wasn't honest with him when he asked her if he was going home that week.
Old 08-11-07 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by magiccmom
Can we just admit that you cant win this game without lying, and that the lying is part of the game? I dont think you can get through this game without lying, so I dont get what the big deal is when someone in the house lies. I've watched this for 8 years now, and I cant remember it all, but has there ever been 1 person to go through this game without lying?
Jason from season 3 did a decent job with minimal lying.
Old 08-11-07 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by magiccmom
Can we just admit that you cant win this game without lying, and that the lying is part of the game? I dont think you can get through this game without lying, so I dont get what the big deal is when someone in the house lies. I've watched this for 8 years now, and I cant remember it all, but has there ever been 1 person to go through this game without lying?
No argument there. People who try to be honest and have integrity eventually learn they have to lie or get the boot. It's all a game though I admire when they try such as Keysar and in the end, Mike. But to single Dick for being honest? He's not a poster child for honesty.
Old 08-11-07 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
Jason from season 3 did a decent job with minimal lying.
While it was largely Danielle there was that whopper they pulled on Marcellas at the end of the year.

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Reading this morning activities...wow! Dick is just a repugnant human being (and to think I sort of liked him the beginning...he has his charms, but eh...). Trying to make himself so bad that they evict him instead of Danielle is a strategy though. The girls are thinking about getting rid of her instead (which if they could stand Dick for another week is the right move). Eric's not playing for veto again.
Old 08-11-07 | 02:47 PM
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Reading this morning activities...wow! Dick is just a repugnant human being (and to think I sort of liked him the beginning...he has his charms, but eh...). Trying to make himself so bad that they evict him instead of Danielle is a strategy though. The girls are thinking about getting rid of her instead (which if they could stand Dick for another week is the right move). Eric's not playing for veto again.
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The problem with keeping Dick is that if he, Jen, or Zach win HoH, then the others will have to deal with him for 2 weeks instead of just one. Then there's the potential for one of those three to win the following week, and now you're looking at an additional month with Dick in the house. So it's not necessarily one of those "just one more week" things. Plus, as soon as Daniele is gone, he'll be 10 times worse. Strategically, getting rid of Daniele is almost equvialent to getting rid of Dick (though Daniele is stronger with Zach than Dick), so why not just get rid of Dick now?
Old 08-11-07 | 02:49 PM
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WOW!
Seems Eric is really pissing America off.
He calls Zack a child molester and the twice says Dick is fucking his daughter.
Read here <--- may contain spoilers!
I think CBS better do something about this guy before he gets himself and CBS into some real deep shit.
I believe all of those comments have also been made in here (plus several others about Dick abusing women, etc), as well. Why is it such a terrible viscious thing in the house but not on this message board?
Old 08-11-07 | 03:07 PM
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The problem with keeping Dick is that if he, Jen, or Zach win HoH, then the others will have to deal with him for 2 weeks instead of just one. Then there's the potential for one of those three to win the following week, and now you're looking at an additional month with Dick in the house. So it's not necessarily one of those "just one more week" things. Plus, as soon as Daniele is gone, he'll be 10 times worse. Strategically, getting rid of Daniele is almost equvialent to getting rid of Dick (though Daniele is stronger with Zach than Dick), so why not just get rid of Dick now?
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You'e right that Zach probably wouldn't put up Dick, but Jen still might (and she wouldn't put up Danielle). There is a greater chance that Danielle would win HOH than there is with Dick. If Danielle leaves he'll probably really be coming apart at the seams. And, honestly, short of physical contact (which he'd get expelled for) he really can't get that much worse than he was this morning. There is a better chance that Danielle can disappear in the game (like Jen has this week) after Dick leaves. Dick will never be able to disappear. It really just comes down to their tolerance level. Plus, if the noms stay the same, this might be the first week Eric (America) really gets to influence who goes home.
Old 08-11-07 | 05:14 PM
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Where is the damning evidence to show BB producers have tampered with the game by trying to keep Erik in the house? I only saw that youtube clip of Amber and Jameka talking. I couldn't make out what she was saying other than mentioning one of the big wigs on the show by name.
Old 08-11-07 | 05:26 PM
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Where is the damning evidence to show BB producers have tampered with the game by trying to keep Erik in the house? I only saw that youtube clip of Amber and Jameka talking. I couldn't make out what she was saying other than mentioning one of the big wigs on the show by name.
From what I understand, the accusations are made on the following circumstantial evidence:

E1) Several people seemed determined to vote out Eric, they were individually called into the diary room, and when they left, they had completely changed their decision, to the point of trying to convice others to not vote our Eric.

E2) Jameka and Amber started discussing what happened in the diary room and Amber mentioned that a "big wig" wanted Eric to stay, they were broken up by the announcer telling them to not talk about what happens in the diary room with other houseguests.

E3) Kail was notably upset at being in the house, and would very likely not want to be in the sequester house with Dick.

E4) Eric, as America's Player, is a person that the producers would presumably want to have remain in the game.

Based on these points, the following accusations were made:

A1) That Kail had asked to be eliminated from the game, but was told that if she stayed, she would be voted out this week.

A2) That the producers asked very pointed questions in the diary room to make houseguests question their opinion to vote out Eric and/or to make them think that the producers wanted Eric to stay.

A3) Producers rigged the America's Choice vote in recent weeks to help out Eric.


Did I miss any evidence or accusations?
Old 08-11-07 | 07:54 PM
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Looks like Dick won POV so unless something changes Danielle should be staying
Old 08-11-07 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mwbmis
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Looks like Dick won POV so unless something changes Danielle should be staying

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Maybe Dustin will get put up so he can give his big speech. Funny thing is that Eric was supposed to give a big speech last week and chickened out and didn't say a damned thing.
Old 08-11-07 | 08:05 PM
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No argument there. People who try to be honest and have integrity eventually learn they have to lie or get the boot. It's all a game though I admire when they try such as Keysar and in the end, Mike. But to single Dick for being honest? He's not a poster child for honesty.
Who said he was a poster child for honesty? My post was that Dick says what is on his mind. He's blunt, and he's honest. That's not to say he hasn't said a lie in the game--I don't watch the feeds 24/7, so I have no clue. But he's upfront and says what he's thinking. To me, that's being honest.

Now, that doesn't discredit him for being an awful player. He's blunt and honest and flat out an A-hole, but the biggest problem of all is that he doesnt know when to turn off all those traits about himself. He can't. He is who he is, and he chooses not to adapt to how one should play the game. That is, hands down, his downfall.

How he thinks he could bully, yell, and intimidate people all the way to victory is beyond me.
Old 08-11-07 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Timber
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Maybe Dustin will get put up so he can give his big speech. Funny thing is that Eric was supposed to give a big speech last week and chickened out and didn't say a damned thing.
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Not giving the big speeches and getting all confrontational probably helped save Eric. If Dustin gets nominated then he can give all the big speeches he wants. Then he can talk to Julie Chen on Thursday because America will evict him (assuming Jen, Zach, & Danielle vote to save Dick). It would be 4-2. It would be hard to imagine he would be that arrogant to want to go on the block and risk the tie vote (and why would Jess want to cast the evict vote live on TV...I don't think she wants that spotlight on her). But then again, he is pretty arrogant.
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Not giving the big speeches and getting all confrontational probably helped save Eric. If Dustin gets nominated then he can give all the big speeches he wants. Then he can talk to Julie Chen on Thursday because America will evict him (assuming Jen, Zach, & Danielle vote to save Dick). It would be 4-2. It would be hard to imagine he would be that arrogant to want to go on the block and risk the tie vote (and why would Jess want to cast the evict vote live on TV...I don't think she wants that spotlight on her). But then again, he is pretty arrogant.
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What did I miss that suggests Jessica would want to evict Dustin? I know he's been pretty manipulative and speaks down to people, but the last I saw, he's on her "side". I would expect Jessica to put up one of the other "opposing" team: either Zach or Jen.
Old 08-11-07 | 08:26 PM
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What did I miss that suggests Jessica would want to evict Dustin? I know he's been pretty manipulative and speaks down to people, but the last I saw, he's on her "side". I would expect Jessica to put up one of the other "opposing" team: either Zach or Jen.
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She wouldn't want to evict Dustin. Dustin has been mouthing off since Jess won HOH that if one of them came off then "put him up" so he can give a big speech at the veto ceremony about Dick being evicted 6-0 (he wouldn't be...I think the best Dustin could hope for would be 4-2 in his favor). Of course, Dustin uses more profanity. It also helps that apparently Dustin was America's Choice this week so Eric has been bringing it up too. Basically, Dustin is a giant tool, and if he pushes his nomination then he going to be pushing himself out of the house.
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What did I miss that suggests Jessica would want to evict Dustin? I know he's been pretty manipulative and speaks down to people, but the last I saw, he's on her "side". I would expect Jessica to put up one of the other "opposing" team: either Zach or Jen.

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Dustin supposedly wants to give a big F-you to Dick by being on the block next to him. I can't remember the details of what he wants to say but it's something along the lines of everybody loves me and hates you. In the end I'm sure he won't do it, he's not that stupid or ballsy.
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From what I understand, the accusations are made on the following circumstantial evidence:

Thanks. I think you said it best because it does seem circumstantial. I would need better proof to feel the producers are tampering with the results. Honestly, I think Erik has it rough being AP and having to follow choices that he may not personally agree with and which has gotten him in trouble for. But do I feel they should do anything out of the ordinary to save his ass? Nah.
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Who said he was a poster child for honesty? My post was that Dick says what is on his mind. He's blunt, and he's honest. That's not to say he hasn't said a lie in the game--I don't watch the feeds 24/7, so I have no clue. But he's upfront and says what he's thinking. To me, that's being honest.

There's just been so much here about him being honest. Just look above. Honest(y) is used 3 times in reference to the guy. I'm just not getting how you can say he's honest and then say he's lied the next. My examples of his deceit weren't exclusive to the live feeds. I don't watch them myself.

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