I find it funny how the mass genocide in this episode gets looked over, but the possible harm to a bunny is crossing the line.

Didn't Juliet say that women on the island died during their second trimester (i.e., 4 or 5 months of pregnancy)?

I sure hope Locke's carpet matches his drapes.

I think the Jacob scene had to be this way so that Locke wasn't sure if Ben was just messing with him or Jacob really was invisible.

There must be another reference to the four-toed statue before this season is finished. Another vote for alternate realities. Maybe Jacob only has four toes...

Wonder how Jacob summoned Ben before? Telepathy? Why would Jacob need Locke's help? Something that Ben couldn't provide but John could?

Why was Ben's Mom hiking in her 7th month of pregnancy? Where did Ben spend the first 10 years of his life if not on the island? It looked like the people who stopped to help gave each other an odd glance like they worked with Dharma/Mittelos. At the very least, they kept watch on them until Ben was 10 (or so).

Hope we find out about Ben's girl friend on the island. She would be 40-ish too. I can't imagine Ben not telling her to put on a gas mask at 4:00, knowing she would die in the purge.

I thought it was pretty well established that Alex HATES Ben. She probably wants to encourage people to kill him (like the guy who just killed his own father), and in the alternative, she knows her dad is a cold blooded snake.

Remember Mr. Eko? ABC didn't save him.

Oh...if they said it, it must be true.

Are you interested in buying a bridge?

12th Monkey,

are you implying that Jesus threw a shitfit because Locke blasted him with a flashlight. Not that the picture doesn't closely resemble Him (or Locke w/ hair, or Hanso, or Jack's dad) but it doesn't really make sense.

Thoughts:

Jacob is made invisible by the same things that makes the island invisible. This could either be through technology or something else (mind powers...)

Ben didn't intend to kill Locke. He may have purposely shot him so that he'd survive. Maybe the whole thing was for show.

Dharma doesn't know that the hostiles have taken over. Unlikely, but possible.

There had to be government involvement or at least a substantially rich person behind Dharma. My guess is that the hostiles are equally well connected.

They were in Portland hiking. Portland is also where they told Juliet she would be working and I believe it's where she met them before being taken to the island.

The people who found Ben and Roger were from Dharma. They mention in the show "he's the one that found us the day your mom died."

That's not a terrible conclusion given the single center mass shot instead of the more popular double tap to the head that Ben was in good position to execute. It could be that Ben is just sloppy when it comes to gun violence, I guess. That doesn't really seem in character for him, though.

Though to be fair Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje didn't want to be on the show any more, so they accommodated his wishes. Who knows if Eko would still be on otherwise.

I've not heard of Terry O'Quinn wanting off the show.

I agree. Not sure how else they could have done it. It made me think.. "So wait... Ben is nuts?"

Is Ben's dad the one that Hurly found in the car with all the beer a few episodes back?

I actually thought I heard TO'Q wasn't particularly happy.

I don't think ABC would just happily let an actor walk if they thought it meant their ratings. In a way, I think you could argue that it did mean their ratings, too. The Eko death seemed to me to be what really ticked off a lot of the folks who are no longer watching, if we can judge that by the folks I know.

Yes.

I remember him saying he was unhappy during S2 because his character was stuck in the hatch with a button instead of roaming the jungle. Haven't heard anything since though.

He didn't like Locke being stuck in the hatch, obsessed by the button, but Terry has said in recent interviews how he loves the direction Locke is taking at the moment. "The crazier Locke gets, the happier I am."

Just going back to the Jacob thing for a moment, I think the purpose of that close up shot of his eye is to discount that Jacob is either Ben or Locke, because both their eye colours are light, and Jacob's was distinctly dark brown.

If he knew he was a goner and was previously disgruntled, wouldn't he love the direction? I really hope this isn't the case, but I'm just sayin'.

Adewale wanted off the show. Unless Terry wants off the show as well, he will probably stay till the end of the series. With the new 3-year deal announced for the show's creative team and cast, anyone leaving the show between now and the end game should theoretically only be at Damon and Carlton's accord.

Looks like Layne Staley from Alice in Chains.


What about a Final Destination type theory for whats going on? Maybe somebody is seeing this all happening before it does.

I hope so.

I thought the eye shot was Ben?

And about whether the Others have anything to do with Dharma....remember back to last season, when Jack and Sawyer went to get Michael or somebody, and Tom (Mr. Friendly at the time) confronted them while holding Kate with a bag over her head? Tom said something along the lines of, "A great man once said...blah blah blah..." - that was a quote from Alvar Hanso from the Hanso Foundation website. So if the Others were all anti-Dharma/Hanso, he wouldn't be quoting the man himself, would he?

Well, yeah, that was bad too

And there is another great point tha adds confusion to this whole thing after the "purge". We assumed that Ben was the only Dharma person to have survived but yet Tom is quoting someone who is responsible for Dharma. If the "hostiles" wanted Dharma out then they sure wouldn't be holding them in high accord and quoting them after they are gone.

I would think Mr. Paik and Mr. Widmore would qualify.