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Old 05-02-07 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Morf
You realize that Nathan was killed by Sylar, and the Nathan we saw in the future was, in fact, Sylar?
I believe that at the time of the explosion, Nathan hadn't yet been killed by Sylar.
Old 05-02-07 | 12:08 PM
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Yes I believe that is true that Sylar needs something with the brain to get their power. If the powers of persuasion girl(can't think of her name) did in fact kill her self enough by inflicting damage to her own brain. Then why does he still seem to go over to Peter to take his power. He(Peter) had a wound to the head from the glass that killed him.

Also, where did Sylar get the evil sounding voice from? I'm not understanding that at all. It almost makes me believe that he still got the power from the girl that show herself. Although, I know we've never seen him use it so that is why we are believing that he didn't get her power.

I thank you for replying though. I just wanted to get some thoughts on this.
Old 05-02-07 | 12:36 PM
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If the powers of persuasion girl(can't think of her name).
Eden
Old 05-02-07 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sesom
Yes I believe that is true that Sylar needs something with the brain to get their power. If the powers of persuasion girl(can't think of her name) did in fact kill her self enough by inflicting damage to her own brain. Then why does he still seem to go over to Peter to take his power. He(Peter) had a wound to the head from the glass that killed him.

Also, where did Sylar get the evil sounding voice from? I'm not understanding that at all. It almost makes me believe that he still got the power from the girl that show herself. Although, I know we've never seen him use it so that is why we are believing that he didn't get her power.

I thank you for replying though. I just wanted to get some thoughts on this.
1. Peter can't heal when dead.
2. Sylar must remove the top of a person's head to examine their brain.
3. The top of Peter's head was not removed when they found him.
4. Ergo, Sylar didn't gain Peter's powers.
Old 05-02-07 | 02:59 PM
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I think I'm probably confusing everyone with what I'm meaning. Yes I know that Sylar didn't get Peter's powers. What I'm wondering is this, if he couldn't get Eden's power since she was dead, why did he seem to go over to Peter and get his powers since he was dead from the glass to the head. Maybe I'm wrong and he wasn't going to do that but it just seemed like he was. It would seem that Sylar would think to himself "Hmm, he's dead, I can't still his power now. Ah man." Instead it looks like he is going over to take his power. Maybe not though.

I think I'm just retarded wondering about this I know. It just kinda bugged me. We never saw him try anymore to get the powers of Eden after she killed herself because I figured he knew "Well shoot, she killed herself, I can't still her powers now". He didn't seem to do that though with Peter and that is the point I'm trying to make.

Man I am such a nerd.....
Old 05-02-07 | 03:00 PM
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I'd like to point out that we don't know if Sylar getting Peter's powers would give him anything more than Peter's actual power as "an empath". We don't know that he'd gain all the powers Peter can emote or just Peter's ability to emote - to acquire powers without killing. Not that he would go that route anyway... Sylar's a parasite, after all.
Old 05-02-07 | 03:09 PM
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i don't think it was just that eden was dead. i think it was that she destroyed her brain. he couldn't evaluate the brain with it blown to pieces.

with peter, the damage from the glass probably wasn't as bad.
Old 05-02-07 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JayPen
Just buy it on Itunes for $1.99, or watch it on nbc.com. They have it now.

Personally, I kinda like itunes as it does not have any ads to wait through.
thanks.
Old 05-02-07 | 04:43 PM
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I see speculation about multiple timelines and all sorts of other things...but the simpler explanation is that there is just one timeline:

Peter is exploding, Hiro stabs him (thinking he is Sylar), Peter regenerates b/c he has Claire's power and explodes NYC. Hiro thinks (for whatever reason) that this was Sylar. Bennet puts Claire in hiding as a brunette and Hiro after 5 years of research and tying strings around Isaaic's apartment thinks Sylar killed Claire and stole her power. He theorizes that if his former self saves her from Sylar then Sylar won't survive Hiro's stab and NYC will be saved. There is no need for multiple timelines to explain what we have seen. It is entirely Hiro (and others) thinking Sylar was the exploding man...
Old 05-02-07 | 04:48 PM
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Great post, Nuff. Except: In this episode, Future Hiro was planning on going back in time and visiting Peter...but he died before he got the chance to do so.

So there are at least two timelines: one in which Future Hiro goes back to warn Peter, and one in which he doesn't.

There are also a couple different timelines around Google Girl. One in which she doesn't know Hiro, and one in which she does.
Old 05-02-07 | 04:53 PM
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I just watched the entire season of Heroes last week and her storyline is the only one I haven't been that interested in. I think it is partly her fault, but I also think its just her story. Also her power is pretty lame in comparison to the rest of the cast.
I don't think Jessica is her special power, just a split personality issue. What Jessica/Nikki has is super human strength and that is not a lame power. In the future, it seem like Nikki has the super human strength without switching over to Jessica.
Old 05-02-07 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sesom
I think I'm probably confusing everyone with what I'm meaning. Yes I know that Sylar didn't get Peter's powers. What I'm wondering is this, if he couldn't get Eden's power since she was dead, why did he seem to go over to Peter and get his powers since he was dead from the glass to the head. Maybe I'm wrong and he wasn't going to do that but it just seemed like he was. It would seem that Sylar would think to himself "Hmm, he's dead, I can't still his power now. Ah man." Instead it looks like he is going over to take his power. Maybe not though.

I think I'm just retarded wondering about this I know. It just kinda bugged me. We never saw him try anymore to get the powers of Eden after she killed herself because I figured he knew "Well shoot, she killed herself, I can't still her powers now". He didn't seem to do that though with Peter and that is the point I'm trying to make.

Man I am such a nerd.....
Maybe he didn't know how badly Peter was hurt & that's why he was going towards him. He may have thought that Peter was badly wounded & he could still take his power.
Old 05-02-07 | 05:16 PM
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I don't think Jessica is her special power, just a split personality issue. What Jessica/Nikki has is super human strength and that is not a lame power. In the future, it seem like Nikki has the super human strength without switching over to Jessica.
I always wonder if I'm the only person that sees Jessica/Niki as a straight-up Incredible Hulk clone - complete with a "don't make me angry" trigger. I remember people going back and forth on what her deal was - it was obvious to me from episode 1.
Old 05-02-07 | 05:18 PM
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We know what the Hulk's damage was, though. It's still not super clear to me why Nikki/Jessica works the way she does.
Old 05-02-07 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Great post, Nuff. Except: In this episode, Future Hiro was planning on going back in time and visiting Peter...but he died before he got the chance to do so.

So there are at least two timelines: one in which Future Hiro goes back to warn Peter, and one in which he doesn't.
I don't think that's right -- at the start of this week's episode, Future Hiro has just returned from warning Peter. That's why he's so shocked to return to a post-apocalyptic distopia.

There are also a couple different timelines around Google Girl. One in which she doesn't know Hiro, and one in which she does.
Is Google Girl the one who can tap into the internet wihtout a computer? If so, when have we seen any indication as to whether she knows Hiro?
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Originally Posted by Nuff
I see speculation about multiple timelines and all sorts of other things...but the simpler explanation is that there is just one timeline:

Peter is exploding, Hiro stabs him (thinking he is Sylar), Peter regenerates b/c he has Claire's power and explodes NYC. Hiro thinks (for whatever reason) that this was Sylar. Bennet puts Claire in hiding as a brunette and Hiro after 5 years of research and tying strings around Isaaic's apartment thinks Sylar killed Claire and stole her power. He theorizes that if his former self saves her from Sylar then Sylar won't survive Hiro's stab and NYC will be saved. There is no need for multiple timelines to explain what we have seen. It is entirely Hiro (and others) thinking Sylar was the exploding man...
Compelling thought, but I think that Mr Bennet's reaction to the Claire question suggests she really died the first time around. Good ol' HRG....FIRMLY in the good camp now.
Old 05-02-07 | 05:39 PM
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I don't think that's right -- at the start of this week's episode, Future Hiro has just returned from warning Peter. That's why he's so shocked to return to a post-apocalyptic distopia.
Hmm...maybe I heard things incorrectly.
Is Google Girl the one who can tap into the internet wihtout a computer? If so, when have we seen any indication as to whether she knows Hiro?
Google Girl = red-headed waitress
Old 05-02-07 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aynrandgirl
I think the point here is that "save the cheerleader, save the world" is wrong, because Hiro is mistaken as to who caused the NYC explosion. Nathan made an even worse mistake blaming Sylar for the explosion, as the heroes stop looking for him since they think he's dead. It's easy to work in secret when your opponents think you're dead. Saving Claire needn't save Nathan or illusion-girl, both of which Sylar can easily kill in order to install himself as President. Sylar doesn't know about illusion-girl yet, so I'm betting that at some point he gets access to the Company database, which is far more useful to him since, unlike Mohinder's, it says what their powers are allowing him to go after the highest-value targets first.
Theory #1
In the original timeline, Sylar was the expoding man. pHiro tried to kill him but failed because Sylar had killed Claire & taken her powers. fHiro then thinks if he could go back & get someone to save Claire then he would be able to kill Sylar & save the world. What he doesn't realise is that his changing the past(saving Claire) caused ripples that has caused other changes to happen.

The future remained unchanged(the exposion still occurs) & fHiro is puzzled how this could be if Sylar didn't kill Claire. What he doesn't realise is that his tampering with the past caused ripples so that the explosion still takes place but it is now Peter who does it & not Sylar.

Theory #2
In the original timeline,Sylar kills Claire & gets her power.Down the road, Peter & Sylar end up in a fight. Peter overloads with all the powers he absorbs from Sylar in the fight & the goes out of control. The shapeshifter power he just got from Sylar turns him into Sylar & he starts to go nuclear. Hiro arrives on the scene & tries to kill Sylar(Peter) where is how Peter gets his scar (he just absorbed Claire's power from Sylar & doesn't have complete control of it yet . It heals but not completely.). Peter goes nuclear & destroys the city.
fHiro now believes that Sylar is the exploding man & that he was unable to kill him because he had gotten Claire's powers. He believes if he goes into the past & has someone save Claire then he can kill Sylar & save the city. But since he is wrong & it is Peter that explodes he doesn't prevent the explosion.
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Theory #2
In the original timeline,Sylar kills Claire & gets her power.Down the road, Peter & Sylar end up in a fight. Peter overloads with all the powers he absorbs from Sylar in the fight & the goes out of control. The shapeshifter power he just got from Sylar turns him into Sylar & he starts to go nuclear. Hiro arrives on the scene & tries to kill Sylar(Peter) where is how Peter gets his scar (he just absorbed Claire's power from Sylar & doesn't have complete control of it yet . It heals but not completely.). Peter goes nuclear & destroys the city.
fHiro now believes that Sylar is the exploding man & that he was unable to kill him because he had gotten Claire's powers. He believes if he goes into the past & has someone save Claire then he can kill Sylar & save the city. But since he is wrong & it is Peter that explodes he doesn't prevent the explosion.
That is a kick ass theory!
Old 05-02-07 | 07:10 PM
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Theory #2
In the original timeline,Sylar kills Claire & gets her power.Down the road, Peter & Sylar end up in a fight. Peter overloads with all the powers he absorbs from Sylar in the fight & the goes out of control. The shapeshifter power he just got from Sylar turns him into Sylar & he starts to go nuclear. Hiro arrives on the scene & tries to kill Sylar(Peter) where is how Peter gets his scar (he just absorbed Claire's power from Sylar & doesn't have complete control of it yet . It heals but not completely.). Peter goes nuclear & destroys the city.
fHiro now believes that Sylar is the exploding man & that he was unable to kill him because he had gotten Claire's powers. He believes if he goes into the past & has someone save Claire then he can kill Sylar & save the city. But since he is wrong & it is Peter that explodes he doesn't prevent the explosion.
Ummm, but wouldn't future Hiro figure it out pretty quickly since he still knows Peter and can see the scar on his face?
Old 05-02-07 | 07:36 PM
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That is a kick ass theory!
agreed. but than what do i know. the whole time travel thing throws me for a loop anyway.

i am surprised that parkman would fall for taking the DHS job when they kept ignoring him in the first place.
Old 05-02-07 | 10:36 PM
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Since noone can use their powers around the Haiitan couldn't he get to Sylar, overpower him & than use his power to erase or change his memories. He erases all his memories of killing people, taking their powers & all the other terrible things he has done. He gives him memories of helping people with the powers he has & other good memories.
So in season 2, Sylar is one of the good guys instead of the villian. The heroes now work with him but are still uneasy since he was such a bad guy.
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. He gives him memories of helping people with the powers he has & other good memories.
So in season 2, Sylar is one of the good guys instead of the villian. The heroes now work with him but are still uneasy since he was such a bad guy.
I beleive the haitian can only take away memories not give them
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Originally Posted by kiddk1
I beleive the haitian can only take away memories not give them
Then he takes all Sylar's memories of his powers, how he kills to get them, knowledge of the Heroes & any other memories of terrible things he did & Sylar is just an ordinary, harmless guy.
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Ummm, but wouldn't future Hiro figure it out pretty quickly since he still knows Peter and can see the scar on his face?
Ok, let's try this out then. Hiro tries to kill Sylar/Peter but sees that he heals & has to leave at this point because Sylar/Peter is on the verge of exploding. Peter explodes & is struck by a piece of metal. His healing power is unable to completely heal him because the massive amount of radiation from the explosion prevents a complete regeneration & he is left with a scar.


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