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The Sopranos - "Remember When" - 04/22/07
Putting the picture in spoilers too, for reasons you'll understand if you look at it.
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The "I'll take some Sprees" line made my girlfriend choke.
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Anyone else get queezy watching the scene on the boat. Up and down, up and down.
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Jen Araki my favorite soprano girl ever where she been my life
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wow these Sopranos threads get smaller and smaller every week looks like the show lost alot of viewers.
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Nah people are still watching Entourage up until 10 minutes ago.
I liked it - not the best episode, but a lot of development. That last scene with Paulie and Tony on the boat was some tense shit. And hey, there was some killing to satisfy the mob war hounds. Win-win! |
I loved the old photo's they were excellent, looks like tony is done living in the past, and is ready to make some choices, he was testing paulie on the boat, and I think paulie passed.
But he is such a fucking stupid big mouth, the end were he was dreaming about pussy was great! |
I must say that I admire Paulie Walnuts' diverse collection of shoes.
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For a second, I thought Pauly was a goner. He's not going down for sure, if they kill someone, it's going to be a person we care for or least suspect. Pauly was too obvious.
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
wow these Sopranos threads get smaller and smaller every week looks like the show lost alot of viewers.
If that's the case, they missed a great episode in my eyes. Junior's friend getting a taste of the action, which was a handful of buttons of course, was classic. "You earned it." |
Ive been a loyal watcher for six seasons, i have to say that was by far the worst eposode ever IMO....The whole thing just felt like "filler". Who care's about junior's wannabe sidekick...
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BTW...the timing of the episode with the rage filled asian guy was...
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Nah people are still watching Entourage up until 10 minutes ago.
Originally Posted by bunkaroo
That last scene with Paulie and Tony on the boat was some tense shit. And hey, there was some killing to satisfy the mob war hounds. Win-win!
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Man, the Sopranos crew are faster than the South Park crew for current events.
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This show officially sucks.
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Since when did Paulie become such a blabbermouth. After 6 seasons seems like the writers decided to make him talk so much just to give Tony a reason to think about killing him. He was never like that before.
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I lost it when Paulie was cracking up at Three's Company. :lol:
Also, it was great to see Junior in his last days basically being a Boss. I don't think it'll take much to send T over the edge with Paulie. I was surprised that Tony was yacking it up with that chick he banged after chastising Paulie for that very thing. She had to be working with the feds with all those questions. |
Isn't that the first time Tony's cheated on Carm since they got back together, at least that they have shown? Wasn't that kind of glossed over, especially since they made such a big deal out of it when he didn't cheat with that realtor?
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Originally Posted by cracksky
I was surprised that Tony was yacking it up with that chick he banged after chastising Paulie for that very thing. She had to be working with the feds with all those questions.
Pretty tense episode. I knew, as soon as it was pet day, that Corrado would have a 'pussy' cat after getting his ass kicked by the Asian guy. Interesting how this season has pretty much centered on one character per episode. First, the Bobby show, then the Chris show, and now the Paulie show. Although there has been some pretty important developments and action involving other characters, they have still seemed peripheral to the episodes. |
the whole Junior storyline was very Cuckoos Nest I thought
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
BTW...the timing of the episode with the rage filled asian guy was...
...unfortunate Yeah and they were singing a song with "Virginia" in the words when it happened. :eek: |
Originally Posted by JZ1276
Since when did Paulie become such a blabbermouth. After 6 seasons seems like the writers decided to make him talk so much just to give Tony a reason to think about killing him. He was never like that before.
Of course, Ralphie has been dead, and now Johnny is dead, and it's relatively moot. But it's not about the writers manufacturing a reason for conflict between Tony and Paulie; if they wanted to do that, they'd just have Paulie do something in the first five minutes of the episode to piss Tony off. That doesn't work because Paulie is not the catalyst. Paulie is the same as he's always been, but he's annoying to Tony because of where Tony is in his existential crisis. If he seems different, it's because Tony is the point of identification and he's seeing Paulie differently. Stuff he wouldn't have noticed is now bothering him. Paulie is a sad old man who knows he's seen his best days, and is living in the past, and that bugs Tony, because Paulie's decline says something to him about his own mortality. |
Great post. I agree the Tony is just more aware of Paulie's annoying mouth and that Paulie has always "been Paulie". As mentioned earlier the conversation with the Call Girl Tony had was weird. At first I was thinking it could be some set up(FBI informant) thing but who knows...
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"He is a stand up guy............oh sorry!"
"Chevy Chase....what the fuck ever happened to him?" This episode showed that Tony still cares about Paulie, more cause he admired him as a kid working with his dad, but he realizes Paulies days as an earner are way past, and that is the reason he wanted to knock him off on the boat, Paulie just being annoying was just a part of that reason. It is always about the money with Tony, remember how he wanted to keep Vito alive last year after the gay stuff came out, cause he was a good earner. Follow the money. |
I think when Carm said at the beginning, "This is the life we still live?" tells a lot about where the show is going to go.
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Originally Posted by kantonburg
I think when Carm said at the beginning, "This is the life we still live?" tells a lot about where the show is going to go.
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
Since when did Paulie become such a blabbermouth. After 6 seasons seems like the writers decided to make him talk so much just to give Tony a reason to think about killing him. He was never like that before.
Are you serious? It may have been laid on a little thick this episode but Paulie has always been a blabber mouth. Remember when Tony was in the coma and Tony was about to check out, Paulie was going on and on and Tony was banging on the wall of his hotel room. "will you be quit in there" And then after Tony was okay Paulie was in the lobby telling everyone he was holding Tonys hand and comforting him, when all of a sudden... Tony wanting to kill Paulie just shows how all of these mob guys think, they never fully trust anyone. It wasnt that long ago when Paulie and Vito where holding out on the money for Carmela until they found out Tony was alright. Did Silvo keep saying it was Larry Boy thats talking to the Feds about the dead bookie? |
Yeah, I was kind of surprised to hear that Larry Barese was talking to the feds too. He did feed them misinformation about the bookie's murder though.
Good to see Junior again, he was MIA for most of the first part of the season. It was funny watching him try to recreate the atmosphere of his executive card game with the patients, it was almost like a sitcom. I really thought his "helper" was going to kill him. Very tense with Tony and Paulie the whole trip. I'm a little confused with the NY guy getting whacked. Is he the one that orchestrated the Jerry Torciano hit last episode and this is his payback? When the killers were speeding away, were they with the little creepy guy that got in Tony's face last year? |
Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
Good to see Junior again, he was MIA for most of the first part of the season. It was funny watching him try to recreate the atmosphere of his executive card game with the patients, it was almost like a sitcom. I really thought his "helper" was going to kill him. Always good to see Jumior, and I think he should have been banged upo a little more since they guy threw him into the wall several times. Its almost sad to see Junior where he is now. Very tense with Tony and Paulie the whole trip. It was also tense with the Mexicans, I thought Paulie might get shot after he pinched that guys cheeck to funny. They seem to be showing a lot more outside business this season, first the Canooks and not the Mexicans. I'm a little confused with the NY guy getting whacked. Is he the one that orchestrated the Jerry Torciano hit last episode and this is his payback? When the killers were speeding away, were they with the little creepy guy that got in Tony's face last year? |
Been a fan of the Sopranos since day one, this was a fantastic episode....It's about time they got fun again!
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Does everyone have a friend like Paulie? You know the kind you are somehow friends with, but they annoy you to shit 95% of time.
I know I do. Anyway, I loved the scenes btwn Tony and Paulie, particularly in the boat. I don't know what to think of the Junior scenes. |
Anyone else get "Godfather" vibes from Tony and his tomato plants?
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I think we just saw Junior's last ep, this was his swan song.
I think Tony let Paulie off the hook because he was so close to Dad and he really treated him like family. But Paulie and his big mouth may be Tony's ultimate downfall. |
Originally Posted by mphtrilogy
I think we just saw Junior's last ep, this was his swan song.
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The look of dread on Paulie's face as the boat was pulling away from the dock was classic!!! I though for sure he was a goner.
He still may get it, the look an Tony's face at the last shot in the office as Paulie was rambling on to Chris said it all. |
Can someone please post their opinion on this:
Why did the Asian guy attack JR: 1) He was making a power play for the "boss" position (my guess) 2) Did he view Jr as his "father" and this was a way of taking out his rage about his real father? (If so - then weak) 3) He is in a loony bin for a reason - he is just crazy 4) He wants to be on the same medication that Jr was put on when he attacked the Prof. Just a way to escape from reality. |
"I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop..."
It seems as if in this final season that we're being treated to episodes on how Tony communicates with his crew, and his frustration with the fact that they are experiencing some sort of joy that he's missing out on. This week, we got some insight on his relationship with Paulie. - Unlike any other season, Tony is in constant fear these days. He fears his own mortality, and knows that he's headed straight to hell (just like Christopher when he was shot back in season 2). His drinking is out of control, as I've noticed some slurred speech throughout the episode; and he's way into gambling. Overall, he has become totally joyless, and becomes enraged when he has to confront that fact (Tony has contemplated killing Bobby, Christopher, and Paulie this season for no practical reason). - Paulie has an awesome collection of shoes. Should I wear the white one or the white one.....? - Uncle Junior and his new associate. I found it funny how he has found a way to host the "executive game" in the insane asylum; probably telling the same old jokes that he told in the past. Instead of hard alcohol and cigars, he's serving up Coke and Spree. Junior getting destroyed by the spoiled asian was perfectly built up, and for a moment, I thought that was how Junior was going to be killed off. His fate is much worse now; having to realize that he has no power, and that his body has broken down (i.e. pissing his pants). - "Remember When" was the main theme. Junior is still living in the past, acting like the boss of the asylum. He beats down a fellow crazy when he feels disrespected (complete with kicks to the gut). Paulie loves rehashing the past, because the present is so boring and uneventful. Tony hates thinking of the past, because he has no positive memories of the way things used to be (total joylessness). - Blabbermouth Paulie. Tony knows that he's the one who told the Johnny Sac joke. He wanted Paulie to admit it. When Paulie doesn't admit it, Tony continues to grill him (a direct comparison to the FBI); and Paule stands tall. Paulie knows that if he admits it, then he will have to pay the price. Regardless, Tony was still intent on killing Paulie (if not for the fact he doesn't earn as much as he used it, but more for the fact that he's bored). He looks around the boat, and there are noting but instruments of death all over the place (axe, knife, rope,etc). He sees Paulie in a vunerable state leaning off the side; and decides to peg him with a root beer bottle hoping to knock him off the side of the boat. I'm fairly certain Tony would just have left him to drown. But of course, a $2,000 espresso maker heals all wounds. - New York. The most important part of the episode was the dinner scene with Phil Leonardo. The "new" boss is a jerk. He takes money from Phil, and has the nerve to eat food off his plate. Obviously, Phil knows that he needs to act now; or this will continue to be the norm. The hit was well executed (pun), and much like GF1; the boss takes a bullet in the eye to signify that his eyes (appetite = greed) were too excessive. Phil will rule NY with an iron fist. Tony better watch out. - Dick Cheney. Very funny (almost as funny as when Junior saw Larry David on TV). |
Can someone explain the NY power struggle in a relatively concise manner? I had no clue where that new boss who got whacked came from. I thought Phil was the new boss, then decides to give it up, then decides to take it back over? :confused:
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Originally Posted by jackepstein
Regardless, Tony was still intent on killing Paulie (if not for the fact he doesn't earn as much as he used it, but more for the fact that he's bored). He looks around the boat, and there are noting but instruments of death all over the place (axe, knife, rope,etc). He sees Paulie in a vunerable state leaning off the side; and decides to peg him with a root beer bottle hoping to knock him off the side of the boat..
But I have to disagree with you and the Paulie thing. Who here has not been on a road trip with a friend or had a roomate that you like - but just gets on your nerves from time to time? We were seeing that Tony once looked up to Paulie when he was a kid, now Paulie looks up to Tony.. but instead of Tony being responsible with that admiration - he shrugs it off and does not enjoy the friendships he has |
Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
Can someone please post their opinion on this:
Why did the Asian guy attack JR: 1) He was making a power play for the "boss" position (my guess) 2) Did he view Jr as his "father" and this was a way of taking out his rage about his real father? (If so - then weak) 3) He is in a loony bin for a reason - he is just crazy 4) He wants to be on the same medication that Jr was put on when he attacked the Prof. Just a way to escape from reality. |
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