i think locke could pass for 50 and his dad 70

Great episode.

But I hate it when I guess the ending. I knew they would have his dad in there.

can you remind me of what youre talking about

the manifest hurley found from the plane.. since.. sawyers name is really james.. sawyer and james were on the list. So that means.. the real sawyer has to be lockes dad right? he was on the plane..

This was definitely a WTF episode

Fuckin' great, great episode. Add this as another in a long line of brilliant and tragic Locke episodes. I still rate Season 1 > Season 3 > Season 2, but Season 3 is really creeping up there. one of the best written, acted, and directed episodes of LOST ever, and the big reveal was in no way an anticlimax.

I agree. Unfortunately, I don't watch the show anymore except for "Locke-centric" episodes, but I was enthralled with everything. I agree with someone else who stated that even though they knew the reveal of the wheelchair would come - the push was sudden and shocking.

I've watched all of the Locke episodes, but did I miss something in past episodes or at the beginning of this episode? Why was Locke getting disability? Was it just for depression? I thought it was because of the wheelchair until he got up and walked out.

Pretty good episode. I wasn't as blown away as some apparently were, but it was probably the best of the season and hopefully signals that the show's going through another strong swing, like it did last year once Ben was first introduced.

The friends I watch with were pretty pissed that Locke's dad is on the island, but that honestly didn't bother me that much, as unexplained bizarre coincidences have become a staple on Lost. I'm curious if Locke's dad is really there, or if it's more along the lines of Jack's/Claire's dad, Kate's horse, Hurley's Dave, etc., etc.

I know we've already had it demonstrated that Ben and the Others know a lot about the crash survivors, but last night really felt like it was pushing it a bit. It's getting to the point where they almost have to go the route of the survivors' memories having been programmed into them. Why else would the Others know every little detail about them? I also like that theory, because it offers a plausible reason for all the extensive crossovers in the survivors flashbacks.

Right before dear old Dad pushed Locke out the window, Locke was accusing him of killing the young guy that came to see him. I was puttering around right before that so maybe I missed it, how did Locke find out that the kid died?

Great shot of Locke with his arms in the air as the sub exploded behind him.

The cops told him when they came to ask if he had met the boy.

Loved the callback shot of Locke looking down the hatch.

Sounds like a sound way to watch a show with an ongoing storyline...

You do what you do. I do what I do.

Yep. Depression.

I forgot all about that. Brilliant idea.

Thanks.

I'm still waiting for this revelation:

I enjoyed this episode as most did, but I have one problem. Ben is seemingly so smug and worldly - and yet he's never lived in a genuine society. How is he made the de facto leader of the Others when in fact he has the least social skills of them all? If he has never left the island, what does he really know about the real world? :hscratch:

because Ben is a master of manipluation .. I'm sure he was able to rise to the top by pitting those in power against each other until he was the top dog.

Did he say that he's never left the island? I know he said he has lived there his whole life but that doesnt mean he's never been to the "real world".

I have a question.....

Is Ben actually Alex's biological father? Or is the relationship and adoptive one? It doesn't make sense to me if he is actually her dad.

Fantastic episode.

So is "The Man From Tallahassee" the dude who recruited Juliet (Batmanuel) or is it Locke's dad?

When Locke was in the closet, Ben said, "Richard, bring me the man from Tallahassee."

So in my mind either Richard = Batmanuel or Batmanuel = TMFT.

Nevermind, I looked it up on IMDB and answered my own stupid question. Richard = Batmanuel. So either TMFT is Locke's dad and they already had him on the island and the magic box is a ruse or there was someone in between Richard and Locke's dad that we didn't see.

"I'd say that box better be big enough to make you another submarine." rotfl

I think TMFT is Locke's dad.