should this be in that other talk thread? whatever. thing is lol.

http://www.jokeroo.com/funnyvideos/s...t_episode.html

Funny stuff. Well-edited. Perfect running time, too!

I seem to recall reading somewhere about a couple of "lost" Seinfeld episodes.

One involved George making an inadvertant racist slur and another had Elaine buying a gun.

If they do exist, I don't think they ever got past the scripting/pre-productioin stage.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=485092

There was an episode called The Gun that was never filmed. They talk about it on the DVD for whatever season it was written for (I think it was around the time of the Nazis in the Limo episode)

That was pretty damn funny.

How come Kramer is getting in trouble for using the N word when black guys say it all the time. I have never used the N word in my life. But I don't think black people should be angry at white people for saying what they say. That is bullshit!

Da Badass? DaBa? J.D., is that you?

Seriously though, you honestly can't see the difference between black people using the term "*****" with one another as opposed to white people trying to use it, usually saying "******"? As far as I can tell, when black people use it, it's often a term of endearment, not the racial slur it originated as. But even setting aside the supposed difference between the two versions of the word...when Chris Rock uses that word or "cracker", he's not yelling it AT someone. He's not singling someone out in the crowd, which unfortunately is EXACTLY what Kramer was doing.

Someone somewhere tried to say "what about when Chris Rock says 'cracker' in his routines?" This is a person on stage clearly doing a comedic routine. Michael Richards was losing it and flew off the handle. Do I think he's a bigot? I'm honestly not sure, but I wouldn't think he was. I sort of think of Chris Rock's bit where he says "I love black people, I HATE ******s."

Here's the video I'm thinking of (sorry forgot how to link it all pretty like): http://youtube.com/watch?v=_q8LxO4wnCQ

EDIT: forgot to also say, one problem is that the N word is so commonly used that it can desensitize someone to it (wasn't that Richard Pryor's original thought...if you use it enough you take away the sting, the power of the word?). It's so common in rap music etc., and when white kids (and black kids too) hear it often enough, it sort of feels ok to say it...if nothing else just to emulate the people they admire. So in that capacity, people shouldn't be too shocked when they heard the word being casually thrown around. But that's STILL a night and day difference between just tossing the word around casually and looking at someone, singling someone out and throwing the word at them.

Still, I think if Michael Richards was doing a "routine" similar to Chris Rock and said the "n" word, he'd still have gotten in trouble. It seems like when Chris Rock throws out a racial slur of any kind, it's funny. But if Michael Richards did the same, it's racism.

That might be true...but now we'll never know with him. Instead of just doing a routine, he decided to dress someone down directly, but worse.

Is there some kind of proof a problem of this nature in the past? I mean a stand-up comic doing a routine of a racial nature that got them into hot water...

There's two things to look at here.

1. Black people shouldn't be saying it, because it was originally used as a racial slur for demeaning purposes. But if they do, it's their prerogative. Bill Cosby spoke out about it too (along with rap music, mainly for it's content and not the style).

2. Whether there was any doubt as to Richards' intent -- as in, is he really racist or not -- telling the black hecklers that they should be fortunate of where they are because 50 years ago they would've been hung upside down with a fork stuck up their ass.

Sheesh.