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Old 11-15-06 | 05:19 PM
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So how did Mercer do his radio call-in show if he was busy burning down hotels in Mexico, or did I miss something?
Old 11-15-06 | 05:24 PM
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So how did Mercer do his radio call-in show if he was busy burning down hotels in Mexico, or did I miss something?
Different rapes. The radio shows were alibis for different rapes than the hotel fire in Mexico.
Old 11-15-06 | 05:44 PM
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Different rapes. The radio shows were alibis for different rapes than the hotel fire in Mexico.
Correct.

Still, you have to wonder why Veronica had to 'discover' that Mercer was on the radio during those times... instead of Mercer just coming up with his own alibi and telling the arresting officer "Hey, numbnuts... I was on the air during some of the attacks. I didn't do it."
Old 11-15-06 | 05:51 PM
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i'm glad to see that pizz is probably not the rapist. i thought the veronica mars marching order of killing off or making them guilty any nice person the on the show would win out. where is the computer geek girls roomate this episode she's hot. if i was pizz i'd be hitting hit. he may dreams veronica but as they say a hand in the bush is worth two feathers or something like that.
also make jason dorn evil again. he is the worst good guy in history and veronica is not dumb enough to like him knowing what he has done. it is the most unbelievable romance on tv.
Old 11-15-06 | 06:12 PM
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this episode veronica knows she is drugged and goes into a parking deck by her self. give me a break no way is she that dumb. Veronica has definetely been dumbed down. I can't stand when she is obnoxious to people who don't deserve it. Like pizz, he lets her stay at his room and she is basically a jerk to him, sleep on the floor nice guy who is foolish enough to like me. I would be like get out of my room b**ch.

I think the radio dj accused of rape had no idea where he was on those dates that is why he did know to check the dj logs at the station.
Old 11-15-06 | 08:27 PM
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Or not since he needed to be away from campus and from any distractions to successfully cram for his midterm in that class.
You are exactly right; I confused the reason why Wallace wasn't around for one of the other reasons why other cast members haven't been around.
Old 11-15-06 | 08:41 PM
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On a shallow note, KBell looked sexy even in boxers and a t-shirt. Is there anything she can't look good in?
Hell yes. I want screen caps. She looked damn cute.
Old 11-15-06 | 09:18 PM
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Not only was V's trip to the parking garage ridiculous, but what about her trip to the Fitzpatrick clan's dungeon? Clearly she was hesitant on going in, but she eventually went in anyway. What if that other P.I. wasn't there to rescue her? Eh, two totally stupid things about an otherwise entertaining episode. Also, am I the only one that wants Logan and Veronica to stay together? They've been through too much to simply call it quits. Also, IIRC, last season they gave a couple of hints suggesting that those two were meant to be together.
Old 11-15-06 | 09:24 PM
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My out-of-left-field theory for the rapist:

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The RA who offered Veronica and the girlfriend tea. Maybe he ran into the victims in a tired/drunk/vulnerable state, and offered them doped-tea.

Probably not, but that is what immediately came to my mind when I heard him offer the girls tea.
Old 11-15-06 | 10:09 PM
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I like the new opening theme, looks very good with the lights turned off !!

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Old 11-15-06 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
My out-of-left-field theory for the rapist:

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The RA who offered Veronica and the girlfriend tea. Maybe he ran into the victims in a tired/drunk/vulnerable state, and offered them doped-tea.

Probably not, but that is what immediately came to my mind when I heard him offer the girls tea.
I agree. The writers had to include that one line of dialog this week that said he has keys to every dorm room.
Old 11-15-06 | 10:17 PM
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They were at the radio station but don't have a radio show. Why would she assume that he had a show just because he was there?
Well, my wife remembers it my way too. Veroncia and Parker show up at the radio station to see Piz. They run into Mercer carrying a box of records and he says he has the hottest House music show on campus.

Anyway, it's nit-picking.
Old 11-15-06 | 10:41 PM
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also make jason dorn evil again. he is the worst good guy in history and veronica is not dumb enough to like him knowing what he has done. it is the most unbelievable romance on tv.
I totally agree. He was a GREAT evil character. But as a boyfriend to Veronica, it almost makes me cringe to watch their scenes together. I guess they just want to throw some interesting relationships in or something. I didn't buy V's dad with the married chick either. He'd have never even let that start.
Old 11-15-06 | 11:45 PM
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Well, my wife remembers it my way too. Veroncia and Parker show up at the radio station to see Piz. They run into Mercer carrying a box of records and he says he has the hottest House music show on campus.

Anyway, it's nit-picking.
Your right. Parker makes V take her to hangout with Piz at the station but Piz tries to duck out says he has to leave because Mercer's show is starting right after his.

On the subject of Logan, his new whipped persona is boring, and they aren't writing their relationship very well. They played up his "I can't tell you" alibi, but it was a bust, at least in this episode. I hope for the show's sake that he was lying and it really was something horrendous.
Old 11-16-06 | 12:07 AM
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Where's Mack???
I am not caring for the Veronica and Logan. There's a lot of potential there but they are making them boring together.
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Old 11-16-06 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Correct.

Still, you have to wonder why Veronica had to 'discover' that Mercer was on the radio during those times... instead of Mercer just coming up with his own alibi and telling the arresting officer "Hey, numbnuts... I was on the air during some of the attacks. I didn't do it."
It's doubtful he knows as much about the timing of the attacks as Veronica does. He may know the dates, but he probably doesn't know the details of each rape's timeline.
Old 11-16-06 | 01:55 AM
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Where's Mack???
Shooting Big Love Season 2.
Old 11-16-06 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker
Not only was V's trip to the parking garage ridiculous, but what about her trip to the Fitzpatrick clan's dungeon? Clearly she was hesitant on going in, but she eventually went in anyway. What if that other P.I. wasn't there to rescue her? Eh, two totally stupid things about an otherwise entertaining episode.
The other girl ran in to certain danger first; was Veronica supposed to just leave her there? It creates an interesting parallel to Logan's alibi, where he decides to put himself first and run.
Old 11-16-06 | 11:20 AM
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The whole thing about V being stupid after drinking the GHB drink, is that who would she call? She's angry and Logan and her father, and that's what made her comments at the ending so meaningful. She didn't call them out of spite, and it could have backfired on her but instead Logan helped her out anyways and Keith cared for her. I mean...it's not like you would expect Logan to NOT help her...but it was a cute sentiment that she spoke about at the end, about love and all.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
My out-of-left-field theory for the rapist:

Spoiler:
The RA who offered Veronica and the girlfriend tea. Maybe he ran into the victims in a tired/drunk/vulnerable state, and offered them doped-tea.

Probably not, but that is what immediately came to my mind when I heard him offer the girls tea.
That's who I've thought is the rapist since episode 2. As I recall
Spoiler:
he helped with the safe ride home program didn't he? So yes he was very aware of parker at least being in a vulnerable state.
Old 11-16-06 | 07:12 PM
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I think Veronica leaving her drink was obviously dumb and a bit out of character. It's the sort of slip up I could see anybody making, though.

I don't think it dumb for Veronica to try to lock herself in the vehicle instead of staying in the food court to pass out. The offender was clearly there and clearly has experience taking women from public places like frat parties and raping them. You have to think that the rapist was planning to do just that this time as well. When you couple that with the fact that the last time Veronica was drugged like this and raped, she was at a party with a ton of people, it's easy to see why a drugged Veronica might act the way she did.
Old 11-17-06 | 11:59 AM
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Some real lame, manipulative plotting this episode. The cup left on the table screamed plot device. And no woman with an ounce of sense would stagger into a darkened garage. She wait in a brightly-lit cafeteria and call someone ... or at least wait for the dizziness to pass. Hopefully this lazy writing is just a blip ... .
Old 11-17-06 | 03:01 PM
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Some real lame, manipulative plotting this episode. The cup left on the table screamed plot device.
Well honestly, when she first put the tray down I was wondering why her soda cup had no lid or straw. That's when I knew something was going in the drink.
Old 11-17-06 | 03:40 PM
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Well honestly, when she first put the tray down I was wondering why her soda cup had no lid or straw. That's when I knew something was going in the drink.
My first clue was when the camera lingered on the drink for about 30 freaking seconds. The show was posting its own spoilers.
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