Chappelle spills more beans why he left
04-14-06 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
Welcome to FUCKING showbusiness!!!
But frankly, I really don't care why he left. He walked out on his show and he walked out on his fans, so screw him. If he doesn't like working for "The Man", he can go back to being a B-list comedian.
04-14-06 | 12:52 AM
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An assload of week, however ......... 
04-14-06 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan
you may be joking, but just in case... an assload of weed makes you stupid, it makes you slow and forgetful, it doesn't make you crazy.
I can vouch for that!
04-14-06 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Derrich
All of you are wrong and Dave is right.
It's not the money he's complaining about, its the control. He felt like even though it was supposedly his show, there are these guys who are still telling him what to do. They gave him a bunch of money, so they figured they owned him. Thats not a fun feeling.
For Dave, it's not about money, because he's already rich. Now it's about feeling good about what he does, and working under those conditions, he didn't like it. And so why should he stay? Because some guy says 'I gave you all this money, so you have to do what I want'? Not many people would walk away, and I'm glad he did.
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It's not the money he's complaining about, its the control. He felt like even though it was supposedly his show, there are these guys who are still telling him what to do. They gave him a bunch of money, so they figured they owned him. Thats not a fun feeling.
For Dave, it's not about money, because he's already rich. Now it's about feeling good about what he does, and working under those conditions, he didn't like it. And so why should he stay? Because some guy says 'I gave you all this money, so you have to do what I want'? Not many people would walk away, and I'm glad he did.
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04-14-06 | 03:11 AM
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Well I was going to get the first two seasons on DVD, but then I realized that I was white and already own everything..so..naw.
More anti-white rhetoric that just might backfire a'la Cynthia McKinney, but this will just be a fast blip on the media radar simply for the fact that its okay for blacks to bash whitey but not the other way around. Staggering.
More anti-white rhetoric that just might backfire a'la Cynthia McKinney, but this will just be a fast blip on the media radar simply for the fact that its okay for blacks to bash whitey but not the other way around. Staggering.
04-14-06 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
Dave Chapelle's dementia is funnier than anything he ever did on that show.
Fifty million bucks and he still thinks he's Kunta Kinte.
Fifty million bucks and he still thinks he's Kunta Kinte.
Dear Dave,
MAN UP SON!!!!! You just got handed a ton of money by the very same white people you lampoon regularly and now you're acting like a PUNK ASS BITCH!!!!
You just got bitch slapped by a 50 million dollar FAT PAYCHECK and your SILLY RACISM obsessed PARANOID BRAIN!!!
I don't EVER want to hear you complain about racism or how unfair America is. You were handed the "world" and you shit on it.Penn & Teller should do a BULLSHIT ep on yo ass.
04-14-06 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by raven56706
"The bottom line was, white people own everything, and where can a black person go and be himself or say something that's familiar to him and not have to explain or apologize?"
They have layaway, right?
04-14-06 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
Welcome to FUCKING show business!!! that's what non-creative executive-types do. they meddle. i'm suprised by how hard everyone is coming down on him. $50 million bucks to produce a show comes with a heavy toll. imagine getting that kind of money to do the same job you've been doing for the last two years. you don't think things would change? management wouldn't be on your ass? accounting for every move you make? making sure they're getting their money's worth? how much of yourself would you be willing to compromise?[/soapbox]
As I mentioned in my previous post, I wouldn't doubt that they "meddled" in some fashion. But the likely scenario is that Dave was trying something different from previous seasons (whether that's good or bad, who knows) and the network were telling him they wanted more of the same. If anything he may have been making the show tamer himself (if his comments on Oprah about his regrets on the show are any indication).
Regardless, if he wasn't delivering what he was paid to, I can understand the meddling. And until he starts providing specifics, we really won't know what went wrong.
04-14-06 | 12:25 PM
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weed doesn't make you crazy.
04-14-06 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by raven56706
On an interview of Esquire mag :
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Dave Chappelle says in a new interview that he had several reasons for walking away from his cult-fave "Chappelle's Show" -- and a deal worth more than $50 million.
His decision to leave the Comedy Central series last May led fans and industry executives to question his motives, and his sanity.
But in a 10-page spread in the Esquire magazine arriving Saturday, he says he closed "Chappelle" for reasons cultural, professional and personal.
Culturally: "The bottom line was, white people own everything, and where can a black person go and be himself or say something that's familiar to him and not have to explain or apologize?"
Professionally: "I felt like I was really pressured to settle for something that I didn't necessarily feel like I wanted."
Personally: "The thing about show business is that, in a way, it forces dysfunctional relationships in people."
Chappelle tells the magazine that putting on "Chappelle's Show" was the best television experience he ever had. He plans to continue telling jokes and entertaining audiences, he says, so long as he can retain a degree of personal and creative freedom.
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starting not to like this guy....
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Dave Chappelle says in a new interview that he had several reasons for walking away from his cult-fave "Chappelle's Show" -- and a deal worth more than $50 million.
His decision to leave the Comedy Central series last May led fans and industry executives to question his motives, and his sanity.
But in a 10-page spread in the Esquire magazine arriving Saturday, he says he closed "Chappelle" for reasons cultural, professional and personal.
Culturally: "The bottom line was, white people own everything, and where can a black person go and be himself or say something that's familiar to him and not have to explain or apologize?"
Professionally: "I felt like I was really pressured to settle for something that I didn't necessarily feel like I wanted."
Personally: "The thing about show business is that, in a way, it forces dysfunctional relationships in people."
Chappelle tells the magazine that putting on "Chappelle's Show" was the best television experience he ever had. He plans to continue telling jokes and entertaining audiences, he says, so long as he can retain a degree of personal and creative freedom.
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starting not to like this guy....
04-14-06 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ShallowHal
KFC?
They have layaway, right?
They have layaway, right?
04-14-06 | 12:54 PM
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Has Neal Brennan or anyone other than Charlie Murphy (who I exclude because I remember reading something he wrote or said about the whole thing) written anything about what it is that happened? I ask because that's a book I'd love to read -- a third party perspective on what went down between Dave, CC, and the show.
04-14-06 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
i recently had a major financial shift in my business. my clients (universal, warner bros, new line, etc) used to provide me with budgets under $20,000 every 1 or 2 months. 40% of that was my typical profit margin. latley, my reputation for good work has gone up and now i'm getting high profile work with $150,000 - $250,000 budgets to manage every 3 or 4 months. the stress i'm under to perform and the amount of meddling by the client has all quadrupled. so i can buy more shit, but my quality of life has definitely gone down for the moment.[/soapbox]
If you feel so strongly about this, why not take a stand and place conditions? If your clients decide it's not worth the effort, then at least you can say that you stuck to your guns out of principle. I can respect someone for doing that.
Or heck, if being in show business is that crappy, then take your skills into another line of business and be less stressed and happier from it.
However, if you're taking the bigger paycheck and you know what you're getting into, it's pretty much considered whining at that point.
I don't know, maybe it's because alot of us are "common folk" who don't get show-business level paychecks. Stress at work? check. meddling clients? check. getting paid alot less? check.
04-14-06 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
If I made $50 million and in so doing someone else made $500 million....I could live with that.
04-14-06 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by greydt
If you feel so strongly about this, why not take a stand and place conditions? If your clients decide it's not worth the effort, then at least you can say that you stuck to your guns out of principle. I can respect someone for doing that.
Or heck, if being in show business is that crappy, then take your skills into another line of business and be less stressed and happier from it.
However, if you're taking the bigger paycheck and you know what you're getting into, it's pretty much considered whining at that point.
I don't know, maybe it's because alot of us are "common folk" who don't get show-business level paychecks. Stress at work? check. meddling clients? check. getting paid alot less? check.
Or heck, if being in show business is that crappy, then take your skills into another line of business and be less stressed and happier from it.
However, if you're taking the bigger paycheck and you know what you're getting into, it's pretty much considered whining at that point.
I don't know, maybe it's because alot of us are "common folk" who don't get show-business level paychecks. Stress at work? check. meddling clients? check. getting paid alot less? check.
04-14-06 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
people here were insinuating that he was getting paid $50 million to do the same thing he's always been doing. i used the example from my own life to show how the bigger payout will cause things to change drastically. i'm not complaining about the money. and i have a great time doing work i love. but that doesn't mean my job isn't more stressful because of the greater responsibility to give my clients their money's worth. isn't that plain enough to understand?
But that's the point everyone here is trying to make about Chappelle. He seems to be blaming everyone EXCEPT for himself. It's one thing if he just said "I couldn't take the stress from the changes" or "I didn't want to compromise my artistic integrity from the changes", but all we're getting is some kind of conspiracy/"feel sorry for me" explanation.
You defend Chappelle, but even the example you provide of yourself proves otherwise. If we were to use Chappelle's actions against your own life, it might mean that you're currently preparing to flee to another part of the country/world without telling anyone due to the stress...and then coming back and saying it's the client's fault for stressing you because you accepted their extra money and responsibilities.
Just proves you have a better work ethic despite the added stress
I'm only saying what I'm saying because you seem to be inferring that you support what Chappelle did after he received the deal. Sure, I think not one of us can doubt that there is more stress with such a large deal, but most of us are shaking our heads at the strange and erratic behavior/explanations since his return.
04-14-06 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
But what if you were making the $50 Million, and the $500 Million was going to PETA's Department of Dog Pampering? The choice isn't so easy now, is it?
04-14-06 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
$50 mil is $50 mil. Who the fuck cares where the rest goes as long as it isn't some terrorist organization? Oh wait, you did say PETA...
04-14-06 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan
you may be joking, but just in case... an assload of weed makes you stupid, it makes you slow and forgetful, it doesn't make you crazy.
So weed by itself would cause him to go nuts, but add 3-4 other factors that an overworked/stressed comedian can go through, then it may not be healthy. So the study said anyway, just passing on the info.
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04-15-06 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by greydt
But that's the point everyone here is trying to make about Chappelle. He seems to be blaming everyone EXCEPT for himself. It's one thing if he just said "I couldn't take the stress from the changes" or "I didn't want to compromise my artistic integrity from the changes", but all we're getting is some kind of conspiracy/"feel sorry for me" explanation.
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04-15-06 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
stress, compromises and a specific incident involving racist comments were the three reasons he gave on Inside the Actor's Studio several months ago.
04-16-06 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by paradicelost
Chapelle seems to be the last guy to be complaining about rascist comments.
If we are lucky Comedy Central will use some of the $50 million to lure Jimmy Kimmel into bringing back "The Man Show." Or how about another season of "TV Funhouse?"
04-17-06 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
stress, compromises and a specific incident involving racist comments were the three reasons he gave on Inside the Actor's Studio several months ago.