24 writing is a joke
 

I just learned that a couple character scene deaths were done at the last minute just because some spoilers were leaked on a website.

IE - 24, season 3. one of the character deaths was supposed to be a fake staged death, but since this info was leaked on a a website, the writers changed it at the last minute to make the character die for real.

Also, a character in season 3 was supposed to die, but since his "Death" was leaked on a website, they changed it at the last minute to keep him/her alive.

IMO, this is just retarded. Do the writers take the stories so lightly and just go for shock value only? For gods sake, a very small portion of the viewers actually read the spoilers, and its their loss. The writers should, plain and simple, write a good story and stick to it.

Major characters like these are very valuable, because you never know if the actor will stay with the show in the long run or not. Writers, don't make the decision to kill off or keep characters based on what was leaked to a spoiler website, please thats just ridiculous.

You forgot Day 1, there are two different alternate ending...

So, who were these deaths/non-deaths you speak of?

Who gives a damn?

im sure you heard these from the writers themselves

Chappelle and Chase.

Chappelle is one, I would imagine.

chapelles death was better than a fake staged death

the actor who played chappelle revealed this info in an interview.

so next time, don't use sarcasm until you kno your facts.

yes, chappelles death scene was better than a staged death, but writers still shouldn't make decisions based on some spoiler website.

This thread sucks. Who gives a shit whether or not they changed their mind. End result being good is what's important.

i could care less about if they change things in the last minute. As long as the show is good.

Alright, suppose the info was leaked ahead of time that Jack's "death" in season 4 was a staged death.

So then what if they turned that into a real death?

We'd have 24 without jack.

I don't care if they make last minute decisions or not, what I don't like is the fact that they ditch the original storyline taht they wrote just because a few internet nerds know about it.

now imagine on the show Lost if they reshot the death scene of that blonde girl just because the spoiler sites revealed her death.

now we'/d have to deal w/ that annoying blonde every week.

Good thing Lost doesn't go for only shock value the way 24 does.

Except...they didn't do that.

Don't use sarcasm if you're going to ignore the facts.

;)

There are alot of times when incorrect info is leaked just to throw people off though. I'm sure not every case of this is because of spoilers.

I dont care, they do a good job at the end of the day and put something on TV thats very exciting and fun to watch. thats all I care about

Exactly.

If they changed their mind on a few deaths, I don't care. They kill people at a pretty good clip so they have a lot of deaths to deal with. Besides, Chappelle's death was damn good TV, so it all worked out.

Duh.

Watch much Lost? They killed her the first season. They kept touting they were going to kill someone all season so they killed her only deciding to keep her around and string the audience along longer until another cast member bit it for real.

Count me in as one who doesn't care. It is a plot driven show, not a character study. How much character development do you want in a 24 hour time span anyway? The only character that is untouchable is Jack. There would be no show without him. They have shown time and time again since the first season that no character is safe. How is this news? Who cares when they change it as long as they pull some riviting tv from it?

If anything this proves the writers/producers can change things at will and make them work, unbeknownst to the audience... until two years after the fact. :)

Spock's death was leaked well before Trek II hit theaters. So they had him "fake die" in the opening scene.

Dude, just get on the coaster and enjoy the ride.

Why not? What's wrong with that?

I guess movies shouldn't have test screenings either. :shrug:

You do realize that they still write it as they go along. So changes made during mid season are a given to reflect what is working and not working in the show. Learn to deal with it.

Using the logic this thread presents, I read somewhere that Claire on Lost was going to live a LONG, fruitful life..

Is that a fact? I wonder how the shooting schedule is, because to my knowledge, 24 doesn't take breaks during it's seasons.

Do you have any examples of your statement?

they don't wait until episodes air to decide if storylines are "working" yet or not. i believe that once a season starts airing, the 24 cast and crew are about halfway through shooting the season. by that time a number of episodes have been assembled, if not finished.

I'd take the shock value of 24 over Lost's constant teasing and cop-outs any day of the week. Granted, I like Lost, but they tease us way too much and have not really shown the willingness to go that extra step. If the show's not about going the extra step, stop teasing us with it. The deaths of Boone and Shannon don't count, either, because they were dull, highly unliked characters on the show. At least with 24 you can feel something when the characters die off, and that adds an important layer that is missing from Lost. And I'm quite sure that Lost's writers do the same thing - write a lot of stuff as they go along.

Its a great show, do you know how hard it is to write in real time.

im sure the writers change the script eveyrtime they see a spoiler posted online

man, if you think the writing is crazy now, I just read that they intend to have Mulder & Scully make appearances some time this season as well. it had something to do with the fact that Cancer Man was pulling everyones strings.

The first season was only plotted out until episode 12. Once the show was picked up for the full season, they wrote the rest of the season.

Seasons 2 and 3 (maybe 4) were written in 8-episode blocks. That's why episodes 8 and 16 had story climaxes.

This season they specifically plotted the first 2 hours to make a mini-movie.

All of this was picked up from print and online interviews with Howard Gordon and writers of the show.

Kiefer Sutherland has mentioned in past interviews that at some points they were still shooting episodes while later ones were being written.

As for the big death last night, Howard Gordon stated in a recent interview that the episode was filmed back in December, so that was before the first episode of the season aired, but it also means that they were still writing and filming the latter half of the season as the first few episodes aired.

I know that the writers of Lost have yet to learn to make each and every episode exciting. Each episode doesn't need to have something shocking in it, but it does need to advance the story along each and every week. Usually a shocking event leads to continous advancement of the story and it seems to hook viewers in.

Thanks MovieExchange.

I didn't know it was planned that Chase was ever going to die

;)

:D

Not to go too much off topice, but I think you are incorrect here. This character was eliminated when the actress demanded more screen time, bigger storylines and more money. Plus she was supposedly a bitch so they killed her character off.

The bit about Chase is rather unnerving considering we were just told that he basically dumped Kim and is no longer on the show - being essentially replaced by a VERY worn-down looking C. Thomas Howell.

During Season 4 one of the cell phone numbers was an actual non-555 number. Some people called it and actually got through to the set and talked to crew who said they were filming like the 15th episode (the 3rd or 4th being the one with the number)

Yeah, Shannon isnt killed in Lost Season 1 but Boone is (I didnt like Shannon much either BTW, she's fit but a bit of an empty-headed, vacuous bitch overall IMO).

*YAWN* NO one cares 24 ratings up 14% from last season.

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