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Old 09-19-06 | 12:14 PM
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Well I can see that, but then how come the flashbacks matched what played out in the woods? I don't recall anything "less" happening.
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In his flashback, his father punches Annie, she falls, and he starts kicking her. Also, during the confrontation with his father, Sam says he remembers that his father just kept kicking and kicking....it sounded brutal. In the episode, Sam steps in just after his father hits Annie, so she isn't kicked repeatedly like Sam remembers.
Old 12-27-06 | 10:04 AM
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Well it appears series 2 will be the finale series. I enjoyed the first series and found it very original, so I'm a bit sad to hear that series 2 will be the end. However, I greatly respect their sense that the story needs closure and that they do not want to milk the property to death before they can achieve that goal. However, I think 3 would have been good.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/lifeonmars/series2.shtml
Old 12-27-06 | 10:07 AM
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I caught the 1st 3-4 episodes of season 1 this past summer and enjoyed it, but as fall approached and after heading on summer vacation overseas for 2 weeks, I didn't have time to catch up. How was season 1?
Old 12-27-06 | 10:14 AM
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Season One was okay, I thought. It felt too episodic too me. I think there were certain elements that were introduced suddenly in the finale that would have had more weight if they'd been part of a longer story arc.

Knowing that they're going to end it in Season Two peaks my interest, so I'll give it a whirl.
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Do I need to go back and read what you felt was rushed, or did you not address that in the thread? I'd be interested to know.
Old 01-02-07 | 03:43 AM
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Just finished watching all 8 episodes. I also thought there would be more of a sci-fi time travel element to the story and was slightly disappointed that it's more of a cop drama although it was done well. I did enjoy the look and feel of UK in the 70's especially the music. Looking forward to see how they wrap everything up in series 2.
Old 01-02-07 | 07:11 AM
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They played the final episode of season one last night on Showcase here in Canada. I taped it to watch it again, since it's been awhile since I saw it originally. From what I remember, I enjoyed it, but I needed another viewing to fully grasp everything that happened.

I noticed that you can already preorder Series 2 on Amazon.co.uk. I was ready to place an order for this and the first couple of seasons of Spooks until Amazon.co.uk jacked up the price of one of the Spooks seasons from about £11 to over £33. What's up with that? It has since dropped again though, so I am contemplating an order.
Old 01-02-07 | 05:56 PM
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They played the final episode of season one last night on Showcase here in Canada. I taped it to watch it again, since it's been awhile since I saw it originally. From what I remember, I enjoyed it, but I needed another viewing to fully grasp everything that happened.

I noticed that you can already preorder Series 2 on Amazon.co.uk. I was ready to place an order for this and the first couple of seasons of Spooks until Amazon.co.uk jacked up the price of one of the Spooks seasons from about £11 to over £33. What's up with that? It has since dropped again though, so I am contemplating an order.
I noticed they tend to jack up the prices on TV shows that have a good amount of popularity in the US and are probably being exported more to the US. I got Spooks season one pretty cheap, but after it became popular over here with the region free crowd, and also got A & E to air episodes, the prices on season two on went up.

Right now Life On Mars season two is £25.99, or there abouts. That's damn near fifty bucks after conversion rates. I am hoping it goes down in price.
Old 01-02-07 | 09:17 PM
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How soon after a series airs over there are the dvds released? I notice series 2 is marked as April, but I haven't even heard anything about series 2 on BBCA. Did I just happen to miss a commercial or press release on BBCA broadcasts?
Old 01-03-07 | 08:17 AM
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How soon after a series airs over there are the dvds released? I notice series 2 is marked as April, but I haven't even heard anything about series 2 on BBCA. Did I just happen to miss a commercial or press release on BBCA broadcasts?
It depends, but BBC turnaround is usually pretty quick, on the order of a couple of months (sometime shorter). The American broadcast doesn't really have anything to do with it.
Old 01-13-07 | 05:16 AM
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Hey,

I didnt realise this thread was active Has S1 been on BBC America by now?
I got S1 for Christmas so have been rewatching the DVD, S2 is supposed to start in Britain around Feb.

For the ending to S2, I hope they don't do the Wizard of Oz "It was a dream" thing. That would be too easy, and disappointing.
There are some "Oz" references, and spaghetti Western ones as well in the series, its an interesting mix of styles. I've heard clues from some people, maybe Sam is actually dead, and 1973 is purgatory.
Old 01-13-07 | 05:34 AM
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I'm 6 episodes in now I do like it, love the guv. he's great.

could do without the bbc2 telly girl with the doll, that's freaky.
Agreed, Test Card Girl is pretty spooky. It's supposed to be Carol Hersee (sp?).
Test Card F made its debut in 1967 and was shown on BBC TV until quite recently (up until a few years ago).

I found the show to be The Sweeney meets Back To The Future/Quantum Leap. According to the writers, at its heart the show is a retro cop show, but the time travel plot adds a new element. I love the mix of cop show with the chalk and cheese team of Sam and Gene, humour, and time travel/thriller/mystery elements. Great.

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In the episode where Sam met his mum why doesnt she act surprised when he tells her "Sammy" (his four year old self) likes his custard with the skin on? Why doesnt he tell her he's from 2006?

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Old 02-14-07 | 12:31 PM
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Hey,

I should of revealed this before - but Season 2 just began on Tuesday 13 Feb in the UK, with the 1st episode on BBC1 and the next episode following on BBC4 (UK digital channel). Both were IMO very good episodes

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I found the phonecall Sam got from "Hyde" in Episode 2 really interesting and cryptic - "the jobs almost done, if they know why you're here you can never go back" - what does that mean?
Old 02-14-07 | 01:17 PM
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I'm just grabbing them now, I came in here to bump this thread, this is the final season right, they are ending it at the end of this.
Old 02-15-07 | 04:41 AM
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Yes, this is the final season of LOM, though there is alleged to be a spin-off series set in the 80's called Ashes To Ashes happening at some point.
Maybe that will be with the Gene Hunt character.

This won't happen but it would be cool if they made one episode/series where Gene Hunt is transported to 2007 with (or without) Sam
Old 02-15-07 | 07:32 AM
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Yeah, I was going to post I heard a commercial for this on Radio1 last week but didn't get around to it.

Hope to see this on BBCA soon....speaking of which, will have to start a new thread for the Robin Hood series. I hear that is good as well.
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Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I was just wondering when the second series was starting.
Old 02-15-07 | 11:19 AM
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speaking of which, will have to start a new thread for the Robin Hood series. I hear that is good as well.
I really wanted to love the new Robin Hood. And I do *like* it enough to watch S2. But it has really lowered the literacy bar for a BBC series--it's strictly a no-brainer action series ala Hercules/Xena. There's not a single character you could legitimately call 3-dimentional; just cardboard heroes and villians. Rousing and fun nonetheless, but not as well-written as you'd expect.

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Old 03-16-07 | 05:31 AM
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Has anyone seen Episodes 3 and 4 yet?
Old 04-05-07 | 12:11 PM
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Update for BBCA viewers. I received the following response to my inquiry:

Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We're delighted to hear you've
been enjoying "Life on Mars." You'll be pleased to know that BBC America
plans to return to 1973 with Sam Tyler for a second season of "Life on
Mars," although at this time, we are unable to provide specific scheduling
information. We encourage you to check with the 'TV Schedule' page on our
website, BBCAmerica.com/tvschedule.jsp, occasionally for schedule updates.

We thank you again for your continued dedication to "Life on Mars."

Regards,
Viewer Relations
BBC America
Old 04-09-07 | 02:55 PM
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How many episodes are there going to be in the second season?
Old 04-09-07 | 03:08 PM
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How many episodes are there going to be in the second season?
Just 8, which means the series finale is tomorrow night, in the UK!

Can't wait to see this, but I'm disappointed that there won't be more. Hopefully the rumoured spin-off series will be even half as good. I'd say the second series has been pretty much on par with the first, with maybe a very slight nod to the first.
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What did you think of the last Episode (if anyone has seen it)?
There's still some things I can't quite work out
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We should have seen more of Sam in 2007 IMO and more reasons why he was unhappy (he had a bad time with Maya? Big freakin' deal!) Why did he return to work so fast after "waking up" - a sign that 2007 was the illusion?


I really enjoyed it though, John Simm's acting was outstanding.
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http://blogs.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ianwylie/life_on_mars/

See here for "the answers"!

WAS he mad, in a coma or back in time? Millions of viewers saw the stunning finale to Life On Mars last night at the end of a two-year TV rollercoaster ride.

Speaking for the first time about both the conclusion to the BBC1 drama and the new spin-off series, co-creator Matthew Graham revealed it was all about Sam In Wonderland.

First, the good news. It was already known that Philip Glenister would return to the role of DCI Gene Hunt in Ashes To Ashes, set in 1981 London.

Now it can be confirmed that filming begins this summer, when the Gene Genie will be joined by DS Ray Carling (Dean Andrews) and DC Chris Skelton (Marshall Lancaster), with all three transferred from North West District CID to the Metropolitan Police. It's due on screen next year.

Aside from Eighties' fashions, Gene will also have to cope with a sexy new female sidekick, DCI Alex Drake, who has yet to be cast. After an accident in 2008, the no-nonsense detective finds herself back in time, interacting with characters she'd previously read about in reports logged by a certain Sam Tyler.

"We like to say it's Moonlighting meets Miami Vice with a smattering of Howard's Way," laughed Matthew. Gene will also swap his Ford Cortina for the original Audi Quattro. "We've already coined Gene's new catchphrase, which is, `Ray, fire up the Quattro!'

So, why the switch to London? "We felt like we had to really change things, make it look different and feel different. And it's really hard in Manchester. We've used a lot of the locations."

But how do you follow a drama as brilliant and loved as the two series of Life On Mars? "I was unsure about the whole idea. I thought we were milking the cash cow - until I started writing.

"We had story conferences where brilliant ideas were thrown around and we got very excited. But still lurking at the back of my mind was that feeling, `Is this right? Shouldn't we just be leaving it now?' And then I started writing it and the world sprung into my head. It felt so clear what we were trying to do.

"It's going to feel like Life On Mars but bigger and with a real sexual chemistry between the two leads."

Which brings us to that ending, which saw Sam (John Simm) waking up from his "sunken dream" coma back in the modern day, where he struggled to feel alive.
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Viewers later saw him jump from the roof of his Manchester police HQ, back into 1973, where he saved the lives of Gene and the rest of his A-Division colleagues, and finally agreed to stay forever with Annie (Liz White) before the team drove off in the Cortina towards a rainbow.

It was the ending that Matthew and his co-creators had planned from the very start.

"It was much more important that there was a strong emotional closure to the story. That was more important than a massive twist.

"I was always slightly surprised that people thought there was a genuine mystery. To me, it was obvious - he got hit by a car, the doctors and nurses were speaking to him over the radio and through the television and he was in a coma. The fact is that he began to suspect there seemed to be a way in which he could change his world - once he's there for a period of time, he begins to assimilate so much of that world into himself. He starts to question whether he was ever anywhere else.

"But I never thought the audience would fall for that. But then we realised we had to start being a little bit more careful about saying definitively that he was in a coma.
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When it came to writing him waking up, I just couldn't bear him staying in 2007. I just wanted him to go back.

"But it was a tough one, because we had to persuade the BBC that the main character of this hit show should commit suicide. There was a certain reservation, initially, because, obviously, Sam has a big following."

The "false ending" where Sam jumps got a huge round of applause when the final episode was premiered at BAFTA in London. "That amazed me, that people saw it as such a positive act."

Matthew added: "It's not supposed to be a searing indictment on modern society, but more a comment on Sam.

"He was a deeply repressed human being - I don't think 2006 or 2007 brought out the best in Sam. When he went to sleep, he wanted to be in a freer place, a place where his mother was a young, beautiful woman and his dad was his hero, and it was a world of fast cars - that was his liberation."
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Whatever Matthew intended, fans have taken ownership of Life On Mars, and the ending, with Sam back in 1973, can be viewed in different ways. Simm, himself, believes his character may not even have returned to the modern day. It depends on what you want to believe.

"I think it does," agrees Matthew. "The truth is, when I wrote it, what I was trying to say is that's he's died, and that for however long that last second of life is going to be, it will stretch out for an age, as an eternity for him. And, so, when he drives off in that car, he's really driving off into the afterlife."

Life On Mars was more than just a hit drama. It made a real emotional connection with its audience.

"People love to watch those characters. They feel a great affection for them and, ultimately, it's not a cop show and it's not a time travel show, it's Alice In Wonderland, that's what it is.

"And that template of a journeyman, going through the looking glass into a magical world is an archetypal story. It's the fantasy journey."

John Simm made clear last year that he would not be appearing in the spin-off and there are no plans to involve him. So is this the last we'll see of Sam Tyler, happy in 1973 cop heaven? Matthew's not sure. "You shouldn't write him off completely. You never know with Life On Mars."
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So was he dead or wasn't he?


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