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Old 12-02-05 | 12:53 PM
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ABC won't get a cut of the DVD revenue. DVD revenues go to the show's producers -- in this case, Fox and Imagine Entertainment. That's one reason I'm not uncrossing my fingers just yet. If this show wasn't profitable for Fox, it's going to be that much harder for ABC to make it profitable.

that's too bad. the dvd sales must have been great lately and I was hoping that would be it's biggest selling point. Fox did give it a pretty fair shake. Most people aren't smart enough to appreciate a show like this. Oh well.....
Old 12-02-05 | 01:07 PM
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As long as it doesn't go to HBO (since I don't have it).
I don't have it either, but if AD moved there I would subscribe faster then you could say "I've made a huge mistake."
Old 12-02-05 | 01:23 PM
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I don't have it either, but if AD moved there I would subscribe faster then you could say "I've made a huge mistake."
Same here. HD and no commercials? I'm there.
Old 12-02-05 | 01:30 PM
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If original... 5/5



I hope they can get a guest spot from Keifer Shuterland.
I don't think he'll have time to do 2 TV shows, while doing all those films.
Old 12-02-05 | 01:42 PM
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I can't imagine ABC picking this up. As much as people bitch about Fox cancelling good shows, ABC is the absolute worst to great tv shows. Of course, the biggest reason for that is that unlike NBC and CBS, ABC and Fox actually greenlight really good shows in the first place.

Also, the more successful a network is, the less likely they are to take chances and ABC is doing quite well right now.
Old 12-02-05 | 02:01 PM
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I don't think he'll have time to do 2 TV shows, while doing all those films.
I wish we had a smiley where the guy runs his hand over his head as to intimate that the guy totally didn't get the point of the post.
Old 12-02-05 | 02:28 PM
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They should trade AD for My Name is Earl.

It's always weird seeing that Fox logo after Earl
Old 12-02-05 | 03:47 PM
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I'll believe it when I see. Other networks picking up cancelled shows is extremely rare.
But it's not unknown to happen. Grounded For Life. Family Matters.

I'd like to see it on NBC, which is currently the reigning single-camera comedy king of the networks. How's this for a line-up to prove my claim:

Scrubs
Arrested Development
The Office
My Name Is Earl

You know I'm right.
Old 12-02-05 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dogmatica
Scrubs
Arrested Development
The Office
My Name Is Earl

You know I'm right.
Since Office and Earl are doing well for NBC now, I'd rather them bookend this fantasy 2-hour block to help the "weaker" shows against the hour-long powerhouses.

My Name Is Earl
Arrested Development
Scrubs
The Office
Old 12-02-05 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dogmatica
But it's not unknown to happen. Grounded For Life. Family Matters.

I'd like to see it on NBC, which is currently the reigning single-camera comedy king of the networks. How's this for a line-up to prove my claim:

Scrubs
Arrested Development
The Office
My Name Is Earl

You know I'm right.
That's where I heard it was moving. They'll retool Thursdays by moving or getting rid of Joey, and having Scrubs/Office/My Name is Earl and some new show, Four Kings. Then AD can go there for the fall, and bam NBC comedy ORGY
Old 12-02-05 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DerangedHermit
That's where I heard it was moving. They'll retool Thursdays by moving or getting rid of Joey, and having Scrubs/Office/My Name is Earl and some new show, Four Kings. Then AD can go there for the fall, and bam NBC comedy ORGY
The problem is that NBC is already propping up Scrubs and The Office. They can't afford another loved but unwatched comedy. ABC probably can afford to prop one up for the prestige even if it does lose them a little money. That's why I think ABC is in play but NBC couldn't possibly be.
Old 12-02-05 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pinata242
Since Office and Earl are doing well for NBC now, I'd rather them bookend this fantasy 2-hour block to help the "weaker" shows against the hour-long powerhouses.

My Name Is Earl
Arrested Development
Scrubs
The Office
Old 12-02-05 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dogmatica
But it's not unknown to happen. Grounded For Life. Family Matters.
JAG. Step By Step. The Outer Limits. Stargate SG-1. Buffy: The Vampire Slayer.

Old 12-02-05 | 06:04 PM
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But it's not unknown to happen. Grounded For Life. Family Matters.

Which is why I said "extremely rare."
Old 12-02-05 | 06:20 PM
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If there is this much interest already they have time to wrap up plotlines and do a sort of reboot for the new network to allow them to gain new viewership. I'm sure the fans can handle that if the show survives.

I still say the Simpsons arguement is bullshit. It is a friggin cartoon. Who cares what ratings it draws. It isn't a good pairing. And what was with them sandwhiching it between two cartoons last year. That was a solid executive decision.

Good news though.
Old 12-02-05 | 07:01 PM
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Kick ass internview with Alia Shawkat: http://www.brianmpalmer.com/aliashawkat.htm

Here is a little snippit:

Do you hold FOX accountable for what's going on?

I do, definitely. In my opinion FOX is known for being a network that just advertises, and that's pretty much how they get their viewers. Like with "The OC" and shows like that, there's billboards every 5 feet you go in LA. And with our show, the actual excuse for not publicizing us was, "We don't think it's going to help that kind of show." I don't see how getting the name out there is going to hurt our show with the ratings. A lot of people don't know about it, and if they do, they only see 1 episode, so they get confused. FOX needs to be showing marathons and re-runs so that people who haven't seen it can watch the whole first season and the second season. But they refuse. They think that we just have to do it on our own, and supposedly get 20 million people in one viewing, and no one's even heard of the show. So I don't really think that FOX is the best network for the show
Old 12-02-05 | 09:02 PM
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Burning bridges at quite an early age, don't ya say?
Old 12-02-05 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Burning bridges at quite an early age, don't ya say?
I'm sure everyone who has been fucked over by Fox sooner or later burns their bridges over there.
Old 12-02-05 | 10:17 PM
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right, we can blame fox for the lack of advertising (was it mentioned even once during the baseball playoffs?), but not for keeping a show on the air long past what it's ratings deemed appropriate.

so we can and can't blame fox.
Old 12-02-05 | 10:19 PM
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Given the success of My Name Is Earl this year after that ad blitz, I think the kid has a point. By the same token, Fox wasn't in the place NBC now is -- they didn't have reason to pull out the stops that way for AD or any other show.
Old 12-03-05 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
Kick ass internview with Alia Shawkat: http://www.brianmpalmer.com/aliashawkat.htm

Here is a little snippit:

Do you hold FOX accountable for what's going on?

I do, definitely. In my opinion FOX is known for being a network that just advertises, and that's pretty much how they get their viewers. Like with "The OC" and shows like that, there's billboards every 5 feet you go in LA. And with our show, the actual excuse for not publicizing us was, "We don't think it's going to help that kind of show." I don't see how getting the name out there is going to hurt our show with the ratings. A lot of people don't know about it, and if they do, they only see 1 episode, so they get confused. FOX needs to be showing marathons and re-runs so that people who haven't seen it can watch the whole first season and the second season. But they refuse. They think that we just have to do it on our own, and supposedly get 20 million people in one viewing, and no one's even heard of the show. So I don't really think that FOX is the best network for the show
I hope all the jagoffs on this board who say Fox has done everything they can for this show click that link and read the whole interview. Even behind the scenes it seems they don't want the show to succeed.
Old 12-03-05 | 12:46 AM
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I hope all the jagoffs on this board who say Fox has done everything they can for this show click that link and read the whole interview. Even behind the scenes it seems they don't want the show to succeed.
Right, but they renewed it x2.

Jeez -- this bellyaching really ticks me off as a fan of Newsradio, a show that was treated poorly and overcame until we lost Phil.
Old 12-03-05 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dogmatica
Scrubs
Arrested Development
The Office
My Name Is Earl

I would need a change of underpants if that happened
Old 12-03-05 | 02:56 AM
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Yeah, if they started showing that lineup on NBC, I think I would actually sit through Scrubs. I guess I should be watching.
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Originally Posted by dcswirl
I hope all the jagoffs on this board who say Fox has done everything they can for this show click that link and read the whole interview. Even behind the scenes it seems they don't want the show to succeed.
I think any show Fox gets that may be considered good, the executives at the network just decide it doesn't deserve to be on the air. When Judd Apatow was on the press tour for The 40 Year Old Virgin, the major questions getting asked to him involved how he felt about the cancellation of Freaks and Geeks and Undeclared. Now while Apatow had been previously involved with prior Fox shows that were cancelled (The Ben Stiller Show and The Critic -- another show picked up from another network), they promised the guy after NBC's axing of Freaks and Geeks that they would treat Undeclared with respect and they would let him do his own thing.

As the story goes, FOX was always down Apatow's back to make the show more "viewer friendly" and FOX cancelled it after episode 18 (the same episode order that Freaks and Geeks got the axe after). And after Judd would tell the story on the show's cancellation, he would follow it up with, "That's why I'm never going to work in television again."

Similar story could also be applied to Joss Whedon. Fox gave Firefly the shaft since day one and it seems that Whedon isn't going back to television anytime soon. Didn't help that Angel was cancelled the year after either (Fox production that was on The WB)...

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