Arrested Development (Mostly Likely) Will Return
#27
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
You said "this last year" - make up your mind. 
Monday at 8 is not never-never land either. Friday is never-never land. Thursday at 9 vs a powerhouse like CSI is never-never land.

Monday at 8 is not never-never land either. Friday is never-never land. Thursday at 9 vs a powerhouse like CSI is never-never land.
And Monday as a lead in to other shows on FOX is never-never land. The only good nights FOX has are when 24 is on and when American Idol is on.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Last time I checked, this last year would be this year, of which, the show has most recently been on Monday nights.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
And Monday as a lead in to other shows on FOX is never-never land. The only good nights FOX has are when 24 is on and when American Idol is on.
No, it isn't. The competition in the Monday 8 pm slot isn't that fierce. If AD couldn't survive there, it wouldn't survive anywhere unless maybe you stuck it behind AI and FOX doesn't have a duty to do that.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
No, it isn't. The competition in the Monday 8 pm slot isn't that fierce. If AD couldn't survive there, it wouldn't survive anywhere unless maybe you stuck it behind AI and FOX doesn't have a duty to do that.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
I wouldn't call King of Queens and Monday night football exactly chopped liver in terms of ratings. I don't know what NBC usually plays in that spot, so I can't comment on that.
MNF comes on at 9. AD is on at 8.
King of Queens is a shell* of its former self.
*not including Leah Remini who is now a whale.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
MNF comes on at 9. AD is on at 8.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
For the vast majority of the population, it is not on at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Ok, even then. Say AD comes on at 8pm. What shows in your market compete with it?
King of Queens
Wife Swap
Surface
One on One
7th Heaven
This is not what I call stiff competition. The Monday 8 pm slot is probably one of the most benign timeslots from Sunday through Thursday.
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Who even counts the WB/UPN shows?
I won't argue that it's not like going up against Wednesday juggernauts or Thursday's, but if you honestly think that Arrested Development is a good lead in show to anything, you are sorely mistaken.
I won't argue that it's not like going up against Wednesday juggernauts or Thursday's, but if you honestly think that Arrested Development is a good lead in show to anything, you are sorely mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Who even counts the WB/UPN shows?
I won't argue that it's not like going up against Wednesday juggernauts or Thursday's, but if you honestly think that Arrested Development is a good lead in show to anything, you are sorely mistaken.
I won't argue that it's not like going up against Wednesday juggernauts or Thursday's, but if you honestly think that Arrested Development is a good lead in show to anything, you are sorely mistaken.
Well I think 7th Heaven was beating it, so.....

I never said AD served as a good lead-in. Don't know where you got that?
It is obvious that it isn't - look at the ratings. The point is that with a good lead-in, it failed to draw viewers, and when moved to a slot with even less competition, it failed. FOX did everything it could, short of putting it behind AI, to keep it alive.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Well I think 7th Heaven was beating it, so..... 
I never said AD served as a good lead-in. Don't know where you got that?
It is obvious that it isn't - look at the ratings. The point is that with a good lead-in, it failed to draw viewers, and when moved to a slot with even less competition, it failed. FOX did everything it could, short of putting it behind AI, to keep it alive.

I never said AD served as a good lead-in. Don't know where you got that?
It is obvious that it isn't - look at the ratings. The point is that with a good lead-in, it failed to draw viewers, and when moved to a slot with even less competition, it failed. FOX did everything it could, short of putting it behind AI, to keep it alive.
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
FOX did everything it could, short of putting it behind AI, to keep it alive.
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I agree, Red Dog.
Imho, the "never-land" slots of death are opposite a powerhouse, or something like Saturday night. If it needs to be flanked by AI and 24 to succeed on a monday, then it's hard to justify keeping it around. Getting beaten by Seventh Heaven (about a 2.7 rating vs. S.H.'s 3.5) isn't going to cut it when you can almost double your ratings by repeating last week's Prison Break (well, the repeats are scoring in the 4s)...
Imho, the "never-land" slots of death are opposite a powerhouse, or something like Saturday night. If it needs to be flanked by AI and 24 to succeed on a monday, then it's hard to justify keeping it around. Getting beaten by Seventh Heaven (about a 2.7 rating vs. S.H.'s 3.5) isn't going to cut it when you can almost double your ratings by repeating last week's Prison Break (well, the repeats are scoring in the 4s)...
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yeah, I won't hold my breath but any news is good news.
the dvd sales are certainly profitable, right? so maybe someone would pick the show up just based on that revenue even if people aren't still watching it. also, when neilson finally gets their shit together and decides to include dvr and tivo viewers in their ratings then maybe a show like this won't be scrapped for all the doodoo on every night.
the dvd sales are certainly profitable, right? so maybe someone would pick the show up just based on that revenue even if people aren't still watching it. also, when neilson finally gets their shit together and decides to include dvr and tivo viewers in their ratings then maybe a show like this won't be scrapped for all the doodoo on every night.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
I never said it did. But if you look at ABC's schedule (the one rumored network), they have comedies that do well in the ratings. Pairing the show with one of those instead of how Fox just dangled the show out in never-never land as they did this last year, would certainly help the show.
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I could see ABC putting this on Thursday nights with the John Stamos show, while not exactly the same it is closer than anything else ABC has. Maybe this is why ABC is interested, they have no smart comedies and they could probably use something to combat Scrubs, Office and Earl.
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I could see ABC adding a laugh track... 
I actually tried to watch Freddy since I heard good word about theacting hot chick on the show, but man is a laugh track distracting. I laugh way more during Gilmore Girls and House than a "comedy" with a laugh track...

I actually tried to watch Freddy since I heard good word about the
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Originally Posted by dick_grayson
yeah, I won't hold my breath but any news is good news.
the dvd sales are certainly profitable, right? so maybe someone would pick the show up just based on that revenue even if people aren't still watching it. also, when neilson finally gets their shit together and decides to include dvr and tivo viewers in their ratings then maybe a show like this won't be scrapped for all the doodoo on every night.
the dvd sales are certainly profitable, right? so maybe someone would pick the show up just based on that revenue even if people aren't still watching it. also, when neilson finally gets their shit together and decides to include dvr and tivo viewers in their ratings then maybe a show like this won't be scrapped for all the doodoo on every night.



