Mr. Sulu steps out of the closet
10-28-05, 09:09 AM
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Well good for George Takai! 
I always suspected anyway (no wife or kids at 60+) and he bravely came out of the closet.
Hollywood is populated with gay people, but many of them are in denial as if their careers would be ruined if their "unconventional" sex lives are exposed.
Why is it in Europe, nobody gives a f**k about an actor's sexual orientation?
I always suspected anyway (no wife or kids at 60+) and he bravely came out of the closet.
Hollywood is populated with gay people, but many of them are in denial as if their careers would be ruined if their "unconventional" sex lives are exposed.
Why is it in Europe, nobody gives a f**k about an actor's sexual orientation?
10-28-05, 09:10 AM
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I'm still not buyin' that one adamblast. Male or Female I think now in America is a great time to be out in the Biz. Can any male actor who has come out HONESTLY say it has hurt their career? Even when actors are -Rumored- to be gay most people simply don't give a shit and just want to see them do well in good movies. Gay Actors from Europe have huge fanbases here and no one cares about their being gay. Look at Ian McKellan, Rupert Everett, Alan Cummings, just to name a successful few. They all do just fine here and again, no one cares about them being Openly Gay.
I still say Rob Halford of Judas Priest has more guts than any Actor in Hollywood coming out because he came out in world of Heavy Metal where the Males are far less forgiving when it comes to -ANY- kind of change. But you know what? He didn't lose any fans because he's awesome and everyone knows it. We stuck by him. In fact, according to him, the real surprise was THE LACK of support form the Gay Community. He said he was expecting them to embrace him but they didn't. He says the music genre probably had a lot to do with that lack of support.
But I guess if they want to play victim, like Ellen did when she blamed Homophobia for her crap show getting canned, then I guess we wait a little longer for progress in the area of Gay issues in this country....
I still say Rob Halford of Judas Priest has more guts than any Actor in Hollywood coming out because he came out in world of Heavy Metal where the Males are far less forgiving when it comes to -ANY- kind of change. But you know what? He didn't lose any fans because he's awesome and everyone knows it. We stuck by him. In fact, according to him, the real surprise was THE LACK of support form the Gay Community. He said he was expecting them to embrace him but they didn't. He says the music genre probably had a lot to do with that lack of support.
But I guess if they want to play victim, like Ellen did when she blamed Homophobia for her crap show getting canned, then I guess we wait a little longer for progress in the area of Gay issues in this country....
And I had absolutely no idea about George Takai, but I haven't really followed his career since Star Trek.
10-28-05, 09:19 AM
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Hollywood is populated by homosexuals and it is also populated by Jews as well, but Jewish people are more open about their cultural identity than gay people are about their private sex lives. I assume homophobia is still a major issue in America.
I guess homosexuals hiding in the closet in Hollywood now is comparable to Jews hiding their religious roots in Hollywood during the 1920s and 1950s.
I guess homosexuals hiding in the closet in Hollywood now is comparable to Jews hiding their religious roots in Hollywood during the 1920s and 1950s.
10-28-05, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cancer Man
Hollywood is populated by homosexuals and it is also populated by Jews as well, but Jewish people are more open about their cultural identity than gay people are about their private sex lives. I assume homophobia is still a major issue in America.
10-28-05, 09:35 AM
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Not really, what are you talking about? There are many kinds of people in Hollywood from many kinds of cultural or religious backgrounds. Who cares where they came from?
I'm just saying that some people, for what ever personal reasons, hid their identity so that they were "accepted" by American society in the 1920s/30s. I don't care about that, but some people at the time obviously did.
I'm just saying that some people, for what ever personal reasons, hid their identity so that they were "accepted" by American society in the 1920s/30s. I don't care about that, but some people at the time obviously did.
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10-28-05, 09:42 AM
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I never gave Takai's possible sexual orientation any thought, but I have to admit that for some reason I wasn't at all surprised when I heard the news.
10-28-05, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cancer Man
Why is it in Europe, nobody gives a f**k about an actor's sexual orientation?
10-28-05, 10:19 AM
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Giantrobo-- All the actors you mentioned are the exact same ones I was thinking of when I said it's much more acceptable in the UK than in Hollywood. Among gay men in Hollywood, the thinking seems to be: if I can be even marginally more successful lying or avoiding the issue, it's worth it. It's all about the career and the bottom line.
I'd say the the case of Sean Hayes is the perfect textbook example. He's been playing gay characters his whole career, and everyone more-or-less knows the truth about him, but he still thinks he improves his castability by refusing to admit he's really gay in interviews. Jerk. What he's really doing is helping to maintain and build the walls of shame and discrimination.
How about Nathan Lane? You think he's out of the closet? He may have been "out" before he hit it big--just like Anderson Cooper of CNN--but today he plays it coy instead of actually being out: I'm single, I'm over 40, and I work in Musical Theatre. You do the math. He makes a joke out of it and deflects the issue, and is only willing to help on gay rights issues behind the scenes. *That's* the current state of Hollywood. Open secrets, when not outright lying, and a denial that there are any social and political repercussions to the decision to hide.
I'd say the the case of Sean Hayes is the perfect textbook example. He's been playing gay characters his whole career, and everyone more-or-less knows the truth about him, but he still thinks he improves his castability by refusing to admit he's really gay in interviews. Jerk. What he's really doing is helping to maintain and build the walls of shame and discrimination.
How about Nathan Lane? You think he's out of the closet? He may have been "out" before he hit it big--just like Anderson Cooper of CNN--but today he plays it coy instead of actually being out: I'm single, I'm over 40, and I work in Musical Theatre. You do the math. He makes a joke out of it and deflects the issue, and is only willing to help on gay rights issues behind the scenes. *That's* the current state of Hollywood. Open secrets, when not outright lying, and a denial that there are any social and political repercussions to the decision to hide.
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10-28-05, 10:21 AM
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Serious question: Is it national coming out week or something? Why are so many people coming out recently?
10-28-05, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by raven56706
Just announced: Ozzie Guillen is gay too...... That kiss after the World Series win confirms it
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10-28-05, 10:46 AM
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I'd say the the case of Sean Hayes is the perfect textbook example. He's been playing gay characters his whole career, and everyone more-or-less knows the truth about him, but he still thinks he improves his castability by refusing to admit he's really gay in interviews. Jerk. What he's really doing is helping to maintain and build the walls of shame and discrimination.
How about Nathan Lane? You think he's out of the closet? He may have been "out" before he hit it big--just like Anderson Cooper of CNN--but today he plays it coy instead of actually being out
10-28-05, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cancer Man
Why is it in Europe, nobody gives a f**k about an actor's sexual orientation?
10-28-05, 11:41 AM
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Agreed about Nathan Lane. He's seems to make it a point to play super-straight roles (such as an over-the-top womanizer in "The Producers.")
10-28-05, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Lane has been "out of the closet" for years...in fact, I don't even think he was IN the closet at any point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Lane
If that's worth anything.
10-28-05, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by raven56706
Set phasers on stunned.......
too much time in out space with all that crew.....
too much time in out space with all that crew.....
10-28-05, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Morf
Ok, I could have sworn that Takei came out years ago. I read the news story and was like "Yeah, and...?" I've known it for years.