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Morf 10-13-05 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
His manager at the chicken restaraunt

Wrong. It was the cashier/owner of the "Kwik E Mart" where Hugo bought the winning lotto ticket.

Michael Corvin 10-13-05 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by treszoks
I liked this episode. There wasn't a whole lot of "what does that mean?" It was pretty straight forward and ended on a good note.

I agree. We haven't had one of those since about halfway through season 1.


Originally Posted by madara
A nice quiet episode. I enjoyed it, the acting and interaction were a step up from the last few. I suppose though since there was not much action or revelations there will be 8 pages of complaints.

Exactly. This was just straight drama. It was a nice change of pace seeing the rest of the cast. After 3 episodes this season you would think there were only 6 people left. I was glad to see Charlie, Clare, Sun, Shannon, & more Hurly.

There wasn't anything sub-par about this episode at all. The acting was top notch. The character development was a nice change of pace. Loved the call back to the peanut butter(that was my favorite scene of the first season). The Rose & Bernard story was excellent as well. Her saving the candybar for her sweet toothed husband was very touching. Hugo asking out the girl he was crushing on just to see if she liked him for who he is before she finds out he is rich was a great idea. Loved the feast at the end as well. Great solution.

I believe the "others" are in a different Dharma station that is NOT connected to the first station that Jack & Locke occupy. Possibly another island, haven't made my mind up on that just yet.

As for Michelle's character, I like it. Sawyer has met his match. No one stood up to him before. Kate did to an extent, but Ana owns him. :lol:


Originally Posted by achau9598
Anyone else think that the 2nd group may have eaten the others? I said to my wife - crap, now they have to deal with cannibals. I doubt that is the case.

And the black/white connection continues with Rose/Bernard.

Not after a month. I think they are/were sick with what Danielle was worried about. Can't believe no one mentioned that yet. Bernard looked pretty haggard to me, possibly sick.

maxfisher 10-13-05 08:21 AM

I'm going to be in the minority and say that so far I've found this season to be disappointing, with last night's episode being the most underwhelming. And no, it's not that they're not revealing enough. Plot-wise, I think they're doing a fine job of moving things along. It's the character side of things that feels off to me. Last season, even when the plot would get horribly drug out and full of teases, it was a very enjoyable show because you nearly always learned some interesting things about the characters. While the plot's moving at a more satisfying pace this season, it seems like it's come at the cost of the character side of show. Some random complaints:

1) Locke's hatch-induced breakdown. Him losing it once they got inside the hatch, crying and telling Jack that he 'couldn't do this alone' just seemed silly. That episode made him out to be an emotionally unstable guy who needs other people's approval and validation. Based on how the guy behaved the whole first season, and even the first episode of this season, I just didn't buy any of that. The guy's basically been a loaner/quasi-leader throughout, who just does what he wants and doesn't care what anyone thinks. His episode felt like they cheated just to give him a moment to show emotion.

2) Jack's insanity post-hatch. Ok, I can see him flipping out a bit as his rational mindset tries to make sense of what they've found and running into Desmond. But he really went over the top, i.e. charging into the woods and holding the guy at gunpoint? Plus, I understand they're going for the science vs. faith thing with him and Locke, but they'd written him to be a pretty smart guy. His first reactions to the hatch felt like an irrational I-have-to-disagree-100%-with-anything-Locke-believes reaction rather than the logical, let's-figure-out-what-the-fuck's-going-on reaction I'd expect him to have.

3) Boring/irrelevant flashbacks. Jack's flashback showed us info we already knew, with the only new thing of note being that he ran into Desmond pre-island. Michael's flashback revealed a little more information, but not much. Locke's was probably the best flashback so far. In the first season, the flashbacks, especially the best ones, always either presented us with information on the character's personality before the crash or revealed significant new details about their life pre-island. Of the three mentioned above, only Locke's really did this. Which brings us to last night's episode... What new information did we learn about Hurley? We already knew he won the lottery, quit his job and felt like winning was a curse. I can kind of see what they were going for in showing how his experience with the lottery was informing his thought processes with the food stores, but his flashbacks still failed to present any new information about the character. As soon they used the same footage from last season's flashback of him seeing the winning numbers, everyone I was watching it with audibly groaned. If they're re-using footage to show us events from different perspectives, like they did with Desmond having a gun on Locke, fine, that can work. But to use the same footage from a previous flashback and then to not show us any different perspective on the character or events? It just felt lazy.

Anyway, I'm not giving up on the show as it's still interesting plot-wise, but I'm caring less and less about the characters. I'm hoping the show's writers just felt like they had to overcome the monumental task of revealing some big island plot-points, temporarily let their writing on the characters suffer because of it, and will quickly get back to the quality we're used to from last season now that a bunch of the reveals have been taken care of.

Snowmaker 10-13-05 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Damed

What the ...?

rfduncan 10-13-05 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by tgenius
If you ever watched Angel.. you would know that Jin, Bernard were part of Wolfram and Hart... :)

I thought that was interesting too... a second cast pairing from a previous show. Michael/Augustus Hill (Harold Perrineau) and tough-big-black-guard-man-with-accent/Simon Adebisi (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) from OZ.

I enjoyed this episode. I found the ending very touching knowing that Bernard is still alive and Rose's unwavering faith in believing he is alive. Now both Jin and Bernard have a common bond - a drive to return to their spouses.

Sun burying the bottle is going to be planting a seed for something to come later.

Anyone notice the "evil numbers" mentioned in this episode? 23 suvivors in the second camp and 42 in the main camp. Those are the last two numbers in the sequence. -eek-

Judremy 10-13-05 08:28 AM

Things I learned tonight:

1) 3rd Dharma symbol (swan, sphere (on shark), square/cross (new survivors).

2) They are on the same island. The reason the main group never ran into the others (except possibly Ethan) is due to the fact that these guys have been fighting them the whole time.

3) My wife says Boone was in the Chicken suit. Who was it? Anyone know for sure?

Groucho 10-13-05 08:29 AM

Jin speaking English would have been a nice surprise...if people on this forum hadn't spoiled it for everybody by posting about it without tags.

Expect most of the rest of the season to be character-driven episodes like this one, with very little forwarding of the island plot. Then, in the last few episodes they'll notch it up again. That's my prediction anyway.

zaroff1 10-13-05 08:31 AM

Has this link been posted?

http://bigspaceship1.org

Which contains this in the source...

The Hanso Foundation,The Hanso Life Extension Project,The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative,The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence,The Hanso Mathmatical Forecasting Initiative,The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative,The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute,The Hanso Remote Viewing Training Facility,Dharma Initiative,Alvar Hanso

Tommy Ceez 10-13-05 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Damed

but have you seen

https://www.thehansofoundation.org ??

Has this link been posted?

http://bigspaceship1.org

Which contains this in the source...

The Hanso Foundation,The Hanso Life Extension Project,The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative,The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence,The Hanso Mathmatical Forecasting Initiative,The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative,The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute,The Hanso Remote Viewing Training Facility,Dharma Initiative,Alvar Hanso
Only 1000x in the last thread

Tommy Ceez 10-13-05 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Linn1
It's a different hatch from another "section" of the project. The question is, why was this one empty? And if it was empty from the beginning, that means no one was there to punch the code. Sooo, could that be why the people on this side are dying? Or is it the others, perhaps they are the owners of another hatch somewhere else?

The training video states that only the swan had the 'incident' and therefore, only the swan needs the code punched.

movieking 10-13-05 08:40 AM

Saw this various places online this morning:

'Lost' star robbed at gunpoint

HONOLULU (AP) - Actor Josh Holloway and his wife reportedly were robbed at gunpoint in their home.

There was no indication that the robber recognized the 36-year-old actor, who plays hunky con man Sawyer on the ABC castaway drama Lost, television station KHON reported. The robber rousted the couple from bed early Wednesday, took cash and credit cards and drove off in Holloway's Mercedes-Benz, which was found abandoned a short time later, the station said.

Honolulu police would not release any information on the robbery.

Holloway's agent did not immediately return a call to her Los Angeles office.

CPA-ESQ. 10-13-05 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
The training video states that only the swan had the 'incident' and therefore, only the swan needs the code punched.

I was just about to bring that up

The SWAN station is the only one that is up to date with some modern technology and food, because it still needs to be manned.

The CROSS station looks like it has been abandoned/raided almost 2 decades ago. There are only 2 auxiliary lights, no furniture, guns, or modern devices.

I would assume that the CROSS station is on another Island possibly 7 miles or so from shore - given that another poster mentioned.. the tail section broke off and the nose of the plane landed on the beach.

RichardW 10-13-05 08:52 AM

I enjoyed this episode since Hurley is one of my favorite characters. I think the cashier recognized him in the car because he's probably been playing the same numbers for awhile. Hurley's also a junk food hound, so he may shop at the store often.

Red Dog 10-13-05 08:57 AM

Great to see Cynthia Watros back on network TV. I still miss Titus though.

Red Dog 10-13-05 08:58 AM

Yeah, she's a hottie. She's made the rounds too in short time - life as we know it, The O.C., and now Lost.

Tommy Ceez 10-13-05 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by RichardW
I enjoyed this episode since Hurley is one of my favorite characters. I think the cashier recognized him in the car because he's probably been playing the same numbers for awhile. Hurley's also a junk food hound, so he may shop at the store often.


True, maybe Hurley's been playing the numbers for a while, and the guy knows them as 'THE USUAL?'

DamingR 10-13-05 09:11 AM

Why would the tail section people dig a huge prison cell? There are only two explanations: they were using it as a quarantine for those who got sick or they are hoping to capture the others.

dadaluholla 10-13-05 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
True, maybe Hurley's been playing the numbers for a while, and the guy knows them as 'THE USUAL?'

I thought he only played the numbers the one time.

RichardW 10-13-05 09:12 AM

That sounds very plausible, DamingR. I was wondering the same thing.

dadaluholla 10-13-05 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by DamingR
Why would the tail section people dig a huge prison cell? There are only two explanations: they were using it as a quarantine for those who got sick or they are hoping to capture the others.

Maybe they didn't dig it, maybe it was already there.

EEz28 10-13-05 09:19 AM

http://homepage.mac.com/marycrist/Lo...MilkCarton.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/marycrist/Lo...kenCostume.jpg


Definately not Boone

TomOpus 10-13-05 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by dadaluholla
I thought he only played the numbers the one time.

I may have to review that flashback but you might be right.

If true, there's no way the convienence store owner/manager would know who bought those numbers.

Maxflier 10-13-05 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
True, maybe Hurley's been playing the numbers for a while, and the guy knows them as 'THE USUAL?'

With the power these numbers seem to have, i doubt he would have had to play them more than once.

Damed 10-13-05 09:29 AM

Man, they put EVERYTHING for this show on the web.

Check out this:

http://www.mrclucks.com/


and check out these:

http://www.mrclucks.com/links.html

dadaluholla 10-13-05 09:30 AM

In the episode where Hurley was telling Jack about the numbers, I think he said somehting like he was in the store getting some food and he just decided to play the numbers and he won. It wasn't something he did a lot.


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