"Evolution Schmevolution: A Daily Show Special Report" 9/12-9/15
09-09-05 | 03:54 PM
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The whole debate between teaching evolution and creation in schools is ridiculous. If there are so many people who think that Intelligent Design should be taught in a science class with/instead of evolution, we should just drop all aspect of each from the curriculum and go back to the basics—the scientific method. We should do a better job teaching the students what science is and what it is not, since apparently a good percentage of the adult population didn't get it when they went through the system. If the students get a good grasp of the concept of a scientific theory and how these theories cannot be proven correct, there's no need to make statements like "now class, not everybody agrees on what I'm about to teach you."
That doesn't mean intelligent design should be banned from schools, it should just be banned from science classrooms. It's a metaphysical concept and should be discussed in philosophy classes (or Sunday school classes).
That doesn't mean intelligent design should be banned from schools, it should just be banned from science classrooms. It's a metaphysical concept and should be discussed in philosophy classes (or Sunday school classes).
09-09-05 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sdcrym
The whole debate between teaching evolution and creation in schools is ridiculous. If there are so many people who think that Intelligent Design should be taught in a science class with/instead of evolution, we should just drop all aspect of each from the curriculum and go back to the basics—the scientific method. We should do a better job teaching the students what science is and what it is not, since apparently a good percentage of the adult population didn't get it when they went through the system. If the students get a good grasp of the concept of a scientific theory and how these theories cannot be proven correct, there's no need to make statements like "now class, not everybody agrees on what I'm about to teach you."
That doesn't mean intelligent design should be banned from schools, it should just be banned from science classrooms. It's a metaphysical concept and should be discussed in philosophy classes (or Sunday school classes).
That doesn't mean intelligent design should be banned from schools, it should just be banned from science classrooms. It's a metaphysical concept and should be discussed in philosophy classes (or Sunday school classes).
09-09-05 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgingCars
I don't expect them to handle it in a balanced way... but I hope that as long as they talk to some knowledgeable/intelligent people on the ID side, that it will at least be interesting.
The thing thats interesting is this is typically said to be an evolution vs. creation debate or an evolution vs ID debate -- yet neither creation nor ID actually dismiss evolution outright -- only that part that suggests that randomness produced the origin of life (and species, for that matter) and challenge it.
ID pretty much exists because (in the proponent's minds), evolution has adopted the secular humanist philosophy.
Michael Behe (kinda the guy who got the ID ball rolling) actually believes in common descent.
The thing thats interesting is this is typically said to be an evolution vs. creation debate or an evolution vs ID debate -- yet neither creation nor ID actually dismiss evolution outright -- only that part that suggests that randomness produced the origin of life (and species, for that matter) and challenge it.
ID pretty much exists because (in the proponent's minds), evolution has adopted the secular humanist philosophy.
Michael Behe (kinda the guy who got the ID ball rolling) actually believes in common descent.
(The Bible, which was written by men, doesn't count)
09-09-05 | 08:28 PM
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The whole debate between teaching evolution and creation in schools is ridiculous. If there are so many people who think that Intelligent Design should be taught in a science class with/instead of evolution, we should just drop all aspect of each from the curriculum and go back to the basics—the scientific method.
I am wondering if evolution can be tested using the scientific method?
(1) Careful observations of nature. (2) Deduction of natural laws. (3) Formation of hypotheses — generalizations of those laws to previously unobserved phenomena. (4) Experimental or observational testing of the validity of the predictions thus made. Actually, scientific discoveries rarely occur in this idealized, wholly rational, and orderly fashion.
I also wonder if the scientific method can be tested using the scientific method??
09-11-05 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by blakader
I am wondering if evolution can be tested using the scientific method?
(1) Careful observations of nature. (2) Deduction of natural laws. (3) Formation of hypotheses — generalizations of those laws to previously unobserved phenomena. (4) Experimental or observational testing of the validity of the predictions thus made. Actually, scientific discoveries rarely occur in this idealized, wholly rational, and orderly fashion.
I also wonder if the scientific method can be tested using the scientific method??
(1) Careful observations of nature. (2) Deduction of natural laws. (3) Formation of hypotheses — generalizations of those laws to previously unobserved phenomena. (4) Experimental or observational testing of the validity of the predictions thus made. Actually, scientific discoveries rarely occur in this idealized, wholly rational, and orderly fashion.
I also wonder if the scientific method can be tested using the scientific method??
http://www.skepdic.com/science.html
