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Old 08-01-05 | 04:13 PM
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Duet anyone?

One of my favorite episodes, I remember getting chills watching that one unfold so many years ago.

Watching Kira and the Cardassian circle each other was great drama.
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
And even though this was the best modern Trek, it really shouldn't have been. Voyager had such tremedous potential to be so much more. If they had let Ron Moore get more freedom over the series, it would have been easilly second to Deep Space Nine, if not better. Watching Battlestar Galactica makes me realize the vision that Ron Moore had for Voyager, and Voyager could have been radically different from previous Trek shows.
I totally agree. Ron Moore has the ability to flesh out the characters. His work on The Next Generation have provided some of the best storylines in all of Trekdom. It was a crying shame when Moore left Trek because some of that creativity on Battlestar Galactica could have been used to realize Voyager's potential, or save Enterprise.
Old 08-01-05 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattrk
While it was more fun and not really story-intensive, I have a soft spot for "Take Me Out To The Holosuite". My stepfather is not a sci-fi person, but a big baseball fan: I told him that he had to watch it just for Sisko's love of baseball. He actually enjoyed the other aspects of the episode, too.
"Take Me Out to the Holosuite" is a great one. It was one of the few I watched in its original run back in 1999 or whenever, and to this day, my wife and I still say "Death to the opposition!" to each other.

And whoever mentioned the Ferengi episodes gets a from me. Any time an episode focused on Quark I knew I was in for a good hour of television.

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Old 08-01-05 | 05:43 PM
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I like Worf's suggestion to Nog on what to do with the Vulcan ball player who didn't touch home plate- "Find him and kill him!"
Old 08-01-05 | 06:11 PM
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"The Visitor" for me is the best DS9 episode ever and one of the best ST episodes right there with "The Inner Light" from ST:TNG and "City on the Edge of Forever" from ST:TOS. Although nominated for a Hugo Award in 1996, it was the only one among the 3 episodes that didn't win one.
Agreed. Although I am a grown man, I promise you that I will be bawling my eyes out at the end of "The Visitor", every time.
Old 08-01-05 | 06:18 PM
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Agreed. Although I am a grown man, I promise you that I will be bawling my eyes out at the end of "The Visitor", every time.
Big honking ditto. Great episode, great series.
When I went through the box sets, all of which I picked up on half.com btw, I was surprised by how much better the first season was than I remembered it but nothing could compare to what followed. Behr, Pillar, Moore and the rest of the writing staff went in some amazing directions not just for Trek but for science fiction TV as well.
Anyone else think that in her day Terry Farrell would have made a kick-ass Wonder Woman?
Old 08-01-05 | 06:28 PM
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My favorite episode is "Civil Defense" from season 3. That's where O'Brian and Jake trip a security alarm and an old Cardasian automated defense system kicks in and takes control of the station. That episode had some of the best Garak and Dukat moments from the entire series. I always thought those two played off each other very well.
Old 08-02-05 | 07:22 AM
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All this talk has reminded me how much I miss this show...This is easily my fav all time show, and havent seen it in over 3 years. I know they are expensive, but I think Im going to try and get all the season to own now. I have curtailed alot of my dvd spending this year, and not a big fan of owning much tv on dvd, but I think this is now a must own for me.
Old 08-02-05 | 07:24 AM
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Love the series. Gul Dukat is one of my favorite Trek characters, hands down. The only fan letter I ever wrote is to the actor that plays him.
Old 08-02-05 | 07:45 AM
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She got a swelled head and left to do other stuff. I think it may have even had to do with wanting more money.
She was very nice to the fans however. I remember she was at a Comic-con trying to shop before her appearance. My friend asked her if he could take a picture with her (and he was looking totally ridiculous in a business suit). She was very nice, put her arms around him to take the picture. And this was a place where they charge at the tables for autographs and stuff.
Old 08-02-05 | 09:05 AM
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Unfortunately, DS9 also has one of my least favorite eps ever... that one where they go to Risa and Worf decides to join in with a band of fun-terrorists and ruin everyone's vacation (Let He Who Is Without Sin... also season 5). What a total waste of time and it went against established character traits on numerous occasions.
That ep is still saved by Terry Farrell in a swimsuit.
Old 08-02-05 | 12:05 PM
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What was the ep where they land(crash?) on a planet on the other side of the wormhole that resurrects you when you die due to some virus? There were two armies at war who kept killing each other and coming back to life only to kill each other again. I remember there being a Bajoran woman who was a religious leader and a regular character. After that ep, she was no longer on the show.

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Old 08-02-05 | 12:09 PM
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Battle Lines, season one.

Series: 'Deep Space Nine'
Episode Title: 'Battle Lines'
Episode Number: 112
Synopsis: "A shuttle carrying Bajoran spiritual leader Kai Opaka on a brief tour of the Gamma Quadrant encounters trouble and crashes on a planet where she dies, leaving a devastated Kira and a shocked Sisko and Bashir. Then they discover that people on the planet are resurrected when they die, but can never leave...and the two local warring tribes have been killing one another for decades."
Old 08-02-05 | 12:09 PM
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edit: Wasn't quick enough.
Old 08-02-05 | 12:29 PM
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Hmmm...I never gave DS9 it's due. I watched the first couple of seasons, but somehow fell out of watching it. Maybe I'll try to pick it back up. I'm a Trek fan, and I've been on a big Sci-Fi kick lately.
Old 08-02-05 | 12:37 PM
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It's certainly my favorite in the Star Trek cannon. Watching TNG and TOS on DVD has mostly been an exercise in nostalgia, enjoyable as it is... In costrast, DS9 has a driving arc and plots that kept me rushing through the whole boxsets...

(And if you *really* love it, do yourself a favor and get the DS9 Companion trade paperback, by far the most detailed and fun of the ep-by-ep Star Trek compendium books.)
Old 08-02-05 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
I promise you that I will be bawling my eyes out at the end of "The Visitor", every time.
Agreed. I have watched "The Visitor" no less than 20 times and I still dissolve into a puddle of tears every time. I usually hold it together until Benjamin tells the elder Jake Sisko "Not for me!" and he replies "For you and for the boy I once was. He needed his father." And then I bawl again at the end when Ben holds the young Jake who asks if he is ok and he says "I am now, I am now."

As far as the Terry Farrell departure, the story that I remember from the time was that all the actors were originally signed for 6 seasons. When it was time to re-sign for the final season, Terry was the only one who held out for more money (on the advice of her agent). However, the producers called her bluff so she was out. I seem to recall an interview in which she acknowledged it was a mistake and she would have stayed around for the last season, but she got some bad advice.
Old 08-02-05 | 12:55 PM
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Hmmm...I never gave DS9 it's due. I watched the first couple of seasons, but somehow fell out of watching it. Maybe I'll try to pick it back up. I'm a Trek fan, and I've been on a big Sci-Fi kick lately.
It really picks up around 2/3rds of the way through Season 2. From there on, you can't help but to be completely hooked. It's unlike any other Trek series.
Old 08-02-05 | 12:58 PM
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It sure does seem like there's a lot of people out there that dropped either DS9 or B5 right before either started getting really good.
Old 08-02-05 | 01:14 PM
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Chew

It sure does seem like there's a lot of people out there that dropped either DS9 or B5 right before either started getting really good.
I feel for them. Well, not all of them. Anyone who talks about how awesome one of them is once it found its rhythm but refused to give the other the same chance deserves to miss out.

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Old 08-02-05 | 01:44 PM
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It sure does seem like there's a lot of people out there that dropped either DS9 or B5 right before either started getting really good.
It really does and a lot of people that I have talked to state the same reason, that it was too slow and didnt interest them but if they had held on they would have had a good ride.
Old 08-02-05 | 01:45 PM
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Agreed. I have watched "The Visitor" no less than 20 times and I still dissolve into a puddle of tears every time.
Can someone spoil this episode, give me the breakdown? For the life of me I can't remember how it went.
Old 08-02-05 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
Agreed. I have watched "The Visitor" no less than 20 times and I still dissolve into a puddle of tears every time. I usually hold it together until Benjamin tells the elder Jake Sisko "Not for me!" and he replies "For you and for the boy I once was. He needed his father." And then I bawl again at the end when Ben holds the young Jake who asks if he is ok and he says "I am now, I am now."
This and B5's "Sleeping in Light" are the only TV episodes where I bawl like a child. I just finished watching my fav episodes from DS9 S3 and I don't want to start S4 because "The Visitor" is the first ep I'll watch. But I have Rejoined, Home Front, Paradise Lost, and Hardtime to look forward to so I guess I need to grab the tissue and suck it up.

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Old 08-02-05 | 01:52 PM
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Can someone spoil this episode, give me the breakdown? For the life of me I can't remember how it went.
Spoiler:
An engineering accident throws Benjamin Sisko out of phase with the universe, but he appears to Jake periodically when the dimensions shift. Jake spends his entire life obsessed with finding a way to bring him back, finally realizing that only his own death can provide a means to destroy his timeline.


Two interesting facts from tv.com:

This episode was nominated for the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation but lost to the Babylon 5 episode The Coming Of Shadows.

The Visitor was voted the best episode of any Star Trek series in a TV Guide poll.
Old 08-02-05 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lisadoris
This and B5's "Sleeping in Light" are the only TV episodes where I ball like a child.
Pet peeve: The verb meaning "to cry" is spelled "bawl." "Ball," as a verb, is a slang term, and it does not describe something a child should be doing.


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