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Chew 04-22-05 06:15 AM

Enterprise 04/22/05
 
Title: "In a Mirror, Darkly Pt.1"

Spoiler:
In the first of a special two-part arc set in a dark alternate universe, an amoral, imperialistic version of the Enterprise crew, led by a new captain with Archer as his treacherous first officer, makes an astonishing discovery (that ties directly to the original "Star Trek" series) during a mission into enemy alien territory.

Meanwhile, in the alternate universe, a power-hungry Archer schemes against Captain Forrest, his lover Hoshi, and loyal slave T'Pol, so he can lay full claim to the discovery. Later, Phlox happily tortures a captured alien for information Archer needs.

w: Mike Sussman d: James L. Conway


If you're like me, you've skipped over the opening credits for years now. It sounds like we might want to watch them this week. :)

Chew 04-22-05 10:42 AM

Here's a couple pics. They're spoilers, so I'm linking only:

http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads...ip/320x240.jpg
http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads...ox/320x240.jpg
http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads...nt/320x240.jpg

The last one: :drool:

Phil L. 04-22-05 10:58 AM

Damn! My TV listings show a Yankee game on UPN tonight in the NYC area. :mad:
Is this repeated next week?

Red Dog 04-22-05 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Phil L.
Damn! My TV listings show a Yankee game on UPN tonight in the NYC area. :mad:
Is this repeated next week?


Same thing here in DC - Nats game.

Our UPN affiliate is airing the episode Saturday at 6 pm.

Chew 04-22-05 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Phil L.
Damn! My TV listings show a Yankee game on UPN tonight in the NYC area. :mad:
Is this repeated next week?

If your affiliate is anything like mine: they show Enterprise right after a sporting event. Then they show it again Sunday night.

Maybe it's played again over the weekend?

(Don't own a TiVo, do ya? ;) )

Phil L. 04-22-05 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Chew
If your affiliate is anything like mine: they show Enterprise right after a sporting event. Then they show it again Sunday night.

Maybe it's played again over the weekend?

(Don't own a TiVo, do ya? ;) )

Looks like our UPN is showing news, followed by re-runs of Girlfriends, Drew Carey, and Fear Factor after the game.
TV Guide has Enterprise listed for 8pm Sat night for NYC area. Looks like I'll catch it then.

No TiVo, only digital cable with DVR. Between the shows I have recorded on that, plus Netflix, plus all the DVD's I own and can't find time to watch, I'm backed up enough as it is. Not enough hours in the day.

Shannon Nutt 04-22-05 11:36 AM

For those that don't know, this is the two-parter that was SUPPOSED to bring back William Shatner and James T. Kirk. Guess they changed the story around to feature Archer's double in the mirror universe instead of Kirk's.

adamblast 04-22-05 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Chew

No kidding. She's sexy as hell! I can't wait to see how they got her to be in this episode!

spoiler:
Spoiler:
The bridge of the original Enterprise, I mean...

Damfino 04-22-05 02:51 PM

I have high hopes for this one. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.

I wonder if they would ever consider an entire series set in the mirror universe?

mikehunt 04-22-05 07:27 PM

I'll admit, my misgivings were a not needed

mikehunt 04-22-05 07:30 PM

anyone else's feed being jerky and jumpy?
both video and audio have messed up multiple times so far

MvRojo 04-22-05 07:30 PM

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm really looking forward to the next two episodes.

mikehunt 04-22-05 07:33 PM

OMG Hoshi is hotter than hell tonight

mikehunt 04-22-05 07:50 PM

Holy shit. Actual continuity with TOS

rmorgan 04-22-05 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
For those that don't know, this is the two-parter that was SUPPOSED to bring back William Shatner and James T. Kirk. Guess they changed the story around to feature Archer's double in the mirror universe instead of Kirk's.

Any more details on this? I remember last summer it seemed it was a done deal the Shatner would be on the show this season; never heard how they were going to bring him in, or why it didn't happen.

Mattrk 04-22-05 09:06 PM

Man, the cast looks like they really enjoyed doing this episode. Anyone else think they were venting some pent-up stress?

Cartload 04-22-05 09:12 PM

Mirror Hoshi :drool:

They should just stay in the mirror universe.

cdoug57 04-22-05 10:49 PM

Here'a another vote for a Mirror Universe show or mini-series.

Really enjoyed the continuity with TOS. The "Defiant" looked great. Loved them using the original bridge sounds.

Best episode by far for this series.

theedge 04-22-05 11:12 PM

This was like the best episode of Enterprise ever, sucks that they are just getting good and hitting a nice stride there are only 4 episodes left. A season of the Mirror Universe Enterprise would be awesome! Loved the opening footage, that was awesome. Mid-drift uniforms for the ladies?! I like them too! :) :D Well, at least we got next week, that one looks awsome as well.

Damfino 04-22-05 11:42 PM

Great episode! I loved the bit at the beginning with James Cromwell as the evil Cochran and the alternate opening theme was great too.

I suspect Shatner's involvement would have been his voice only. Obviously if the Defiant phased into the mirror universe, Kirk should be floating around out there too.

The Valeyard 04-23-05 12:00 AM

Why Shatner Didn't Do Enterprise:


At the ENTERPRISE writers/producers pane at the Grand Slam Con.l, the staff revealed the secrets about the aborted ENTERPRISE episode featuring the return of 'Captain James T. Kirk' to STAR TREK.

Star Trek.com posted their report about the third day of the Grand Slam XIII convention, with guests Jolene Blalock, Wil Wheaton and Manny Coto, Mike Sussman, Andre Bormanis, Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens.

"We had talked about doing a Mirror Universe episode ever since we got into Season Four," Manny Coto explained "But then we had the possibility of getting William Shatner. Coincidentally, the Reeves-Stevens [who have worked with Shatner on several STAR TREK novels] were a pair of writers whom I desperately wanted to bring on the show. And they, it turned out, had an idea for a Mirror Universe two-parter which would feature the return of William Shatner."

According to several reports last year, Shatner has spoken about a "Captain Kirk" story idea which he himself pitched to Paramount that was well received. ENTERPRISE writers Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens revealed at the convention what that pitch was.

"The idea was that the Tantalus Field was not a disintegrator, it was a humane way of dealing with prisoners, by sending them back in time to a sealed penal colony," Garfield explained. "Enterprise NX-01 comes upon the colony - and Tiberius [mirror-Kirk] is there. Tiberius thinks, 'Finally, a ship with a transporter - I can get back to my own universe, my own time.' He basically goes on the NX-01, gets to the transporter, sets it to go back to the mirror universe - the Mirror Universe doesn't exist."

"It hasn't been created yet," Judith said

"So Tiberius and Archer work together to figure out where the division point is between the universes, what point that one split off into the other. And as it turns out, Tiberius and Archer together are responsible for the creation of the mirror universe." Garfield said.

Manny Coto recounted that Shatner pitched the idea to him, Brannon Braga and Rick Berman and the producers loved it, but Berman pitched an alternative concept, which was actually devised by writer Mike Sussman.

"Shatner was going to be 'Chef' - an ancestor of Kirk." Sussman explained "We would find out that at some point in the future the real Kirk got into trouble, got taken out of history. And Daniels would show up, he would grab Archer, he would grab Chef - who of course looked like a William Shatner - and say, 'You have to go to the future and impersonate Captain Kirk in some important ceremony.' That was the setup."

"We pitched this to Shatner and there was a long silence," Coto continued. After that, the studio negotiations with Shatner fell through, but they still wanted to do a Mirror Universe episode, which became the two parter "In a Mirror, Darkly".
Andrew

Manco 04-23-05 01:15 AM

:thumbsup: for the alternate intro. I really liked this episode. They really should consider a alternate universe miniseries like suggested above.

Also is this the first time they've ever showed a Tholian?

MvRojo 04-23-05 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by Manco
Also is this the first time they've ever showed a Tholian?

Besides seeing the top part of their head in "The Tholian Web", yes. This is the first time their entire bodies were shown and they looked really cool.

Manco 04-23-05 01:39 AM

Another thing about this episode. When they scanned the Defiant they said that one of the lifesigns was reptilian. Could we be seeing the Gorn? I think they've only had them once on TOS.

JetSter735180 04-23-05 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by Manco
Another thing about this episode. When they scanned the Defiant they said that one of the lifesigns was reptilian. Could we be seeing the Gorn? I think they've only had them once on TOS.


Yap.....a Gorn.....It was confirmed that in the next weeks episode, there would be one.


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