Enterprise 04/22/05
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I have doubts as to whether a series set entirely in the mirror universe would really work. It would depend on how much the characters from this universe, as a frame of reference to the viewer, contributes to the overall enjoyment of the story. Would the show have been as good with actors/characters we've never seen before? Or a show that doesn't reference our universe? Don't really know because I've never seen it. What might work is if the main cast were freedom fighter rebels like the counterparts of some of the DS9 cast.
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I'm kind of glad we didn't get the "kirk/archer create the mirror universe" version
I was always of the opinion that in the mirror universe hitler won WW2, or at least got a stalemate with the US and had control over all of europe and later on the german empire took over.
I was always of the opinion that in the mirror universe hitler won WW2, or at least got a stalemate with the US and had control over all of europe and later on the german empire took over.
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Great episode. I wish Enterprise had been this good the entire time -- I might have watched it. One thing... I do wish they had updated the screens on the Defiant. The Enterprise has these 3D graphics and stuff, and the screens on the Defiant have, like, a colored bar chart with no labels.
Anyway, looking forward to next week.
Anyway, looking forward to next week.
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From: Shelby, NC
Two big 
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This episode kicked major major ass!!!
Now this is what I have always wanted to see in a Mirror, Mirror episode!
HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!!
Well looks like season 4 of Enterprise is now a definate must buy on DVD!!
Looking forward to next week!!!
Take care all!!

!!!!!!!This episode kicked major major ass!!!
Now this is what I have always wanted to see in a Mirror, Mirror episode!
HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!!
Well looks like season 4 of Enterprise is now a definate must buy on DVD!!
Looking forward to next week!!!
Take care all!!
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"Shatner was going to be 'Chef' - an ancestor of Kirk." Sussman explained "We would find out that at some point in the future the real Kirk got into trouble, got taken out of history. And Daniels would show up, he would grab Archer, he would grab Chef - who of course looked like a William Shatner - and say, 'You have to go to the future and impersonate Captain Kirk in some important ceremony.' That was the setup."

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That's pretty damn lame. Glad to see Shatner actually cares enough not to do somethat stupid.
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Well , i just got my hd setup all up and running this week and have not watched enterprise in a while. Just caught the reair of fridays episode and ... wow... All i got to say.
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Well, although I enjoyed it for what it is, I'm holding off on my opinion until I see part two next week. Too many times since B&B have had the reins have the second parts been sub-par compared to the beginning premise. Also, I can't help but think that, since this is an alternate universe, when all is said and done it won't be anything more than another Voyager Holodeck Show type thing. We'll see ....!
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Originally Posted by Dmacsg1
Two big 
!!!!!!!
This episode kicked major major ass!!!
Now this is what I have always wanted to see in a Mirror, Mirror episode!
HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!!
Well looks like season 4 of Enterprise is now a definate must buy on DVD!!
Looking forward to next week!!!
Take care all!!

!!!!!!!This episode kicked major major ass!!!
Now this is what I have always wanted to see in a Mirror, Mirror episode!
HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!!
Well looks like season 4 of Enterprise is now a definate must buy on DVD!!
Looking forward to next week!!!
Take care all!!
agreed.
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Originally Posted by rw2516
If we got the mirror universion of the show on Friday night, I wonder if they got our version.
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Originally Posted by RKillgore
Yeah, and the mirror universe DVDTalkers are complaining that, after the first three seasons of Enterprise have been brilliant and entertaining, this season is really sucking.

And this episode f'n rocked. It was awesome, radical, cool, I'm losing any credibility I have aren't I?
A little moment that really got me was when the Defiant's nacelle's started glowing and spinning.
Tholian
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Originally Posted by RKillgore
Yeah, and the mirror universe DVDTalkers are complaining that, after the first three seasons of Enterprise have been brilliant and entertaining, this season is really sucking.
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"Shatner was going to be 'Chef' - an ancestor of Kirk." Sussman explained "We would find out that at some point in the future the real Kirk got into trouble, got taken out of history. And Daniels would show up, he would grab Archer, he would grab Chef - who of course looked like a William Shatner - and say, 'You have to go to the future and impersonate Captain Kirk in some important ceremony.' That was the setup."
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Originally Posted by Red Dog

Funny.I am sure the Mirror Universe version will be going on for 3 more years...wonder how we can get that station. If only Rigas was still in control of Adelphia, or maybe if Enron would have bought it, they would have that channel added at the evil cable company.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
OK, now I'm sue Brannon & Braga are purposely trying to screw up the franchise. I mean, if you held a contest where you had everybody in America come up with the worst premise for a Star Trek episode, I don't think you could possibly beat this one for sheer lameness.
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Originally Posted by theedge
Funny.I am sure the Mirror Universe version will be going on for 3 more years...wonder how we can get that station. If only Rigas was still in control of Adelphia, or maybe if Enron would have bought it, they would have that channel added at the evil cable company.
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Originally Posted by theedge
Funny.I am sure the Mirror Universe version will be going on for 3 more years...
So, in an ironic twist of fate, the parallel universes remain in balance (except that our B & B have yet to be "Tantalized").
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I'm surprised no one complained about the speed at which the Tholian Web was created. It took hours upon hours to create in the original series, but a complete web was done in a few seconds here. Maybe due to an increased number of ships? But, the result was sweet.
That's just about my only major complaint.
Good use of First Contact footage, although Cochrane looked a bit "blue-screened in" (in the HD broadcast anyway).
Great opening credits sequence.
Porthos
Poor Forrest keeps getting killed off this season.
OK, one more small complaint: did the Defiant bridge seem a little.....off? It just felt too small compared to the classic Enterprise bridge we're used to.
That being said, I can't wait for part 2.
That's just about my only major complaint.
Good use of First Contact footage, although Cochrane looked a bit "blue-screened in" (in the HD broadcast anyway).
Great opening credits sequence.

Porthos

Poor Forrest keeps getting killed off this season.
OK, one more small complaint: did the Defiant bridge seem a little.....off? It just felt too small compared to the classic Enterprise bridge we're used to.
That being said, I can't wait for part 2.
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Originally Posted by Chew
I'm surprised no one complained about the speed at which the Tholian Web was created. It took hours upon hours to create in the original series, but a complete web was done in a few seconds here. Maybe due to an increased number of ships? But, the result was sweet.
Anyway, I loved the episode. I hope that the defiant lays a smackdown on some other ships next week, and that we'll finally get to see what TOS Enterprise would have been capable of had there been modern special effects.
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Originally Posted by Chew
I'm surprised no one complained about the speed at which the Tholian Web was created. It took hours upon hours to create in the original series, but a complete web was done in a few seconds here. Maybe due to an increased number of ships? But, the result was sweet.
That's just about my only major complaint.
That's just about my only major complaint.
Not only were there a lot more ships in this episode, but remember that one of the 2 ships in The Tholian Web was damaged, so that would slow things down.
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Great episode. At least the show is going out with a bang and not a whimper.



