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Old 04-05-05 | 11:28 AM
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I have a question about UPN.

Is it a network or what? Because I've heard of shows being on a network called UPN yet my cable company doesn't carry it. Niether does Direct TV or DISH. And it isn't an over the air network at least not in my part of the country. So who does get it? Major cities or what?
Old 04-05-05 | 11:28 AM
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It is an OTA network. Barely. Have it here in Baltimore and Washington.

I would guess your smaller markets may not have it.
Old 04-05-05 | 11:41 AM
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You can get UPN via dish network with their super stations package.
Old 04-05-05 | 11:47 AM
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I think in the biz UPN and the WB are sometimes referredto as "netlets". They are anetwork, but not a major network since they aren'tinall markets. The WB has more coverage than UPN though. I think in some markets, UPN and WB shows are carried on the same independent stations (usually UHF channels).

In Detroit, we had two long-standing UHF independent stations who were each able to take on WB and UPN programming for prime-time. I'd imagine inmarkets that didn't have multiple stations outside the 4 networks, there wouldn't be a station to carry the programming,
Old 04-05-05 | 12:21 PM
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Ok that answers my question.
Old 04-05-05 | 01:38 PM
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The UPN is also the old WWOR (ch.9) in NYC. At one time that was the home of NY Mets baseball and they also showed movies.
The only thing I ever tune into now on that channel is re-runs of King of Queens and COPS.
Old 04-05-05 | 01:46 PM
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It sounds like I'm lucky I don't get it.
Old 04-05-05 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mopower
It sounds like I'm lucky I don't get it.
I don't even know what's on UPN now that Buffy's off the air. I used to have the Dish superstation package, but since then I cancelled it.
Old 04-05-05 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
I don't even know what's on UPN now that Buffy's off the air.
Star Trek: Enterprise for about another month.

After which, I'll be joining the crowd and not having a clue what they play anymore.

Stupid UPN affiliate can't seem to broadcast steady HD either. It's a good thing they don't play anything more interesting.
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Originally Posted by Chew

Stupid UPN affiliate can't seem to broadcast steady HD either.

Better than no HD like here in Washington (or Baltimore).
Old 04-05-05 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Better than no HD like here in Washington (or Baltimore).
Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. Most cases the picture breaks up and the audio blanks out for a few seconds. This happens about every 20-30 seconds and usually results in a good 5 minutes missing from the recording. It's so annoying I can't even watch. Makes it sound like poor reception, right? The DirecTiVo says the signal strength is right up there with any of my other HD channels, so I have to think it's something on their end.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
I don't even know what's on UPN now that Buffy's off the air.
The amazing Veronica Mars-- one of the best new series this season.

I also kind of like KevinHill.

My husband enjoyed that Missy Elliott American Idol-type series.

I still watch Enterprise (I'm sticking it out for the rest of the series.)
Old 04-05-05 | 03:02 PM
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Oh yeah that's right, I forgot about Enterprise. For some reason I was thinking that was on the DoubleU Bee.
Old 04-05-05 | 03:20 PM
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I watch Enterprise. But it's on NBC. Of course it is on Saturday nights at 12:30am.
Old 04-05-05 | 03:34 PM
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Veronica Mars is the reason to watch UPN. It is one of my favorite shows. It is very hard to describe so watch it and you'll be hooked. It is about a teenage girl who works part-time with her private investigator dad. Watch it on UPN Tuesdays 9/8C.
Old 04-05-05 | 03:41 PM
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The amazing Veronica Mars -- one of the best new series this season.
I also kind of like KevinHill
Yeah that Mars show pretty well done.. I think it was mis-marketed as some sort of teen 90201-ish show and it's really not a teen soap at all.. Kevin Hill is ok I guess. I've watch it if nothing else is on, nothing really to build a network around..

The really strange thing out here in Sacramento at least is the ads that get played on UPN.. at least for the primetime HD stuff. Off cable or none HD you get the normal blitz of lame ads. At the same time, during the same commercial break, the over the air HD feed really has no ads, at all.. They just loop and loop and loop the same promo's for other UPN shows. Sometimes playing the same ads for, Kevin Hill and Veronica Mars back to back..

I guess they can't get the national ads being the network is not everywhere? No idea, just sort strange and a little annoying.. On the plus side, they do have a very good HD signal.. Much better picture quality then even the bigger networks in many cases.. Depends on the show and also show just how little FOX network cares about HD when a smaller network like UPN puts out a much better HD broadcast as far as over all look.
Old 04-05-05 | 04:24 PM
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direct tv in chicago has it. i think its a local channel here...i only watch it for the king of queens and becker reruns. is fear factor (reruns)on there also? thx to tivo i dont know what channel half of the shows i watch are on!
Old 04-05-05 | 04:46 PM
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C'mon... Veronica Mars. Veronica Mars. Veronica Mars. Veronica Mars.
Watch this show, people! Tuesdays at 9/8c on UPN
Old 04-06-05 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mopower
I watch Enterprise. But it's on NBC. Of course it is on Saturday nights at 12:30am.
In other words: your NBC affiliate also happens to be your UPN affiliate and all the UPN shows are played at stupid times? Sounds like you have UPN, it's just that your area isn't big enough to have UPN as a completely seperate channel. Must be why you've never heard of it. Do a TiVo or channel guide search for Veronica Mars and Kevin Hill, I'll bet you find both, also at weird times.
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In other words: your NBC affiliate also happens to be your UPN affiliate and all the UPN shows are played at stupid times? Sounds like you have UPN, it's just that your area isn't big enough to have UPN as a completely seperate channel. Must be why you've never heard of it. Do a TiVo or channel guide search for Veronica Mars and Kevin Hill, I'll bet you find both, also at weird times.
No, I don't thinking the NBC affiliate has any other UPN shows. I swear I saw Veronica Mars on MTV a few months ago? Eh, doesn't matter.
Old 04-06-05 | 09:01 AM
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I'm thinking that in areas not covered by UPN, they probably shop the shows around for other local stations to carry, and your NBC affiliate bought the rights to air Enterprise.
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No, I don't thinking the NBC affiliate has any other UPN shows. I swear I saw Veronica Mars on MTV a few months ago? Eh, doesn't matter.
Some Veronica Mars episodes were replayed on MTV. I assume an attempt by the coporate parent of both channels (Viacom) to drive viewers in the target demographic who are unaware of Veronica Mars being on UPN to the show.

UPN does have 180 affiliates, so there likely aren't that many areas without UPN (though a small handful are cable-only affiliates).

Certainly neither the WB nor UPN have had as much success building their networks as FOX had building theirs (we're ten years in on both the WB and UPN. FOX's ten-year anniversary would've been in 1997. By then FOX was far more established and successful than either the WB or UPN).
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UPN = America's Next Top Model
Blind Date

The Mets games that aren't on MSG or FSN are now on WB 11.
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Certainly neither the WB nor UPN have had as much success building their networks as FOX had building theirs (we're ten years in on both the WB and UPN. FOX's ten-year anniversary would've been in 1997. By then FOX was far more established and successful than either the WB or UPN).
And I imagine that the WB or UPN won't be acquiring NFL broadcasting rights anytime soon.
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UPN is as much of a network as WB is, or rather it's less of one. It's the #6 network for a reason.

For cities that don't have enough commercial local stations to carry the WB or UPN, usually their shows will end up getting syndicated on the main stations.


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