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rfduncan 03-17-05 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by zuffy
Talk about screwing up the game plan and having to make adjustment right away without any counselling.

Problem was... Ulong never HAD a game plan. James was so busy mouthing off about this or that that they never found anyone to lead them to do anything.

I am still annoyed that everything so far has been a physical challenge except making the bathroom (which was lame in its own way since it was never explained why Koror won IMO).


Originally Posted by TheGodfather
I'll slap the taste out of Greg's mouth if he tries to boot my boy Tom. Blaspheming li'l bitch. He should be shot for just suggesting it. It's obviously the right move for anyone not in alliance with him, but the timing is wrong. If you are serious about cutting Tom out you have to wait and let him be the first one voted off after the merge. Although I hope all Tom assassination attempts are unsuccessful because it would be nice to see someone win who actually deserved it again. Last one was Ethan.

Tom is completely clueless - Ian is just as clueless. They're too busy doing macho father-son back-patting to realize what is brewing within their own tribe. Next week Tom is going down. Greg and Coby's scheming was the only redeeming aspect of an otherwise oppressively slanted show. Ulong is just screwed. (The team has obviously given up - bringing their stuff to tribal council hoping for a merge?!?!?!)

Oh and Ibrahim sucks... I'm beginning to think he doesn't really know HOW to swim as he's tanked in every swimming challenge so far. Damn steroid queen...

shanester 03-17-05 10:29 AM

Ibrahem proved the point once again that just because you have big muscles doesn't mean your in "good shape". He looked really scared in the water and couldn't even hold his breath.

More cardio and less pumping!

Jim 03-17-05 10:52 AM

I thought the Tribal Council last night was excellent. It was great to see 2 votes where people couldn't consult with each other before the vote. For once you didn't really know how the vote was going to go. It was reminiscent of Season 1 in the early votes when lots of people would get votes. Now it's usually just 2 people, with one of those being the token vote from the person getting voted off.

I love all the physical challenges this season. It's making it hard so that the strong players are still in the game for the most part. Angie didn't deserve to go though, based on how she's done in the challenges.

I wouldn't mind seeing one tribe get completely eliminated. Don't mix it up. That would actually be the unexpected scenario.

I'm curious as to why a few people don't like Tom? He's competent, strong, excels in the challenges, not vulgar or classless, confident without being arrogant.

I like Ian, but he was popping off too much for his own good in front of both tribes last night.

Dabaomb 03-17-05 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Maxflier
Yeah, thats true.But don't you think he should have won both matches....easily?

not true....since Ibrehem is so tall, Greg had leverage on his side in that he could get under Ibrehem to push him off.

The problem with Ibrehem isn't that he's weak like Osten....he's just a weak swimmer, pure and simple.

Also, as someone who works out and knows ppl who juices, I don't think that Ibrehem juices. It looks like he has good genetics, plain and simple. I mean he's big, but he's not HUGE. It looks like he just does a lot of work in the weight room and that should be applauded, not looked down upon.

The thing with Tom is that he's a firefighter...those guys go through more crap than anyone, save for maybe those in the military. They have that second and third wind that makes them go above and beyond what a normal person could do.

Dabaomb 03-17-05 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by shanester
Ibrahem proved the point once again that just because you have big muscles doesn't mean your in "good shape". He looked really scared in the water and couldn't even hold his breath.

More cardio and less pumping!

more cardio? it looks like that guy is carrying 4% bodyfat...maybe less since he's losing weight on the island.

sven 03-17-05 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by aktick
I think I know what you're saying, and I thought the same thing. Of course I'll look like an ass if I come out and say it.


I'll say it. Black people on Survivor have always sucked at swimming.

Gil Jawetz 03-17-05 12:52 PM

Line of the night: Coby's "PUKE PUKE PUKE!"

runner001 03-17-05 01:27 PM

wasn't that line actually from The Amazing Race? ... or am I the one who has it mixed up?

WillieTheShakes 03-17-05 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Pharoh
I thought the episode bordered on downright unfair. Why take away the one strategic device that every losing team has had in the past? I think the bestowing of immunity was too much. They have to change teams or merge this coming week, or this might quickly become unwatchable.

Too late.

chowderhead 03-17-05 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Maxflier
At first i was wondering WTF for Koror giving immunity to Ibrehem,but after thinking about it i realize that it was actually a smart move because it makes Ulong keep their weakest player.Ibrehem is just like Osten,he is all bowed up but when it comes to challenges,he is no more useful than Kim was.

I also agree. I thought it was strange to give Ibrehem the immunity since he may be a threat to win individual immunity in a merge. However, he has shown that he cannot swim well which is a big problem. In addition, during the talk with Jeff, Ibrehem mentioned his "strategy" which is apparently to not get involved in the politicking/lobbying for votes and to lay his survivor life on his performances. That is great for student government but to at least 3 members of Koror, that meant that he was not going to make waves or to try and build counter alliances with dissaffected members of the Koror tribe if a merge were to happen. Thus, he would be relatively easier to vote off than someone else who may try to break the Koror alliance up.

sven 03-17-05 02:10 PM

And lets get it straight people. James was by far the weakest member and that is a fact. He's also a big morale killer with his very abrasive personality. Has there been a single challenge he's done well in besides last night? His big talk seems to be fooling people both on his tribe and watching at home.

NORML54601 03-17-05 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Not to mention, he is a lousy swimmer. I wonder if Mark Burnett goes out of his way to find people who meet certain stereotypes to many people. ;)

Of course he doesn't do that. On an unrelated note, do you think Coby is gay?

Red Dog 03-17-05 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by NORML54601
Of course he doesn't do that. On an unrelated note, do you think Coby is gay?


No and neither are Lynn and Alex on TAR. ;)

Cusm 03-17-05 03:09 PM

Ibrehem did not loose the challenge due to his poor swimming skills, it was because he kept tryign to untie the bottles instead of just pulling on it.

Red Dog 03-17-05 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Cusm
Ibrehem did not loose the challenge due to his poor swimming skills, it was because he kept tryign to untie the bottles instead of just pulling on it.


I include 'breath-holding' as a general layperson swimming skill.

shanester 03-17-05 04:02 PM

Also, as someone who works out and knows ppl who juices, I don't think that Ibrehem juices. It looks like he has good genetics, plain and simple. I mean he's big, but he's not HUGE. It looks like he just does a lot of work in the weight room and that should be applauded, not looked down upon.


I agree completely I don't think he's on steroids but he doesn't look like he has much endurance. As someone who works out also I think cardio is as important if not more so than just getting big

Gil Jawetz 03-17-05 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by shanester
Also, as someone who works out and knows ppl who juices, I don't think that Ibrehem juices. It looks like he has good genetics, plain and simple. I mean he's big, but he's not HUGE. It looks like he just does a lot of work in the weight room and that should be applauded, not looked down upon.


I agree completely I don't think he's on steroids but he doesn't look like he has much endurance. As someone who works out also I think cardio is as important if not more so than just getting big

Does any of that explain why his nipples point straight down?


I'm just asking.

auto 03-17-05 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by shanester
Also, as someone who works out and knows ppl who juices, I don't think that Ibrehem juices. It looks like he has good genetics, plain and simple. I mean he's big, but he's not HUGE. It looks like he just does a lot of work in the weight room and that should be applauded, not looked down upon.


I agree completely I don't think he's on steroids but he doesn't look like he has much endurance. As someone who works out also I think cardio is as important if not more so than just getting big

You should probably edit your post so that the first paragraph is a quote attributed to Dabaomb (see post#54) or people are going to get confused. It appears as if you are agreeing with yourself. Also, Dabaomb will definitely sue you for plagarism.

Dabaomb 03-17-05 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by automator
You should probably edit your post so that the first paragraph is a quote attributed to Dabaomb (see post#54) or people are going to get confused. It appears as if you are agreeing with yourself. Also, Dabaomb will definitely sue you for plagarism.

:lol:

dancinns 03-17-05 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by cartman
Every time they show James talking, I can't help but think of Freakshow from Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. He looks and sounds just like him :lol:.

:lol: I actually made that same comment to my girlfriend last night. At least James has the no boils thing going for him.

jpdude 03-17-05 10:47 PM

I could never do a swimming challenge. I can swim, but not well underwater. I've never been able to hold my eyes open at all because of the burning......and i never learned to hold my breath properly and water always finds itself going up my nose.

shoppingbear 03-18-05 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by sven
I guess they didnt realize that by keeping Angie around they might for the other tribe to have to play one of their girls(whose ass Angie would dominate) instead of forcing Jimbob to compete against either Ethan or Kobe(who will dominate him).

:hscratch: Huh?

Oh, are you thinking of the ONE challenge where the teams had to be matched guy-to-guy and girl-to-girl (the shoving-match challenge)? That hasn't been the case in ANY of the other challenges, from what I remember. So what does it matter to Koror if Ulong keeps/votes off a guy or a girl? It won't affect who Koror has to sit out at challenges.

sven 03-18-05 01:55 AM

Thats why I said "might". Plus ONE more challenge might be all it takes. It only took Ruperts tribe one loss to start its free fall.

Though even if that didnt happen I'd still take angie. She's outdone James in most of the challenges.

TheGodfather 03-18-05 02:00 AM


Also, as someone who works out and knows ppl who juices, I don't think that Ibrehem juices. It looks like he has good genetics, plain and simple. I mean he's big, but he's not HUGE. It looks like he just does a lot of work in the weight room and that should be applauded, not looked down upon.
No question. If he did pump himself up it may have been with winstrel or one of the other fat burning 'roids. His muscles look like hard work to me.

Does any of that explain why his nipples point straight down?
Yes, actually. Juice pumps your muscles unnaturally so they lose their natural shape. Naturally big pecs grow up and down and side to side from the corner near your armpit before growing out away from your ribs. This would point your nipples down.

I agree completely I don't think he's on steroids but he doesn't look like he has much endurance. As someone who works out also I think cardio is as important if not more so than just getting big nt your nipples down.
I don't think it's so much endurance as it is heart with him. I just don't think he has any.

TheGodfather 03-18-05 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
No and neither are Lynn and Alex on TAR. ;)

ALEX AND LYNN ARE HOMERSESHELS??????? :jawdrop:


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