Lost -- "Numbers" -- 03.02.2005
03-04-05, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by trooper7
BUT! The transmission Danielle created herself has been looping for 16 years..
the numbers were broadcast with that same counter preceeding them. then Danielle the french chick changed the message (replacing the numbers), but the counter continued to count up.
makes sense to me, and I agree with it.
03-04-05, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
I believe shoppingbear is saying the following:
the numbers were broadcast with that same counter preceeding them. then Danielle the french chick changed the message (replacing the numbers), but the counter continued to count up.
makes sense to me, and I agree with it.
the numbers were broadcast with that same counter preceeding them. then Danielle the french chick changed the message (replacing the numbers), but the counter continued to count up.
makes sense to me, and I agree with it.
03-04-05, 10:13 AM
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but the iterations are numbers too, so it seems unlikely (at least to me) that they would have been playing with the curse numbers because that seems like too many numbers going on and the iterations weren't mentioned with the number message. at least for now I think it seems more likely that the french woman set up the iterations when she changed the message.
03-04-05, 10:26 AM
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Here's a more complete list from a guy on the aforementioned forums:
4
- # of years Locke was in his wheelchair
- # of guns in Marshall's case
- # of aces on Boone's t-shirt
- # of years since Hurley's grandfather got his pacemaker
- # of years since Sam Toome killed himself
- # of years since Sawyer made his “birthday wish”
- # of people that will fit on Micheals raft
- # of months michealangelo stared at marble “working” in Locke’s story/Boone then asks if they’re going to stare at the hatch for 4 months
- # of miles due west back to camp from where Locke ties up Boone
- # of people Micheal needed to help did Jack out of the cave-in
- # of refills of Shannons inhaler Boone brought with him
- # of people to die since the plane crash(the sky marshall, Scott, the lady that drowned, Ethan)
- # of days that pass before Jack decides to burn the fuselage/bodies for a signal
- # of kids the nurse taking care of Micheal has
- # of traps Locke sets up around camp to get Ethan
- # of times Hurley says Charlie shot Ethan(He actually was shot 6 times)
- # of months the Psychic tried to convince Claire to raise her baby alone before giving her money and telling her of the couple in LA
- Shannon asks Boone what him and Locke have been doing in the jungle for the past 4 days
- Sayid said the French signal could be a SAT 4
- Leonard playing the game Connect Four
- Walt says he needs a 4-3 in the backgammon game
8
- # of months Claire was pregnant when they crashed
- # of Km the hitman tells Jin to drive
- # of people that die in Hurley's shoe factory fire
- # of whiskey shots between Sawyer and Christian Shepherd
- # of hours Kate would spend in the woods with her father tracking deer
- # of years since Micheal got hit by car
- # of years Micheals been writing Walt
- # of months Locke and Helen have been talking
- # of days since Charlie went with out his guitar
- # of weeks driveshaft was going to tour
- # of days after the crash Jack/other survivors moved to the caves
- # of years Micheal worked in construction
- Sawyers age when his Dad killed himself and his wife(sawyer may have been 9)
- Shannon's age when her Dad married Boones Mom
- news station at Hurley’s Lotto interview
- Walt born in August
15
- # of members on Danielle's research team
- # on whiskey bottle that Sawyer and Christian drink from
- # of hours Boone flew to rescue his sister
- # of kilometers to nearest town from aussie farm
16
- # of years Danielle’s distress has been looping
- # of weeks since someone won the lottery before Hurley
- # of years since Sam and Lenny heard the numbers
- Jack, Kate, and Charlie found the pilot 16 hours after the crash
- Age of patient of Jacks first solo procedure
- Jack told the lady at the airport desk he had to land in LAX in 16 hours to bury his father/flight was 16 hours
23
- Jack's seat number was 23A
- The reward for turning Kate in is $23,000
42
- # of spaces on a game of Connect Four board
* 815 *
- Flight #815
- Safety deposit box that Kate wanted
- Copier Charlie sold was model #C-815
* Major Multiples *
- Plane hit turbulence at 40,000 ft
- Charlie jokes about Locke bringing 400 knives
- The guy with the beans was running that scam for 40 years
- “Adam and Eve” have been in the caves for 40 years
- Sawyer got $160,000 from the girls husband as part of the scam
- # of years Locke was in his wheelchair
- # of guns in Marshall's case
- # of aces on Boone's t-shirt
- # of years since Hurley's grandfather got his pacemaker
- # of years since Sam Toome killed himself
- # of years since Sawyer made his “birthday wish”
- # of people that will fit on Micheals raft
- # of months michealangelo stared at marble “working” in Locke’s story/Boone then asks if they’re going to stare at the hatch for 4 months
- # of miles due west back to camp from where Locke ties up Boone
- # of people Micheal needed to help did Jack out of the cave-in
- # of refills of Shannons inhaler Boone brought with him
- # of people to die since the plane crash(the sky marshall, Scott, the lady that drowned, Ethan)
- # of days that pass before Jack decides to burn the fuselage/bodies for a signal
- # of kids the nurse taking care of Micheal has
- # of traps Locke sets up around camp to get Ethan
- # of times Hurley says Charlie shot Ethan(He actually was shot 6 times)
- # of months the Psychic tried to convince Claire to raise her baby alone before giving her money and telling her of the couple in LA
- Shannon asks Boone what him and Locke have been doing in the jungle for the past 4 days
- Sayid said the French signal could be a SAT 4
- Leonard playing the game Connect Four
- Walt says he needs a 4-3 in the backgammon game
8
- # of months Claire was pregnant when they crashed
- # of Km the hitman tells Jin to drive
- # of people that die in Hurley's shoe factory fire
- # of whiskey shots between Sawyer and Christian Shepherd
- # of hours Kate would spend in the woods with her father tracking deer
- # of years since Micheal got hit by car
- # of years Micheals been writing Walt
- # of months Locke and Helen have been talking
- # of days since Charlie went with out his guitar
- # of weeks driveshaft was going to tour
- # of days after the crash Jack/other survivors moved to the caves
- # of years Micheal worked in construction
- Sawyers age when his Dad killed himself and his wife(sawyer may have been 9)
- Shannon's age when her Dad married Boones Mom
- news station at Hurley’s Lotto interview
- Walt born in August
15
- # of members on Danielle's research team
- # on whiskey bottle that Sawyer and Christian drink from
- # of hours Boone flew to rescue his sister
- # of kilometers to nearest town from aussie farm
16
- # of years Danielle’s distress has been looping
- # of weeks since someone won the lottery before Hurley
- # of years since Sam and Lenny heard the numbers
- Jack, Kate, and Charlie found the pilot 16 hours after the crash
- Age of patient of Jacks first solo procedure
- Jack told the lady at the airport desk he had to land in LAX in 16 hours to bury his father/flight was 16 hours
23
- Jack's seat number was 23A
- The reward for turning Kate in is $23,000
42
- # of spaces on a game of Connect Four board
* 815 *
- Flight #815
- Safety deposit box that Kate wanted
- Copier Charlie sold was model #C-815
* Major Multiples *
- Plane hit turbulence at 40,000 ft
- Charlie jokes about Locke bringing 400 knives
- The guy with the beans was running that scam for 40 years
- “Adam and Eve” have been in the caves for 40 years
- Sawyer got $160,000 from the girls husband as part of the scam
03-04-05, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hotaru_san
but the iterations are numbers too, so it seems unlikely (at least to me) that they would have been playing with the curse numbers because that seems like too many numbers going on and the iterations weren't mentioned with the number message. at least for now I think it seems more likely that the french woman set up the iterations when she changed the message.
03-04-05, 10:43 AM
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My concern with the 16 year figure is that before it was transmitting the numbers. She replaced the numbers with her message (probably keeping the iterations). They figured the 16 years from the length of the message x the number of iterations. Are we sure the messages were the same length? Maybe it's not been 16 years.
03-04-05, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by trooper7
Good point! Isn't it also true that the iteration numbers were in french as well as her message?
03-04-05, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by datagirl7
My concern with the 16 year figure is that before it was transmitting the numbers. She replaced the numbers with her message (probably keeping the iterations). They figured the 16 years from the length of the message x the number of iterations. Are we sure the messages were the same length? Maybe it's not been 16 years.
the program with the interations could have been something that was on the boat with the french woman
03-04-05, 12:00 PM
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Who says that the 'magic numbers' werent just a stuck iteration?
24,815,162,342 iterations of WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
24,815,162,342 iterations of WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
03-04-05, 12:01 PM
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BTW. Everyone with father issues...
Anyone read Boys from Brazil?
Anyone read Boys from Brazil?
03-04-05, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Who says that the 'magic numbers' werent just a stuck iteration?
24,815,162,342 iterations of WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
24,815,162,342 iterations of WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
03-04-05, 01:05 PM
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03-04-05, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trooper7
4.8... billion seconds would be 152 years. if was a 1 second message. it was a much longer message than 1 second, so i think the time frame won't work with that theory.
03-04-05, 04:24 PM
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I have no theories on the numbers, but I have been thinking about Hurley. It seems to me that he was a patient at the psych ward, not an employee. The fact that he had just moved back in with his family and was working at a fast food joint points to that. His mother mentioned that he was gaining weight (again) which could be the product of anti-psychotic or anti-depressant medications. I'm going to go with the anti-depressants for a few reasons... he's sensitive to being called "crazy" - most depressed people don't want to be labeled as crazy because they aren't the same as people who hear voices or go on killing sprees; he would have probably run out of meds after a month on the island, yet hasn't shown signs of psychosis - however, he has shown signs of depression, especially in this episode; he's clear about having caused his family problems in the past - suicide? binge drinking (aka Hurley who hurls after too much alcohol)? depressed over the death of his father?
I'm getting a bad feeling that Hurley may be the one to die. If he is unhappy and doesn't find answers to his problems soon, perhaps he'll commit suicide on the island? Wouldn't be unexpected since he seems to think that his winning lottery numbers have caused so many other people problems that he may not want to go on.
Or maybe I'm grasping at straws. Anyone else wonder more about the Hurley character after this ep?
I'm getting a bad feeling that Hurley may be the one to die. If he is unhappy and doesn't find answers to his problems soon, perhaps he'll commit suicide on the island? Wouldn't be unexpected since he seems to think that his winning lottery numbers have caused so many other people problems that he may not want to go on.
Or maybe I'm grasping at straws. Anyone else wonder more about the Hurley character after this ep?
03-04-05, 06:03 PM
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4 = D
8 = H
15 = O
16 = P
23 = W
42
DHOPW 42 - I got nothing.
8 = H
15 = O
16 = P
23 = W
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DHOPW 42 - I got nothing.
03-04-05, 06:12 PM
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just wanted to chime in and say that episode was GREAT. I was down on the show for a few episodes but that episode redeemed my love for the show.
Funny story though, my friend just got a DVR and she had no idea about the last shot showing the hatch, since her DVR stopped recording right at 9. I had to tell her about it and remind her to set her DVR to record a few extra minutes just to be on the safe side.
Funny story though, my friend just got a DVR and she had no idea about the last shot showing the hatch, since her DVR stopped recording right at 9. I had to tell her about it and remind her to set her DVR to record a few extra minutes just to be on the safe side.
03-04-05, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by goofee girl
I'm getting a bad feeling that Hurley may be the one to die. If he is unhappy and doesn't find answers to his problems soon, perhaps he'll commit suicide on the island? Wouldn't be unexpected since he seems to think that his winning lottery numbers have caused so many other people problems that he may not want to go on.
03-04-05, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aktick
Well I didn't know that! Is it just because it's the most common/perfect number or something?
03-05-05, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dhmac
Check out The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and you will know the answer (...but not the question).
If you REALLY want to know, we have some mice that would like to speak with you.
03-05-05, 01:19 AM
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4
- # of aces on Boone's t-shirt
- # of aces on Boone's t-shirt
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10
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03-05-05, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cerulean
I don't remember a tshirt with aces, but Boone has been wearing a shirt that has the number 84 written in Chinese on the front. Or more specifically, the characters are
8
10
4
8
10
4
All I know is 4/8 is my birfday. That *has* to be significant.
03-05-05, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
I believe shoppingbear is saying the following:
the numbers were broadcast with that same counter preceeding them. then Danielle the french chick changed the message (replacing the numbers), but the counter continued to count up.
the numbers were broadcast with that same counter preceeding them. then Danielle the french chick changed the message (replacing the numbers), but the counter continued to count up.
Thank you, that's what I meant! 
As for the idea that
Originally Posted by hotaru_san
but the iterations are numbers too, so it seems unlikely (at least to me) that they would have been playing with the curse numbers because that seems like too many numbers going on and the iterations weren't mentioned with the number message.
It's possible it was a computer-created counter, but it wouldn't have necessarily had to reset when Danielle changed the message. Changing the message would be easier than reseting the counter, IMHO.