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El-Kabong 02-08-05 07:02 PM

Donate 11 bucks and SAVE STAR TREK!
 
From Slashdot:


An anonymous reader writes "What started of as a suggestion to pay for season 5 of Enterprise has actully snowballed into a project that no one has ever attempted before, that of getting fans to pay for the production costs of a tv series. It has brought on board a raft of people including lawyers. I wonder if the quoted $50 to $80 million is reachable." I gotta say that Enterprise has been better this season, but I feel like it's still only mediocre. Battlestar Galactica might be the best SciFi airing right now. And I woulda chipped in for more Firefly in a heartbeat.
Here's The Thread in question.

I dont know, this sounds like a legal headache to me. And frankly, it's a freakin' movie studio, not a charity. They need more of my money like they need a hole in their heads!

mikehunt 02-08-05 07:19 PM

I'll pay $11 to get to beat the living shit out of B&B with a baseball bat

clemente 02-08-05 07:25 PM

Take your 11 dollars...sign up on Netflix, add DS9, TNG, and the OS to your queue and remember why the show was once worthy of being a franchise.

Rogue588 02-08-05 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by mikehunt
I'll pay $11 to get to beat the living shit out of B&B with a baseball bat

oooooh...i'm down for this. As long as when we're done, we can have Jolene soothe our worn down muscules in a decontamination chamber..

assuming it hasn't been destroyed already..

calhoun07 02-08-05 09:00 PM

And next season the show will air on PBS?

invisiblegt 02-08-05 09:10 PM

So, let's say the figure needed it about $66 million.

That's quite a lot of people that will be needed... I mean, 6.6 million people donating $11 a piece?

Quite a weighty task to undertake...

darkside 02-08-05 09:26 PM

Worst Idea Ever!

No way something like this could ever work. You would probably just end up with the lawyers involved getting all the money anyway. That show was so unwatchable I doubt you could find more than a few hundred thousand willing to donate money anyway.

Slow Hands 02-08-05 09:31 PM

I believe Bakula is moving on to another project. Plus I never really liked Enterprise. I liked the concept not the execution.

Jadzia 02-08-05 10:07 PM

I'd pay $1100 to bring back DS9.

I wouldn't pay 11 cents for Enterprise.

Tradnor 02-08-05 10:11 PM

I'll donate 11 bucks for them not to bring it back. If this movement ever gets off the ground (doubtful), I might have to start up a collection of my own.

BizRodian 02-08-05 10:16 PM

Where are all these pathetic Trek fans coming from? When I used to visit Trek forums, everyone pretty much had the same feelings as we do on this forum (that Trek had sucked since Voyager, that TOS, TNG and DS9 were the good ones.) There were smaller groups who only were into one or two shows, and then a large group of (mostly) women who only liked Voyager. Everyone was pretty much dead against Enterprise. Did it pick up a fan following?

regent 02-08-05 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jadzia
I'd pay $1100 to bring back DS9.


Somebody shove me out an air lock if DS9 ever comes back.

devilshalo 02-08-05 11:22 PM

:lol:

calhoun07 02-08-05 11:31 PM

Deep Space Nine was a great series. Star Trek has never been any better than it was during that series since that show went off the air.

BizRodian 02-08-05 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
Deep Space Nine was a great series. Star Trek has never been any better than it was during that series since that show went off the air.

Voyager was still on the air that year though :lol:

So I must disagree :)

Tracer Bullet 02-09-05 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by BizRodian
Where are all these pathetic Trek fans coming from? When I used to visit Trek forums, everyone pretty much had the same feelings as we do on this forum (that Trek had sucked since Voyager, that TOS, TNG and DS9 were the good ones.) There were smaller groups who only were into one or two shows, and then a large group of (mostly) women who only liked Voyager. Everyone was pretty much dead against Enterprise. Did it pick up a fan following?

It's panic. Some incarnation of Star Trek has been on the air since 1987, and it's gained a reputation as an permanent television fixture. It doesn't help that Enterprise has noticeably improved and is actually enjoyable.

That said: let it die. Please, let it die. And don't let it come back until someone has a brilliant new concept for the franchise.

boredsilly 02-09-05 02:31 AM

I liked it best how the Angel fans mobilized to get the show another season (well tried anyway). Blood Drives, donating money to charities, running ads in newspapers thanking the cast y crew...basically trying to create awareness about the shows impending demise so hopefully it would change.

But give 60 million dollars to a studio? <eddiemurphybackwhenhewasstillcool> Get the f*** out of here!</eddiemurphybackwhenhewasstillcool>. Unless each person who donates get some kind of return on their money this is one of the dumber, ambitious but dumb, "save the show" campaigns I've ever heard of.

Oh, honorable mention for "Save the show" effort goes to Roswell fans who mailed hot sauce by the boat load to The WB. Not only was that quirky, creative, and cool - but it actually worked.

And you all need to stop hating on Voyager. I loved that show while it was on. It was great!

In other news. It's true, I have no taste. :lol:

das Monkey 02-09-05 05:17 AM

Yeah, the <i>Roswell</i> group did a good job. Of course, in the modern era of "Save Our Show" campaigns, no one has come close to the effort the <i>Farscape</i> group put together. Holy shit, that was amazing, and they had to fight against the backlash of the disaster that was the <i>Roswell</i> return on top of everything else. It's hilarious that the guy claims no one has ever tried this before. rotfl

The thought that anyone would waste his money to save this below average show is mind-boggling. If you're going to gear up for a fight like this, at least make it for a worthy cause. I'd like to see this guy find 3 million people who even give a shit that the show is leaving, let alone give $12 bucks to it.

das

Chew 02-09-05 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by mikehunt
I'll pay $11 to get to beat the living shit out of B&B with a baseball bat

Sign me up for that. :):up:

lisadoris 02-09-05 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jadzia
I'd pay $1100 to bring back DS9.

I wouldn't pay 11 cents for Enterprise.

Sign me up for bringing DS9 back (or beating B&B with baseball bats). Yes Enterprise has gotten better but it's done, stick a fork in it.

maxpower 02-09-05 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by BizRodian
Where are all these pathetic Trek fans coming from? When I used to visit Trek forums, everyone pretty much had the same feelings as we do on this forum (that Trek had sucked since Voyager, that TOS, TNG and DS9 were the good ones.) There were smaller groups who only were into one or two shows, and then a large group of (mostly) women who only liked Voyager. Everyone was pretty much dead against Enterprise. Did it pick up a fan following?

The pathetic fans are the ones who bitch and moan about how terrible the show is and continue watching it as well as the ones who continue to post in threads about a show they claim to have not watched in years. That is pathetic.

But in answer to your question...the minority are usually the most vocal. Those deriding the show are in the minority. Those who like the show for the most part do not make their voices heard.

Fielding Mellish 02-09-05 09:33 AM

http://www.st-hypertext.com/images/m...ered/table.jpg

LET... THEM... DIE!!!!

Groucho 02-09-05 09:39 AM

What will the fan movement be when they cancel Arrested Development?

Will we all get circumcized?
Will we all paint ourselves blue?
Will we all buy a shitty house?
Will we all **** an old lady?
Will we try to teach Fox "a lesson?"

BizRodian 02-09-05 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by maxpower
The pathetic fans are the ones who bitch and moan about how terrible the show is and continue watching it as well as the ones who continue to post in threads about a show they claim to have not watched in years. That is pathetic.

I never said those people were not pathetic. I don't understand the people who watch the show but dislike it. However, I think anyone who was once a big Trek fan is going to have some interest in what's happening with the francise, because it effects if a good version might come out some time.

But, as far as being pathetic goes, I do think this guy who thinks he can pay 60 million to a studio when it's clear he's in a real minority that really does take the cake.

das Monkey 02-09-05 10:12 AM

With so many people shooting their mouths off about shows they don't even watch or only watching one or two programs and proclaiming them the greatest things on the air with no frame of reference, criticizing someone for actually watching a series in its entirety and expressing an informed opinion about its contents seems pretty weak IMO.

das

Bugg 02-09-05 10:15 AM

If the show had enough fans to raise over 60million dollars, then the show would not need to raise 60 million dollars to stay on the air.

bboisvert 02-09-05 11:13 AM

No amount of campaigning or money raising will bring this show back. Face it, the show was actually cancelled *last year*. This year was simply to get enough episodes for syndication deals.

Trek will be back. There are strong rumors that there will be a live action Star Wars show in 2006. Once that happens, everyone will jump onto the sci-fi series bandwagon, including Paramount. I just hope they have enough time and patience to actually create a decent show.

Deftones 02-09-05 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
No amount of campaigning or money raising will bring this show back. Face it, the show was actually cancelled *last year*. This year was simply to get enough episodes for syndication deals.

I do believe it's falling 2 episodes short of the 100 mark.

Tracer Bullet 02-09-05 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Deftones
I do believe it's falling 2 episodes short of the 100 mark.

Still enough for syndication.

MEJHarrison 02-09-05 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by regent
Somebody shove me out an air lock if DS9 ever comes back.

Since no one else is stepping up to the plate, I'll volunteer. Anyone who doesn't appreciate DS9, deserves to be shoved out an airlock.

riley_dude 02-09-05 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by mikehunt
I'll pay $11 to get to beat the living shit out of B&B with a baseball bat

Me too. I'll chip in to have him flown out to a secret location and all people who love Trek can kick him once and say, "What have you been thinking the last 10 years?"
So you raise the money for the show and all the Actors salaries? Thats millions of dollars. Are you anywhere close yet?
The sooner people come to terms that this show is going to end, the better you will be.


Since no one else is stepping up to the plate, I'll volunteer. Anyone who doesn't appreciate DS9, deserves to be shoved out an airlock.
People that like Enterprise and Voyager as opposed to DS9, I think, are missing the whole point of what Rodenberry wanted from the beginning , and that's to tell stories about the human condition; something the shows above have forgoten to address. If you want explosions and little character interaction go rent Episode one and two of Star Wars.

Jadzia 02-09-05 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by maxpower
The pathetic fans are the ones who bitch and moan about how terrible the show is and continue watching it as well as the ones who continue to post in threads about a show they claim to have not watched in years. That is pathetic.

But in answer to your question...the minority are usually the most vocal. Those deriding the show are in the minority. Those who like the show for the most part do not make their voices heard.

Many people who are die-hard Trek fans watch Enterprise out of obligation, not out of enjoyment. I still love the franchise and I feel I must watch any incarnation of it as long as it is on the air, even if I don't like it.

I guess it's like going to a wedding of a cousin you can't stand. Even if you don't have fun, it's still family.

That is why I am happy Enterprise is being cancelled. I will get an extra hour every week back.

Count Dooku 02-09-05 11:52 AM

Instead of spending the money "to save" Enterprise, you could do this 11 times:
http://www.imbuddy.net/buddyicons/d/...10-IMBUDDY.jpg "Greetings, friends. Do you wish to look as happy as me? Well, you've got the power inside you right now. So use it and send one dollar to Happy Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. Don't delay. Eternal happiness is just a dollar away."

riley_dude 02-09-05 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jadzia
Many people who are die-hard Trek fans watch Enterprise out of obligation, not out of enjoyment.

Obligation? To whom? Supporting sub par Television is why they kept cranking out spinoff after spinoff, each getting worse than the last.

So how much has been raised so far to bring the show back? I am curious.

boredsilly 02-09-05 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
Yeah, the <i>Roswell</i> group did a good job. Of course, in the modern era of "Save Our Show" campaigns, no one has come close to the effort the <i>Farscape</i> group put together. Holy shit, that was amazing, and they had to fight against the backlash of the disaster that was the <i>Roswell</i> return on top of everything else. It's hilarious that the guy claims no one has ever tried this before. rotfl

Oh right! I always forget about that because I came on board all late and out of date, only watching the show after it was cancelled. So I didn't get to see it all happen.

They need to let the franchise die for a bit. Grow fallow or whatever, and bring it back in 5 or even 10 years when they have a new idea or just some great writers lined up to tell some awesome stories. The movies and tv shows. Look what it did for TNG.

latenight 02-09-05 03:15 PM

I'll pay $11 as long as I have total control of the show. I mean I can't do any worse than they have.

mikehunt 02-09-05 04:03 PM

I liked voyager and enterprise
not as much as the later part of ds9 but I still like them

calhoun07 02-10-05 12:14 AM

What happens if people donate the money and the show still gets canned? Where does all that money go?

Chew 02-10-05 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
What happens if people donate the money and the show still gets canned? Where does all that money go?

"Save the Humpback Whale Foundation"

Shannon Nutt 02-10-05 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by calhoun07
What happens if people donate the money and the show still gets canned? Where does all that money go?

Bakula's residual checks.


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