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Old 02-02-05 | 10:58 PM
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Cool! Maybe this means cheap season boxsets so I can catch up!
Old 02-02-05 | 11:05 PM
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The franchise needs a rest and B&B need to start looking for new jobs.

I'd love to see a new series based around the time frame of the Ent-B in Generations. I wanna see those cool "red shirt" uniforms on a weekly series.

They need to fill in the time frame between the classic movie era and what I dub the "Ambassador-class era". Basically tell how the universe evolved after the Kitomer Accords and the war between the Klingons and the Romulans.
Old 02-02-05 | 11:27 PM
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Oh my God, a world without Star Trek? Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?!!!
Old 02-02-05 | 11:29 PM
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Well at least they waited for the show to decline in ratings. Didn't Sci-Fi cancel Farscape when it still had strong ratings and a pretty big audience.
Old 02-02-05 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Lowrey
I'd love to see a new series based around the time frame of the Ent-B in Generations. I wanna see those cool "red shirt" uniforms on a weekly series.

They need to fill in the time frame between the classic movie era and what I dub the "Ambassador-class era". Basically tell how the universe evolved after the Kitomer Accords and the war between the Klingons and the Romulans.
Me, I think I'd rather see them wait until 2010 or later and start from scratch with a Gen 3 and a new Enterprise that's as far into the future from TNG as it was from TOS. Not that I wouldn't miss it alot, but I think any more TNG/DS9/VOY era shows *or* any "gap-fill" strategy are both just asking for more mediocrity...

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Old 02-02-05 | 11:39 PM
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I'd love to see a new series based around the time frame of the Ent-B in Generations. I wanna see those cool "red shirt" uniforms on a weekly series.

They need to fill in the time frame between the classic movie era and what I dub the "Ambassador-class era". Basically tell how the universe evolved after the Kitomer Accords and the war between the Klingons and the Romulans.
I've been saying this for YEARS: The Adventures of Captain Sulu! A show, done with the Old School sensabilities, with the modern production values - that show would ROCK! Done right, that would bring viewers back into the trek fold by the thousands!
Old 02-02-05 | 11:46 PM
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I've been saying this for YEARS: The Adventures of Captain Sulu! A show, done with the Old School sensabilities, with the modern production values - that show would ROCK! Done right, that would bring viewers back into the trek fold by the thousands!
I say branch out. Do Starfleet Legal and have Dick Wolf executive produce.
Old 02-02-05 | 11:55 PM
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Actually, something like Starfleet Legal might actually be a winner....

...or it would suck big ones. Not sure which.
Old 02-03-05 | 12:17 AM
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Cool! Maybe this means cheap season boxsets so I can catch up!
Old 02-03-05 | 05:05 AM
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Well, this goes to show what an idiot I am...I figured there would be no way UPN would make a decision until they got some numbers on the DVD sales and looked at the overall ratings for this past year.

I understand why some people are upset at the decision, and I feel bad for all involved with the show, let's face it - Paramount has oversaturated us with Star Trek stuff for a good 10 to 15 years now...let's take a break for five years or so, release a new theatrical film and then see what the fan base is like.

It's going to take most of us that long anyway to catch up with all the DS9, Voyager and Enterprise shows we never got around to seeing.
Old 02-03-05 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by El-Kabong
I've been saying this for YEARS: The Adventures of Captain Sulu! A show, done with the Old School sensabilities, with the modern production values - that show would ROCK! Done right, that would bring viewers back into the trek fold by the thousands!
If NEMESIS would have been a box office hit, rumor was there was a STRONG possibility of an Capt. Riker TV Series...but once NEMESIS bombed, Paramount wasn't interested in a new series - given the numbers ENTERPRISE was pulling in.
Old 02-03-05 | 06:12 AM
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Hey, aren't Paramount and CBS both owned by Viacom?

"Coming this fall, from producer Jerry Bruckheimer: 'CSI: UFP'!"
Old 02-03-05 | 06:29 AM
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Hey, aren't Paramount and CBS both owned by Viacom?

"Coming this fall, from producer Jerry Bruckheimer: 'CSI: UFP'!"
First up: who killed Berman & Braga.

It's the one case a CSI team didn't care to solve.
Old 02-03-05 | 07:27 AM
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I was never into Star Trek much (aside from the films or catching the occasional episode of Next Gen.) but I watched Enterprise weekly from day 1. So where do I go from here? Should I go through Next Gen. from the start? Or should I jump to Deep Space 9?
Old 02-03-05 | 07:33 AM
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I was never into Star Trek much (aside from the films or catching the occasional episode of Next Gen.) but I watched Enterprise weekly from day 1. So where do I go from here? Should I go through Next Gen. from the start? Or should I jump to Deep Space 9?
I guess that depends on how much Trek you really want to watch. If you're going to watch both anyway, I would go in order: TNG first then DS9. TNG will set up several of the races seen in DS9. The Ferengi and Cardassians evolved somewhat over the course of TNG and it might be a bit jarring to start with DS9 and then see those races in their early stages of development if you watch TNG second.

If you're not going to watch both: DS9 would be my choice.
Old 02-03-05 | 07:35 AM
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Long live Battlestar Galactica!!!
Seriously, if you need a good scifi fix, check out BG on Fridays.
The series is soooo much better than Enterprise and really needs support to get to a second season.

I gave up on Enterprise a year ago - really tried to like it but just couldn't.
The writing was on the wall after it barely got picked up after last season and they pretty much came out and said that it was only so that they could get enough episodes for syndication.

Ron Moore is doing @ BG what he was never allowed with ST and while it does have its flaws, its success might lead to more "smart" scfi, not watered-down Enterprise crap.

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Old 02-03-05 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by crapkilla
Long live Battlestar Galactica!!!
Seriously, if you need a good scifi fix, check out BG on Fridays.
The series is soooo much better than Enterprise and really needs support to get to a second season.
I agree. My wife and I are enjoying Battlestar Galactica, I was definitely expecting it to be pure crap.

I do like Enterprise, but that could be partly because I was never a dedicated Trek fan. I recognize the show is not as good as it could be -- last season was hard to get through.
Old 02-03-05 | 08:42 AM
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I hope they have time to do a decent finallie to wrap it up and not leave us with a cliffhanger.

As a Star Trek fan, I just have to say that I have mixed emotions about Enterprise being cancelled. In a way i'm kind of glad because hopefully it will lead to a new better series. Even with the improvements Enterprise had made over the last two seasons, it is still, by far, the weakest of the Trek series. I watch and tape it every week, and will buy the dvds, but to me it has never really looked or felt like the Star Trek I know and love.

Enterprise you are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Old 02-03-05 | 08:54 AM
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It seems like deja vu all over again. The original season was a marginal hit until it was placed on Friday nights (albeit a later time slot) and Enterprise was canceled after it was moved to Friday.

Note to future spin offs, don't accept a Friday timeslot.

For all the plusses of this current season, I am ready for Trek to take a break. Wait a while and maybe someone can get an original idea and reinvigorate the Trek franchise.

I can hardly believe that this news does not even suprise me, and I have been a fan since I was a 9 year old watching the original run of the original series. Guess it is time for a break.
Old 02-03-05 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crapkilla
Long live Battlestar Galactica!!!
Seriously, if you need a good scifi fix, check out BG on Fridays.
The series is soooo much better than Enterprise and really needs support to get to a second season.

Ron Moore is doing @ BG what he was never allowed with ST and while it does have its flaws, its success might lead to more "smart" scfi, not watered-down Enterprise crap.
*clears throat* SciFi, Bonnie Hammer, Farscape, nuff said
Old 02-03-05 | 08:55 AM
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Anybody have any Zoloft?

I'll post more this evening when I calm down.


Meanwhile, does anybody have information on contacting Scifi or Paramount - phone number preferably?

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Old 02-03-05 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by crapkilla
Long live Battlestar Galactica!!!
Ron Moore is doing @ BG what he was never allowed with ST and while it does have its flaws, its success might lead to more "smart" scfi, not watered-down Enterprise crap.
In fact, some of the very best Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes were done under Ron Moore's guidance. I'm glad that Moore jumped at the chance to do the new Battlestar Galactica series and turned it into a surprisingly good show.
Old 02-03-05 | 10:54 AM
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The problem I had with Trek during the '90s is that they tried to do two shows at once. I had every intention of following DS9, but when VOY started two years later my brain almost exploded and I quit watching. Luckily the DVDs have given me a chance to see these series. (I still have the last two seasons of VOY sitting on the shelf unwatched.)

And even though I have only really seen the pilot episode of ENT, I'll probably buy the DVD sets coming out this year.

It's kind of funny really on the difference of reaction on this BBS from that on the TrekBBS. People are Pissed (with a capital P) at the TrekBBS, but the people here are more understanding and not as surprised.

The difference over there is that lots of people enjoyed Star Trek for its utopian socialist political future, while I enjoy Trek just for the sci-fi part of it.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
If NEMESIS would have been a box office hit, rumor was there was a STRONG possibility of an Capt. Riker TV Series...but once NEMESIS bombed, Paramount wasn't interested in a new series - given the numbers ENTERPRISE was pulling in.
Well, that's not QUITE as cool as the Sulu series, it could have potential. But I thought Frakes was done with the show? The plus side of the Sulu series was George was DIEING to get that off the ground. But he just couldnt get the Suits to listen.

Originally Posted by crapkilla
Long live Battlestar Galactica!!!
Seriously, if you need a good scifi fix, check out BG on Fridays.
The series is soooo much better than Enterprise and really needs support to get to a second season.
Wow - thats like praising syphilis for not being as bad as AIDS.

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Old 02-03-05 | 11:20 AM
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It's kind of funny really on the difference of reaction on this BBS from that on the TrekBBS. People are Pissed (with a capital P) at the TrekBBS, but the people here are more understanding and not as surprised.
Well, it certainly is funny. When Star Trek was fighting for its life, there was nothing like it anywhere. It was socially important and meaningful, and despite its flaws, it needed to be on the air, and it made a difference. Enterprise has no purpose. At its best, the greastest thing it will ever do is be moderately entertaining, and most times it falls short of that modest goal. I'm not sure how anyone can get too worked up over getting 4 seasons of a show that didn't need to be on the air in the first place, isn't special or original or valuable, and IMO, quite simply isn't very good.

Personally, I'm disappointed that B&B got 10 seasons to destroy the franchise, and Coto barely gets half of one to try and make sense of the mess, but it won't keep me up at night, because while I'd like to see some success, the franchise desperately needs to die. It's been incredibly painful watching its decline over the years, and I'm relieved that we can finally put away the crash cart and let it go in peace. I just hope to God this really is an ending. I'm more than open to a new beginning, but you cannot start anew unless you actually end in the first place. Let this be an end ... please.

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