CONFIRMED: Star Trek: Enterprise cancelled.
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won't do any good but I sent this using the feedback form on the contact link on upn.com
I recently heard that Enterprise is being canceled. The show finally starts living up to the promises made before the pilot even aired and now it gets canned. Fire Berman and Braga as they ran Trek into the ground, but please change the decision to cancel this show. It's the only show worth watching on your network.
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Paramount went to the well way too many times, milking the Star Trek franchise way past it being dry. I just couldn't get into "Enterprise" at all. I tried watching it in the beginning, but it never caught my interest, nor did it even feel anything like a Trek series. It didn't feel...well, "retro" enough, like it took place before TOS. It felt too modern/futuristic. (Yeah, I know that was the point of something that takes place in the future, but it felt nothing like a prequel.) There were too many things that they didn't want to let go of, so they had to bring in things like the early forms of holodeck technology. Or bringing in Brent Spiner to play an ancestor of Noonian Soong. Alien conflicts, technological malfunctions, and stories with social metaphors (which TOS did the best), are beyond interesting anymore.
I even tried watching it again recently when the supposed improvements took place, and I still got restless watching it.
I even tried watching it again recently when the supposed improvements took place, and I still got restless watching it.
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Originally Posted by DJ_Spyder
Hey I'm curious what is the history between Ron Moore and B&B did they part on bad terms? And I have to agree the cancellation of this show was along time in coming.
http://hypatia.slashcity.org/trekshack/moore.html
The franchise needs a nice, long rest. Let UPN change presidents a few times. Let B&B drift to other shows, other franchises.
The sad truth is that *no Trek* produced by B&B or shown on today's UPN can *ever* be great Trek. Let's pray that *someoone" knows better than to try again.
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Originally Posted by maxpower
yeah..it's that simple.
One option i've read is going into first run syndication. I don't know what UPN expects...this show is their highest rated drama.
One option i've read is going into first run syndication. I don't know what UPN expects...this show is their highest rated drama.
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Originally Posted by JLB
They'll proably never pay for it, but somehow, UPN has got to get Shatner in there for the finale. Better yet, have some freaky, multi-time continuum thing (a-la the TNG finale) and have Shatner, Picard, Janeway all there.....
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Originally Posted by maxpower
I don't know what UPN expects...this show is their highest rated drama.
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This sucks. I know most people did not like this show, but I did. The first two seasons really weren't that great, but season 3 improved, it just drug the storyline out too far. Season 4 has been the best yet except for one episode.
I do agree that they should let this franchise rest for a few years.
I do agree that they should let this franchise rest for a few years.
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Originally Posted by DRG
I've read several places that UPN is really trying to push themselves as a female-friendly network now. Enterprise and Smackdown stuck out like sore thumbs, and now one is gone and the other likely won't be on UPN after next season.
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Originally Posted by Fok
I don't see why not, why keep funding a show that isn't working?
But if they are indeed moving in a new direction and their highest rated drama doesn't fit into their new plans that is understandable. It appears Paramount does not have plans to syndicate the show.
As many have stated if not for Enterprise I would not even watch UPN. Job well done, UPN...once less channel for me to keep track of.
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if it wasn't for Trek (voyager to be specific) there'd be no UPN network to begin with(Voyager was originally syndicated like TNG and DS9 but they used it as the anchor to create UPN), and yet they treat the franchise like shit
harsh language:
harsh language:
Spoiler:
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I'm OK with the cancellation. At least Enterprise will go out on a creative peak since the last season has also been its best.
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I hate to see this happen. It was better than Voyager. Hopefully this will lead the way to something better.
Ah, shit. I just remembered when Voyager was on by itself. I started reading Star Trek books again. Is this what it has to come to?
Ah, shit. I just remembered when Voyager was on by itself. I started reading Star Trek books again. Is this what it has to come to?
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This is very BAD for SciFi on TV in general..
for years, 'Trek' has been what 'The Suits" consider the gold standard. A built in fan base. Loyal viewers..
Enterprise being cancelled may well bring the stigma of 'if Trek can't make it, why take a chance on anything else.....'
no... this is bad, very bad.
for years, 'Trek' has been what 'The Suits" consider the gold standard. A built in fan base. Loyal viewers..
Enterprise being cancelled may well bring the stigma of 'if Trek can't make it, why take a chance on anything else.....'
no... this is bad, very bad.
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Originally Posted by maxpower
It appears Paramount does not have plans to syndicate the show.
"In January, Paramount Domestic Television sold the rebroadcasts of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE into off-network syndication in over 90% of the country, including 49 of the 50 top markets, and is set for debut in Fall 2005."
I would not say the syndication option is dead yet... if they get enough response from the 4 season of syndication, they could produce a 5th 'tdy up' season for syndication....
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I tried and tried to like Enterprise but it just bored me to death every time, even the most recent episodes. Great show's like Wonderfalls get all of 4 episodes, Enterprise get's almost 4 years (And It Sucks!), before they cancel it.
Got to go watch Wonderfalls on DVD now!!
Got to go watch Wonderfalls on DVD now!!
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No plans for syndication but if the DVD sells well then you'll have a better chance of seeing a "finale movie" like Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars.
Maybe they've got it into their heads now that the fans just won't accept any "Trek", it has to be good. I don't care how good this season was, I abandoned it 2yrs ago and there's no way I was going back to it now.
Trek is Paramount's cash-cow, and they won't keep it off the air for long.
Maybe they've got it into their heads now that the fans just won't accept any "Trek", it has to be good. I don't care how good this season was, I abandoned it 2yrs ago and there's no way I was going back to it now.
Trek is Paramount's cash-cow, and they won't keep it off the air for long.
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Originally Posted by adamblast
Here's a great page about Ron & Star Trek. It's long, but worth it. Near the end he sums up what most fans have intuitively felt about the franchise ever since DS9.
(from his comments)
It was all very technical, and they were talking about the fact that in the premise this ship was going to have problems. It wasn’t going to have unlimited sources of energy. It wasn’t going to have all the doodads of the Enterprise. It was going to be rougher, fending for themselves more, having to trade to get supplies that they want. That didn’t happen. It doesn’t happen at all, and it’s a lie to the audience. I think the audience intuitively knows when something is true and something is not true. VOYAGER is not true. If it were true, the ship would not look spick-and-span every week, after all these battles it goes through. How many times has the bridge been destroyed? How many shuttlecrafts have vanished, and another one just comes out of the oven? That kind of bullshitting the audience I think takes its toll. At some point the audience stops taking it seriously
My thought was: why didn't they take the opportunity to make it last a season? There was so much potential in those couple of episodes that they just pissed away down the toilet.
Enterprise was OK, but after Voyager, my expectations were already low. Enterprise (IMO) also suffered from them seeming to want to play it safe and "stick to the recipe". Surely it's possible to have something set in the Trek universe that isn't as formulaic as the most recent incarnations.
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Originally Posted by DRG
I've read several places that UPN is really trying to push themselves as a female-friendly network now. Enterprise and Smackdown stuck out like sore thumbs, and now one is gone and the other likely won't be on UPN after next season.
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Originally Posted by Londo
This is very BAD for SciFi on TV in general..
for years, 'Trek' has been what 'The Suits" consider the gold standard. A built in fan base. Loyal viewers..
Enterprise being cancelled may well bring the stigma of 'if Trek can't make it, why take a chance on anything else.....'
no... this is bad, very bad.
for years, 'Trek' has been what 'The Suits" consider the gold standard. A built in fan base. Loyal viewers..
Enterprise being cancelled may well bring the stigma of 'if Trek can't make it, why take a chance on anything else.....'
no... this is bad, very bad.
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Well, I thought this series was weak and wasn't near what it could've been, just like Voyager. But this season did beat my expectations. B&B really did the whole Trek Universe a disservice. I'll miss not having "something Trek" to kick around anymore
oh.. I still got all them DVDs I can rewatch!
oh.. I still got all them DVDs I can rewatch!