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Michael Corvin 10-28-04 10:45 AM


Originally posted by darthlurker
Jack Skeleton would have you believe the beach is safe. But do you really want to live in a place where the burnt remains of your deceased loved ones are in plain sight? Where wild boars can attack at any given plot point? Where minorities are constantly fighting over valuables? I think not. The Caves are the only sensible choice this year. The bee problem has been handled, and there's plenty more luggage to look through. We'll find more than what's waiting for you on the Beach...which is sand and undrinkable water.

Vote Caves 2004

I'm Darthlurker, and I approve of this message.

Not to mention, you can always vacation at the beach.

ruk 10-28-04 11:00 AM

i missed this episode, does anyone know if they will air it again, thanks

Verbal Gorilla 10-28-04 11:00 AM


Originally posted by rfduncan
Okay again this thread has splintered off into "what's going to happen next" land.

I have a comment about WHAT HAPPENED. Did anyone suspect the Sun's father is actually part of the Korean mafia? There was only one hint about it when Jin came home bloody, but Sun's desire to "escape" in such a deviously desperate and covert manner leads one to ponder how deeply entrenched in "the family" Jin was.

I thought that was the point from the very beginning considering her nervousness. I gander Sun always had an "idea" (i.e. knew) what her father really did, but took the often chose path of just burring her head in the sand. Once Jin came in with the blood, it was all but confirmed. Not necessarily Mafia, but at least brutul unscrupulous shady business.

Originally posted by rfduncan

Also why they were on a plane from Syndey to America still doesn't make much sense. Why were they headed there without being able to speak English? Why would Sun go through all the effort to coordinate an airport terminal escape when she could have easily make an exit at some point during their stay in America?

One, not going to America. Two, why would it be easier to leave in America then Sydney? I would wonder why she didn't just take off while Jin was at work. The only reason I can see is that based on her father's business, she probably had 24/7 security in Korea. This idea is strenghten by the line, "They'll assumes you were kidnapped".

Finally, I guess only English speakers can go on vaction to places where they don't speak a lick of the language...

Triple S 10-28-04 11:06 AM

Both Jackskeleton and darthlurker, if that are their real names, are leading you all in the wrong direction. My, er, THE island is a big place, with vast lands on gumdrop trees and lickable wallpaper not unlike those seen in the popular movie Willy Wonka! Also, there are parts of the island with not just plain old "normal" water, but instead Gatorade Propel! In five different flavors! If that isn't enough for you, Quentin Tarentino, William H Macy, and Kevin Smith will join your party and discuss films with YOU! All this and all the transport you can handle as we TOUR THE ISLAND BABY!!

<b>Vote <s>Nader</s> ROBOT T-REX!!</b>

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Ranger 10-28-04 11:10 AM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
The beach has done wonders for us so far. The level of terrorist threats from wild boar have been down and immigrants are not a threat anymore with the use of handcuffs. The Caves want you to believe that they are safer. Looking at their record, they held dead bodies. Can it really be trusted? It wants you to believe that it can save you but with it's record of bee stings and thrown around luggage can you really believe it's with all its flip flop?

Vote Beach 2004

Ah, I've got it now! Once the group gets to the caves, Locke will turn into an evil wizard, make the hot women his slaves, and put a curse on the rest. The three wise men (Korean guy, Michael, and Sayid) who stayed on the beach will save the day!

GuessWho 10-28-04 11:11 AM


Originally posted by Tandem
I've got it!

They will split into two tribes. The beach dwellers will be known as the Eloi. They will lie around on the beach all day and build fires at night to protect themselves from the evil Morlock tribe.

The cave dwellers or Morlocks will toil at rebuilding society as they remember it by constructing crude machinery in their underground caverns. They will become over-sensitive to the sunlight and only be able to come out of their dark caves at night at which time they will prey on the defenseless Eloi.

:lol:

Just letting you know that at least one person got your joke.

rfduncan 10-28-04 11:18 AM


Originally posted by Verbal Gorilla
Finally, I guess only English speakers can go on vaction to places where they don't speak a lick of the language...
Then why do they only make flight announcements in the Korean airport in English for flights to Singapore? :lol:;)

Morf 10-28-04 11:23 AM


Originally posted by ruk
i missed this episode, does anyone know if they will air it again, thanks
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.

Mazje 10-28-04 11:32 AM

Might I also add that if we explore enough caves, we might eventually find pylons? And how, exactly, are the beach dwellers going to ward off the Sleestaks?


Also, who thinks Locke is going to die before he reveals whatever it is he saw to the other survivors?

DaveNinja 10-28-04 11:34 AM

ok, i want to figure out what happened in this episode with respect to Sun.
Did she and her husband run away from her fathers business to start a new life? Or, did she try to run away and was caught by her husband? Or, did she pass on the chance and later in life (before this flight) saw that it was 11:15 and it reminded her of her missed chance? Or, did she wish she was on a island that granted wishes and had polar bears and it came true?

next week episode isnt going to be on here because of a basketball game. sucko!

datagirl7 10-28-04 11:35 AM


Originally posted by Verbal Gorilla
I The only reason I can see is that based on her father's business, she probably had 24/7 security in Korea. This idea is strenghten by the line, "They'll assumes you were kidnapped".

I'm wondering how she learned English without anyone noticing.

Snowmaker 10-28-04 11:35 AM


Originally posted by Morf
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.
Not true. They've rerun a lot of the Lost episodes on Saturday nights. They did two full hours just last Saturday.

Red Dog 10-28-04 11:37 AM

Where was the hot blonde chick this episode?

JasonF 10-28-04 11:41 AM


Originally posted by Morf
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.
ABC has been rerunning Lost and Desperate Housewives on Saturdays. I know they are rerunning last week's DH this Saturday; I don't know whether they are also rerunning Lost, but I would guess that they are.

Mazje 10-28-04 11:45 AM

I was under the impression they were only rerunning them during the World Series. Now that it's over...they may stop this practice (I hope not, since it's a great way to catch up if you miss it). So be warned.

JasonF 10-28-04 11:47 AM


Originally posted by DaveNinja
ok, i want to figure out what happened in this episode with respect to Sun.
Did she and her husband run away from her fathers business to start a new life? Or, did she try to run away and was caught by her husband? Or, did she pass on the chance and later in life (before this flight) saw that it was 11:15 and it reminded her of her missed chance? Or, did she wish she was on a island that granted wishes and had polar bears and it came true?

next week episode isnt going to be on here because of a basketball game. sucko!

Her father is in organized crime. Her then-boyfriend got involved with her father's organization as a condition of being able to maryr her. Working for her criminal father corrupted him from the nice waiter who gave her a flower to the evil gangster who came home with blood on his shirt. The passage of time was indicated by the growth of the puppy into a full grown dog, and the cruelty of Jin was showcased by his angry command to Sun that she get the dog away from him.

Jin and Sun were going from Korea to L.A. We don't know why, and it's probably not important. Sun was going to take the opportunity to run away. She hooked up with a group that would help her escape, took some classes to learn English, and met with her contact, who disguised herself as Sun's interior decorator. The plan was for Sun to make a break for it at the Sydney Airport at 11:15. But Sun chickened out when the time came, in part due to her memories of what a nice guy Jin had been when he was just a waiter. So she and Jin got on the plane to L.A. and wound up on the Island of Magical Wishing Robot Dinosaur Polar Bears.

The airport announcement about the flight to Singapore was just an airport announcement. Jack had just finished at the ticket counter and Jin and Sun were still waiting in line; the fact that Oceania Airlines had a flight to Singapore preparing for departure had nothing to do with their flight to Los Angeles.

Chew 10-28-04 11:50 AM


Originally posted by darthlurker
I was under the impression they were only rerunning them during the World Series. Now that it's over...they may stop this practice (I hope not, since it's a great way to catch up if you miss it). So be warned.
There was a recent USAToday article talking about Saturday night repeats. The networks are very happy with them as they still bring in good ratings, but don't cost anything. From the article, I got the impression we shouldn't expect this new tactic to change anytime soon.

JasonF 10-28-04 11:56 AM


Originally posted by darthlurker
I was under the impression they were only rerunning them during the World Series. Now that it's over...they may stop this practice (I hope not, since it's a great way to catch up if you miss it). So be warned.
I decided to check ABC.com It turns out they are running Monsters Inc. followed by Desperate Housewives on Saturday. There's no indication they plan to rerun this week's episode of Lost. Sorry, ruk.

tofu 10-28-04 12:00 PM


Originally posted by datagirl7
I'm wondering how she learned English without anyone noticing.
Well, if your husband works all day and leaves you at home with the dog, I'd imagine that it's not that hard.

Groucho 10-28-04 12:02 PM


Originally posted by ruk
i missed this episode, does anyone know if they will air it again, thanks
If you look around a bit, you might find a torrent of ways to watch the episode.

Triple S 10-28-04 12:34 PM

This episode will air again on Nov 6th.

DaveNinja 10-28-04 12:53 PM

Thanks for the recap JasonF. i just wasnt sure what went on between the interior decorator scene and the airport scene.

I bet the call for the flight to singapore was for the polar bears and t-rex, thats why their plane crashed on the other side of the island and why their pissed.

Keith123 10-28-04 12:56 PM


Originally posted by LorenzoL
Can anybody give me a recap of next week episode in the spoiler tags based on the promo?

Here in Canada, they did not show the promo for next week since they were advertising a new time on Monday at 8pm. Made it sound like they were going to be repeats but I'm not 100% sure.

Here ya go...
Spoiler:
Charlie is shown running from something- possibly the Island "Monster". Kate says Sayid has a plan to "find the source of the distress call" but she and Sayid do not trust Sawyer in this quest. Charlie asks for his drugs back from Locke. Charlie and Jack are in one of the caves when it appears to collapse with Charlie escaping but Kate asking about Jack- "is he alive?!"

Keith123 10-28-04 01:00 PM

Excellent recap on Jin and Sun, JasonF. Thanks.

LorenzoL 10-28-04 01:02 PM

My initial suspicions of the Korean couple was that they got together through an arranged marriage.

However after watching this episode, I was shocked to see that they were actually in love with each other when they met. Being that Jin was of a lower social status than Sun, he basically sold his "soul" to the devil (in a way) in order to get together with her.

In Korean society, social status and standing is very relevant still in order to get the consent of the parents for the union. They don't look too kindly of a person with lower social status (especially if it's a guy) to ask permission for marriage.


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