The Apprentice 10/7/2004
 

Pamela was fired!?!

Trump seems to be systematically eliminating the best people. Was he this batshit crazy last season? I didn't watch.

The women seem to be purposefully trying to make sure they all get fired. They seem more interested in their own petty rivalries than in winning these tasks.

He's insane. I can't stand him.

I didn't agree with his decision either. Pamela was an excellent leader in my opinion, but she was an outsider to the group, and easily expendable.

That was just wrong. wrong wrong wrong. Damn it. The harpies set pam up to lose. She brought them closer to winning than they have ever been and they turn on her because she told them what to do. She knew them for 2 hours and relied on them to actually do what they said they could, and when they couldn't (Maria) they blamed Pam.

Goodbye Pamela, you were my favorite Amazon warrior princess.

D

I thought she was way too bossy and stubborn. None of the women are really all that strong though.

He's really inconsistent this year. He doesn't fire the horrible leaders for the jobs they do wrong. Then he fires a good leader for losing the task. There's no way of knowing if the price was too low.

Why did they go by gross profit anyway? Net profit seems more important, especially since they picked their own price points.

Tiny Stacy sucks.

This show sucks. George gives a glowing review and Trump fires her for the opposite reasons. She knew the woman for a total of 1 hour before she had to assign tasks. I love the argument, "she didn't assign anything for herself to do." How about supervising you whiny little back stabbing bitches!!! Also, the why did you bring so and so argument. There are only 5 fuckups on the team and she brought 2 biggest and has to answer for it? Stacy is a back stabbing bitch and Maria is a fucking moron, that's the reason why tehy were brought in. "Oh, I didn't like Pam leadership style, she was too tough. She's my age and telling me what to do. I would much rather have the absolute clown fuck situations that occured in the previous tasks than have a strong leader whip our asses into shape."

I hate this damn show.

I don't have a clue what Trump was thinking and I agree the real test should be net profit. That would have rightfully changed the outcome.

George had it right in the board room and Trump completely ignored him.

While overall Pamela is definitely more able then most on Apex, in this task she set the price too high, came across wrong to her team, and didn't change Maria out when she could have. After the rehearsal, Maria obviously showed that this wasn't her forte. Pamela should have jumped in and scrubbed some walls, and maybe she wouldn't have been fired.

I think Trump is basically chosing the smartest and best people from Apex and systematically eliminating them so the following week we can see more exciting and hilarious cat fights.

Well, its the reason why I watch the show.

Or even more impressively, some ceilings.

All they had to sell was ONE more sponge to win .


One.


:lol:

I agree with you. George basically said that Pamela was a great leader and Trump totally ignored him....Carolyn basically agreed too. After he fired Pamela, George ddin't say a single word to Trump. On the other hand, Carolyn was on Trump's nuts again saying that he did the right thing.

Lil Stacy is a troll. She has zero business experience....she's a freakin' lawyer...she's gotta go.

Maria blinks like 10 times more than a normal human.

However, I still like this show...it's getting funny.

In regards to pricing, I agreed with Raj, that when you set a price you need to set it a lil lower than some threshhold. I think that $69.99 would've been a good price.

The girls should've sold their product at $24.99 or something like that.

Also, to me the guys are pretty forgettable. I can only remember Raj, Andy, and Kevin. The rest are all the same to me.

As i said before, this is turning into The Benefactor. Trump seems like he's getting more and more random about his decisions. Pamela didn't assess the strengths of her team? In the whole hour or two that you gave her before the challenge?

If you think about it, Trump basically gave Apex the win no matter what. If Apex won the contest, a guy would be booted. And if Apex lost, he'd kick off the person who was never really ON the Apex team in the first place. :confused:

Now, about the other important part of the show:
Anna... :drool:

I gotta disagree with everyone here. I really liked that episode. The Raj vs Anna stuff was totally classic. While microStacy is annoying as hell, she wasn't the reason they lost. Neither was Maria the epileptic mannequin. Give a choice of those two or the project leader, who picked the too high price point, made unilateral decisions, alienated her entire team from the get go and then stubbonly refused to even acknowledge the defeat ("We did not lose in Vietnam; it was a tie!"), who else could Trump have chosen? I agree it was a totally shitty position to put Pamela into, being the newcomer and forced to be the PM for the second time, right away, but that doesn't change the facts of that particular boardroom.

Why would anyone want to buy 30 magic erasers? :hscratch: If you really needed one, you could go to the store and get one for 2 or 3 bucks without paying shipping costs or waiting. Who are these couch-potato housewives who need an endless supply of these things. It's time they took the crayons away from their kids! I was flabbergasted that they moved 600 of those units.

And the reason they didn't use net profit (or any profit for that matter, it was gross sales) was that it would have revealed on National TV how much mark up QVC puts on a product. If it's shown that QVC pays $18.50 for each one of those grills that they're selling for $71, how many units do you think they are going to move on October 11th?

I watched the ep and couldn't help but thinking Pam came off totally wrong to those girls. Granted, you aren't there to make friends, but she was just way too abrasive. The way she was talking to people was just a little bit too extreme. Ice queen for sure.

It was lame for Trump to talk about the girls getting blown out when they lost by $10. And really the guys price point could have been wrong in the real world. If they priced it at $65 or something maybe they would have moved 200 more units. I would love to see the all mighty Carolyn head up a team for a week so they could lose too.

Little Stacy sucks and her always carrying some legal pads and stuff into the board room irritates me. Actually none of the girls seem capable to run a large business. All so petty or fragile. I was sure Trump would try to take a woman to the last two this year, but I think there's going to be another guy vs guy deal in the finale.

The tennis portion was the best part ever on the Apprentice for pure goofy fun.

We all do realize how many times Trump has filed for some form of bankruptcy protection, right? :D

Blonde Jennifer is probably the best of the women. I have no idea who's the strongest of the men, except that Raj seems to always find a way to stand out and get noticed.

anyone else think that it is kind of wierd that they were only beat by $10? sounds a litle fishy

anna k and johnny mac.. how could you go wrong? heck, they should have their own show (that isn;t on msnbc and sucks)

I thought Pamela did a great job in getting those whiney gals in line.

It will be interesting to see who they turn on next....hopefully it will be that tiny troll Stacy, beautiful but incompetent Maria, or Ivana who is in constant denial of her own fuck ups...acutally, they are all in denial of their own fuck ups. :)

"F" Trump!!

Let's see ... you add a new player to the team - who brings them closer to a win than they ever have been.. she takes charge, George and Carolyn like her and say she is a "good strong leader."

Now she brings Maria back into the board room! Trump sees that Maria has been in the board room 3 times !! Now this does not send up a red flag to trump - here Maria is AGAIN and this woman is working with her for the first time - maybe she is a problem.

I agree - this should have been on Net Profits! I would have sold the grills at $9.95 - and sold them out of everything they had.. I would have a huge loss - but who cares I would file bankruptcy --- The Trump Way!!

I don't understand the Pamela love. The best thing you can say about her is that she drove the team into a brick wall...BUT SHE DIDN'T BLINK!

I'm not surprised Pamela was fired. I knew she was goner when she kept insisting that they tied. Now, I didn't go to Harvard, but that ain't what Trump wanted to hear. Remember what happened to Bradford? One stupid remark in the boardroom, and your ass is grass in this game.

But on the other hand, I also agree that Trump is firing the more capable people early. I don't think he's looking for capable people, but going for shock and sensation instead. We all know Trump has an ego bigger than God's, and he wants nothing more than to be famous... being a successful businessman is only a means to that end.

Raj. Raj is awesome. Burnett wasted him on "The Apprentice," and should've put him on "Survivor." (And that show has the lamest bunch yet.)

Stacy. At first I thought she was a Hobbit, but I think she gets tinier and tinier each week. When she gets fired, George is going to have to carry her out to the taxi in a tea cup.

I still can't believe Trump said "or your ass is grass" on national TV. What a dork! :lol:

Little Stacy should of been the one that was fired. I don't think a women is going to win this one. Pamela did pretty good actually.

My money is on Jenn (blonde).

Probably because she is the first woman on the show who tried to cut through all the catty bullshit and win.

The big mystery is was Pamela dropping the F bomb on the bus or just the S bomb.

Carolyn = Pamela. Both seem as abrasive as 40 grit sandpaper, both are ice cold, they both delight in poking fun of others looks/persona/mannerisms (quite an odd sense of humor). But enough about the Queen bitches of the universe....

Anna was smoking hot, came off as a sweetheart, and had those guys drooling. Yahoo.com has some scenes from their play and man, it is hard to take your eye off of her. Even McEnroe's ego wannt enough to overcome that.

Mini-Stacy is the cancer of the girl group.

woah.....wen did i become a senior member? :-)

when you hit 250 posts. Congrats :up:

Next stop, DVD Talk Special Edition at 1000 posts.

Midget Stacy is a total bitch.

If I were that black girl I would have pulled out the magic 8-ball two weeks ago and went ghetto sorceress on her ass.


and then took out that fine ass short haired woman after gutting the asian chick.

-screwy-

I hope Raj wins.


You have to love his Clinton diss "Give me a slick willie serve."


:)

Little Stacie is a cancer.

It's as if the only thing she's there to do is disagree with the team leader of the week.

I can't wait for next weeks episode.The preview they showed of Carolyn being brought to tears laughing by the guy's bumbling should be worth it alone :)

The joke was funny the first time he told it...but then he told it again, and again, and again...

These chicks are setting the women's movement back decades. rotfl

Pamela really was an idiot when it came to the legal issues. Totally deserved to be fired just for that.

I agree completely. Bossy does not equal leadership.

Why don't they mix the teams up already? I need a new vibe soon, our I'm outta there.