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FantasticVSDoom 10-08-04 10:35 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
I don't understand the Pamela love. The best thing you can say about her is that she drove the team into a brick wall...BUT SHE DIDN'T BLINK!

I dont understand all the Pamela love either...Remember she was the only team leader of the men's team that lost, and she should have been fired then. $30.00 for fucking sponges?? Thats why she got fired. She has made some bad decisions, and Trump mentioned that when he fired her.

I definitly think a woman will win this year...This show has been pretty predictable, and is setting up just like last year.

jaeufraser 10-09-04 01:51 AM

Honestly without stating net profits as opposed to gross, how can you possibly determine the winner? As someone said, they could've just priced the grill at 10 bucks and sold an enormous amount. Those sponges might've cost $20 to produce for all we know. It just makes the whole exercise meaningless since that factor doesn't seem to come into the equation when determining the winner. Sure, QVC would rather not divulge that information (not to mention did they pick their respective products? there's more to sales then just how much it costs and presentation. Seems like market demand, timing of the show, lots of other factors arent' even considered. Considering the difference was $10 (which doesn't really tell much since we have no idea what their expenses would be) and considering we have no idea the popularity of said products, saturation of said products, etc etc. I don't know, it was amusing but seems more like a weak business project than an accurate one. Pamela seemed to me to do a good job. Expecting her to "read" these people well in an hour is a rather ridiculous expectation, something I doubt even Trump could do much better.

I've never really watched this show before, it was interesting, but the results seem rather arbitrary rather than really rooted in business skill. Still, a better show than most reality programs.

CrashNBurn69 10-09-04 03:11 AM

did anyone catch carolyn on conan last night? its amazing how pretty she looks when shes smiling and laughing. she reminds me of princess diana.

DodgingCars 10-09-04 07:26 PM


Originally posted by jaeufraser
Honestly without stating net profits as opposed to gross, how can you possibly determine the winner? As someone said, they could've just priced the grill at 10 bucks and sold an enormous amount.
They would have to have sold at least 7 times as many. Which, might have been possible, but who knows.

A couple of notes:

1. I agree with Red Dog and Groucho. Pamela was a horrible leader. She's lost twice now. She's bossy and a micro-manager. She didn't whip the girls into shape, she made them all hate her. None of the respected her.

2. They didn't call the guys' $10 win a blow out. They called the guys' 4-in-a-row win a blow out.

jaeufraser 10-09-04 10:21 PM


Originally posted by DodgingCars
They would have to have sold at least 7 times as many. Which, might have been possible, but who knows.


True, but that's not the point. It just means in the end, the girls very well could have won, since we have no idea what their expenses would've been. The 9.99 thing is an extreme, but the base cost is not only relevant, but one of the main deciding factors in setting a price. Ignoring it is the same as saying...it costs nothing. I guess that was where they were set at, but I just didn't see much information at how these guys arrived at their price choices, so it seemed pretty haphazard (especially since price was the main issue that they focused on as why they won or not).

DodgingCars 10-09-04 11:01 PM


Originally posted by jaeufraser
True, but that's not the point. It just means in the end, the girls very well could have won, since we have no idea what their expenses would've been. The 9.99 thing is an extreme, but the base cost is not only relevant, but one of the main deciding factors in setting a price. Ignoring it is the same as saying...it costs nothing. I guess that was where they were set at, but I just didn't see much information at how these guys arrived at their price choices, so it seemed pretty haphazard (especially since price was the main issue that they focused on as why they won or not).
I think that Net Profit would have been better, but I don't think how they did it was necessarily bad. From what I remember, both teams were able to pick their product and their price. There was strategy involved in both of those decisions. If you set the price too low, you might sell more, but not make enough money.

conscience 10-09-04 11:06 PM


Originally posted by Dabaomb
-screwy-
"I'm not crazy."

Dabaomb 10-09-04 11:39 PM


Originally posted by conscience
"I'm not crazy."
maybe not, but that post you made was pretty freakin' wierd.

Also, the Saturday night presentation of the show adds a lot to the boardroom.

Basically, everyone voted that Pamela should be fired (although you could tell that Ivana only voted that way cuz everyone else did...she was gonna say someone else but realized that strategically that would've been a bad idea).

conscience 10-10-04 01:32 AM


Originally posted by Dabaomb
maybe not, but that post you made was pretty freakin' wierd.

Also, the Saturday night presentation of the show adds a lot to the boardroom.

Basically, everyone voted that Pamela should be fired (although you could tell that Ivana only voted that way cuz everyone else did...she was gonna say someone else but realized that strategically that would've been a bad idea).


Um. It was obviously a joke towards the black Stacy being voted off for being "crazy".

But that midget stacy is still a bitch.

Dabaomb 10-10-04 03:31 PM


Originally posted by conscience
Um. It was obviously a joke towards the black Stacy being voted off for being "crazy".

But that midget stacy is still a bitch.

sorry, my bad.

grip 10-11-04 06:28 PM


Originally posted by conscience
Midget Stacy is a total bitch.

If I were that black girl I would have pulled out the magic 8-ball two weeks ago and went ghetto sorceress on her ass.


and then took out that fine ass short haired woman after gutting the asian chick.

I liked Conscience gettin all Jules'ed up. Getting his Quentin T mojo workin.


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