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Old 10-07-04 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by swisher59


1. someone mentioned purgatory. i'm not sure if anyone is familiar with the absurdist jean paul sarte and his famous 'no exit' play which implies 'hell is other people'. it's not really sci-fi, but this could be a spiritual stretch--everyone died in a plane crash and they're all in hell. the 'beasts' are really demons and what not, or devices to create conflict between all the other residents of hell! hey i'm not saying i believe it, but it's something to offer.

I really really hope it isn't something like this. That would be extremely disappointing.
Old 10-07-04 | 02:05 PM
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the heaven/hell purgatory thing was dismissed by the writers, right? i think i saw that earlier in the thread.
Old 10-07-04 | 02:08 PM
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although I have read the thread....I would appreciate a breakdown of the first half of the program. I caught the second half....I can pretty much surmize what occured to lead up to the final half. But I would like to know how the first half stood on it's own.
Old 10-07-04 | 02:11 PM
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I had to laugh at Sawyer when he tried to give the high and almighty speech about doing something that Jack couldn't do and then he messed it up by missing his heart. There's definitely something behind his anger. I tend to think that his wife and kids may have left him or something.



I think we got a glimpse that his bark is much worse than his bite. He was shaken and broken after he shot the marshall. There is definitely more to his story than the stereotypical redneck. We started to see that last night.

Hopefully, this show will continue down the path it appears it is travelling. We first see people as they want to be seen, then the island strips them down to who they truly are, and it ultimately changes them to be something completely different.

Since we are all speculating, I'll take a stab. This is what I see happening, to Locke, for example. I don't think he is bad or evil, but he is more than just a nice older man. We will find out what and who he really is, and then he will change, perhaps turning crazy and bad? I don't really know, but I look forward to finding out.
Old 10-07-04 | 02:19 PM
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The thing I wonder about Locke is if he got that eye scar before or after the crash. Everyone else is pretty much unscathed.
Old 10-07-04 | 02:37 PM
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can't tell by this pic... which is the closest i've seen of his face before the crash...



but others do have scrapes and such. the pregnant woman and jack definitely do.
Old 10-07-04 | 02:51 PM
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For show recaps and whatnot:

http://televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=136
Old 10-07-04 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Big Boy Laroux
did he say "a miracle HAPPENED here" or "a miracle WILL HAPPEN here"?

i thought it was the latter, but I could be wrong.
"happened"

Because the black guy(forget his name) responds to Walt, something to the effect that a miracle sure DID happen, we survived a plane crash. Kinda sarcastic response.
Old 10-07-04 | 03:39 PM
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Does anyone else remember seeing the TV spots in the months before the show started, and seeing the dog vanish? I could've sworn I saw that happen, and keep waiting to see it actually happen on the show.

Also, are criminals ever really transported on passenger jets?
Old 10-07-04 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by goLUCKY
I guess he didn't make it, because they found him in a tree, IIRC.
No no, pay attention, his BODY is stuck on the island, but when he "died" on the island, he went on to the afterlife.

Old 10-07-04 | 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by heimerSWT


Also, are criminals ever really transported on passenger jets?

It happened in Passenger 57 so it must be true.
Old 10-07-04 | 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Morf
Regarding the scenes for next week: was it just me, or were those the same scenes we were shown last week? Maybe I'm just psychic.

Gasspasser, my fellow Illinois RateBeerian, here is a brief synapsis of the episode:

- The hikers set up camp on their way back from the mountaintop. They decide to lie to the group about hearing the French distress call so that they don't cause a mass panic. The lifeguard guy takes the gun in the middle of the night to stand guard, but everyone objects and decides that Kate should be the one holding the gun.

- The Doc finds the mugshots of Kate on the marshall, who keeps saying that Kate is dangerous and cannot be trusted. Hurley sees the mugshots as well.

- Flashbacks show Kate nomadically wandering through Australia. She stays with a widowed farmer for 3 months and helps him around the farm. They befriend each other, but the farmer discovers that she is wanted, and turns her in to get the reward money so he can pay off his mortgage. He tells her this when he is driving her to the "train station" when she notices that they are being followed by the marshall. She causes an accident in which the farmer is knocked unconscious. Instead of running and saving herself, she drags the farmer to safety and is captured by the marshall.

- The father, when looking for his son's dog, is chased by the "monster" and ends up running into the Korean woman when she is bathing. Uncomfortableness ensues.

- Locke carves a whistle out of wood and uses it to attract the dog, Vincent. He ties Vincent up and tells the father so that he can bring the dog to his son.

- The marshall isn't doing too well, and will surely die. Kate wants to put the marshall out of his misery so that he won't suffer for days. Doc won't let her. The crazy wildman redneck guy ends up shooting the marshall because he wanted to die, but he shot him in the chest, not the head. The gunshot didn't kill him - it punctured his lung. Off camera, it is assummed that the Doc ends the marshall's life.

- Kate tries to tell Doc what she did to get in trouble, but he doesn't want to know. He says that everyone died on the planecrash, and everyone is starting fresh.

I probably missed something, but that is a general breakdown of what happened.
Old 10-07-04 | 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by heimerSWT
are criminals ever really transported on passenger jets?
Yes.

Once when I was flying back from Hawaii, two cops had a murder suspect in chains and an orange prison jump suit on my flight.
Old 10-07-04 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
I was also surprised they already revealed Locke's secret.
OK I haven't watched the ep. yet, but I can't stand it, what was his secret???
Old 10-07-04 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by sven
Spoiler:
It showed them all complaining about being hungry cuz there is no food. Then Locke throws a knife into seat next to Sawyer's face to get his attention then says 'lets go hunting". Then it shows the black lady and the doc talking. She says her husband isnt dead. He says everyone in the back is dead. She says they prolly think the same thing about us. Then you hear the monster and doc says RUN! Then is shows trees going down on their way to locke and you get a shot from the POV of the monster looking down on locke.
You left out the part about
Spoiler:
the shot of the the mystery man in the spotless [suggesting he wasn't in the crash] suit, right about the time the black lady and Jack were talking in the voiceover about whether her husband was alive, and the shot of Jack running to look for that man...
This is the same dude that are in pics on some fansites, btw....
Old 10-07-04 | 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by heimerSWT
Also, are criminals ever really transported on passenger jets? [/B]
Yes they are. What else would they do, ship them UPS?
Old 10-07-04 | 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by 12thmonkey (unnecessary spoilers removed)
So, last week Walt looks at a comic book, sees a polar bear - then suddenly a real polar bear shows up

Last night, Walt apparently wants the rain to stop so his father can look for Vincent and instantly the rain stops.

Coincidence? Beats me.
The comic book was in Spanish and the kid said he found it. To me that implied that the comic book could've been telling a story from the island. We better see that comic book again because that's too weird to just gloss over. I would have forgotten all about it if it weren't for these threads.
Old 10-07-04 | 04:25 PM
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yeah, and like mentioned before, if it tells a story of the island, winged-helmet flash (speaking spanish) has to show up sooner or later.
Old 10-07-04 | 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by King Jaspo
It could be sarcasm. "You want to know what I did? ... I killed a politician's son for raping my little sister". Revenge is against the law. This has been a common theme among TV shows since the beginning. Good people punished for serving justice when society fails. The rich politician gives monetary incentive for the law enforcement community to hunt her down.
Or.... she could've been framed, or falsely accused, or something. She could've asked that with bitterness, as in "I'm sure you'll think I did it like everyone else does". Just a thought.
Old 10-07-04 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Morf
Are you sure you want to do that? You'd be the first person in a "Lost" thread to do such a thing.
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Old 10-07-04 | 05:04 PM
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Yes they are. What else would they do, ship them UPS?
Con Air!!!
Old 10-07-04 | 05:09 PM
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Speaking of Kate, how did none of the other survivors notice she was in handcuffs during the flight?
Old 10-07-04 | 05:16 PM
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I thought she had a sweater or jacket over them when she grabbed her cup in the 2nd episode.
Old 10-07-04 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Roto
The comic book was in Spanish and the kid said he found it. To me that implied that the comic book could've been telling a story from the island. We better see that comic book again because that's too weird to just gloss over. I would have forgotten all about it if it weren't for these threads.
Translation of the comic:
Flash: [first bubble]What are your plans?
[second bubble]Why does it trouble you tell us? Anyhow, we are your puppets.

Green Cape Guy: [first bubble]We understand how you feel. What we did almost a half century ago was bad, but what they have done to you since then is beyond any kind of forgiveness.
[second bubble]But yes, somebody had to pay for that.

Purple Guy: [first bubble]My plan is to die.
[second bubble]Because of Gunther and all of you I am plagued with diseases. But I will share my pain.
Credit here for, it seems, identifying the comic:
http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/alien-x.php
Unknown to the heroes, Alien X was subjected to decades of experiments. Eventually, Alien X was infected with a terminal cancerous disease.
Learning it would soon die, Alien X easily broke free of its imprisonment in the late 1990s. Seeking revenge against those that contributed to its death sentence, Alien X killed Gunther, now a General in charge of the government project and then went after Alan (Green Lantern) Scott and Jay (Flash) Garrick. The heroes were caught by surprise and Garrick had mere moments to leave a clue to his disappearance.
[...]
Now under Alien X's mental control, the Golden Age heroes unearthed its starship, which was buried in the arctic. When the younger heroes arrived, Alien X ordered the Golden Age Flash and Green Lantern to fight their younger counterparts. Wally West and Kyle Rayner were able to free their elder namesakes and together they defeated Alien X. While West took Garrick and Scott to safety, Rayner tried to help the dying Alien X. Surprised by this sign of compassion, Alien X knew it was too little too late for him and the planet Earth. Rather than face imprisonment once more, Alien X took his own life. [Green Lantern/Flash: Faster Friends #1]
So no tropical island, it seems. I'd guess it was just a throw-away gag bit for the polar bear frame.

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Old 10-07-04 | 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by tofu
The thing I wonder about Locke is if he got that eye scar before or after the crash. Everyone else is pretty much unscathed.
Well except for the marshall and the people who died in the crash.


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