Groucho

BTW, Kate said to Jack: "You want to know what I did?" Which implies that she's guilty.

mrpayroll

This is my story also, except for the wife! Plus I'm Tivoing Smallvile.

I really think the breaks are shorter, cause I will go away to do something and before I know it the show has started up again.

Chris

Big Boy Laroux

damn tivo... now i have to pad the end by a minute...

i'm not sure how i feel about kate's past. i kept thinking, "tell us (or show us) what she did!" but they just showed us a recent flashback that seemed as if it was there to just take up time. but i guess that whole flashback was just to set up her "i want to ask a favor" line, to show she is a good girl at heart. like most here, i don't want a sympathetic crime. it think it would be great for the integrity of the show if it were not a "revenge crime" or the like.

it's almost as if i think this show is a mini-series, and things will get wrapped up quickly. i think i just need to have a little more patience, considering the lack of good shows on tv.

and who in the hell shoots someone in the heart anymore? i thought that when kate walked out, the marshall had the gun and was going to shoot himself. but "bad boy" showed his weaknesses. *whimpering* "i only had one bullet"

great ending there, with Jack having to kill the marshall minutes after being told he didn't have the guts to.

oh, one more thing... Kate needed a light for the fire, and BAM! the guy shows up with a lighter.

as for the spoiler for next week,

Michael Corvin

lol. This is quickly becoming the "there isn't enough time!" of this show.

nevermind

Good episode. I have TiVo, too, and it was cut off at the end.

But why is everyone saying "damn TiVo"?

Damn ABC for going long. My TiVo stopped recording exactly when it was supposed to - 8:00.

I'm just padding 5 minutes from now on.

tofu

I had to laugh at Sawyer when he tried to give the high and almighty speech about doing something that Jack couldn't do and then he messed it up by missing his heart. There's definitely something behind his anger. I tend to think that his wife and kids may have left him or something.

I think Kate stole a lot of money. Although if she did, I don't know what she did with it.

I say the monster is just an angry elephant hopped up on steroids.

King Jaspo

It could be sarcasm. "You want to know what I did? ... I killed a politician's son for raping my little sister". Revenge is against the law. This has been a common theme among TV shows since the beginning. Good people punished for serving justice when society fails. The rich politician gives monetary incentive for the law enforcement community to hunt her down.

Ted The Bug

If the gun only had one bullet left, then it was completely pointless last week when they seperated the clip from the rest of the gun right?

The one remaining bullet would have already been in the chamber right?

Big Boy Laroux

yeah, you're right. i'm sorry tivo. i shouldn't curse at you. it's not your fault, you stopped at the exact time i specified.

damn abc.


last week, they did take the bullet out of the chamber, in addition to removing the clip.

renaldow

The Iraqi guy told her to unchamber that round.

DigIt

A) There were two rounds in the gun: one in the clip and one in the chamber. Last week, the one in the chamber was effectively discarded when it was ejected and left on the jungle floor.

B) There was one round in the gun, and when it was ejected Sayid picked it up and put it into the clip.

C) Careless plothole.

DigIt

I'd really appreciate it if we didn't bring racist comments into an otherwise civil thread, please.

I just noticed that you also posted sexually suggestive comments, too.

adamblast

I'm sure it's related to that letter or paper we saw Sawyer looking at in private; we don't know its contents yet...

My monster guess: genetically oversized wild boar. A human being killed his brother.

Meatpants

Doesn't it seem the "monster" has some invisible properties? It would be kind of hard for them to not see a gigantic elephant.

maxpower

For whatever reason I thought the show aired at 8 pm cst...so at just before 7:30 I came across the scene with Kate in the truck flashback.

Could someone give a detailed description of what happened in the first 27 minutes?

I'd appreciate it.

Shady12

My guess after the pilot was a ticked off Wooly Mammoth.. Something big enough to shake the ground and get up high enough to pull that guy out of the cockpit. And the thing the guy heard in the woods and ran from..sounded like a wild boar maybe.

I'm glad I watched Lost live, and ReplayTV'd Smallville considering I would have missed the end..

And I can't believe the 'talk of the beach' wasn't the frickin polar bear..I mean, I can't imagine anything much crazier than seeing a polar bear on a tropical island.

If it is a wooly mammoth...and there's a polar bear...could be that there are animals that have survived and/or evolved to be different than versions of animals found in other parts of the world..like that may look like a polar bear, but over the millenia the ones there have evolved to be able to surivive in that type of environment.

King Jaspo

The sounds the animal made in this episode was like I would imagine a wild boar to make. Genetic??? .. naw. Canadian Bacon ... yes.

There is obviously more than one critter.

Morf

I gave a breakdown of the episode already. Read the thread.

cleaver

If Kate was a white collar criminal or killed someone in the heat of passion, then hopefully the marshall wouldn't feel the need to shackle or strangle her. I'm going to go out on a limb and say she's a notorious Canadian assassin who doesn't use handguns.

Michael Corvin

I don't believe they told anyone about the polar bear.

renaldow

Shackles for transportation of prisoners is policy, regardless of the crime.

If she killed someone for revenge or something similar, it's very doubtful that she would have a bounty on her head and they'd extradite her from Australia.

Also, she's not really Canadian. US citizens that are hiding out or don't want to be pegged as Americans always say they're Canadians. I haven't heard her say 'aboot' or 'eh' yet.

Dr. DVD

I have only caught bits of this program, and from what I have read, this is something better saved for DVD when you can watch it marathon style.

swisher59

yah and maybe the black family might find 40s and fried chicken. didn't we discuss in the last post how unlikely DDK will submit himself to fulfilling asian stereotypes?

on another note, two theories:

1. someone mentioned purgatory. i'm not sure if anyone is familiar with the absurdist jean paul sarte and his famous 'no exit' play which implies 'hell is other people'. it's not really sci-fi, but this could be a spiritual stretch--everyone died in a plane crash and they're all in hell. the 'beasts' are really demons and what not, or devices to create conflict between all the other residents of hell! hey i'm not saying i believe it, but it's something to offer.

2. also, remember how locke says 'a miracle happened HERE'. maybe he's been to the island before or something (cause he seems the least distressed. i mean hell, when everyone was trying to get shelter in the rain he was livin it up. or the whole orange peel in the mouth playfulness). a miracle--as in the miracle of creation. again, the whole man-made beast thing. he probably knows it's not a threat.

ideas?

Big Boy Laroux

did he say "a miracle HAPPENED here" or "a miracle WILL HAPPEN here"?

i thought it was the latter, but I could be wrong.

Iron_Giant

DVD needs to include:
1. Longer versions of each show: 5 to 10 minutes
2. Making of
3. Deleted sceens
4. Clues to what is really going on


Maybe if the DVD sells really well it will help offset the cost of the show and next season we will not have to have so many commersial breaks.