Star Trek series differences
08-28-04 | 08:58 AM
#52
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Originally posted by Mike
I just recently started watching TOS and find it to be fantastic - campy yet pretty clever.
Figured I should check out some of the movies. Watched 1 & 2, can't believe they're considered the same thing. The movies are so damn slick looking. I realize you can't make the movie as cheaply as the TV show, but I figured they'd at least realize one of the most endaring points of the original series.
I'm sure this is old news to fans, but I was quite disappointed.
My question - do Star Trek fans consider the movies to be their own entity? It sure is hard for me to, what with the same characters.
I just recently started watching TOS and find it to be fantastic - campy yet pretty clever.
Figured I should check out some of the movies. Watched 1 & 2, can't believe they're considered the same thing. The movies are so damn slick looking. I realize you can't make the movie as cheaply as the TV show, but I figured they'd at least realize one of the most endaring points of the original series.
I'm sure this is old news to fans, but I was quite disappointed.
My question - do Star Trek fans consider the movies to be their own entity? It sure is hard for me to, what with the same characters.
Search for Spock was pretty cool though and "W"oyage Home was BRILLIANT! One of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
08-28-04 | 01:42 PM
#53
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I wasn't a huge fan of Voyager either, although I'll admit it had some standout episodes. One of which involved Lt. Barclay attempting to contact Voyager. Another was a two-parter involving a World War II scenario that moved off the holodeck into the rest of the ship.
08-30-04 | 06:55 AM
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I don't mean slick as in "cool" or as a way to describe something I liked. I mean it as a storytelling style, not necessarily good or bad.
A "slick" movie is extremely planned and done with a spare-no-expense kind of attitude. Perfection at all costs.
The opposite of a "slick" film would be one where the illusions of an actual world inside the film are not completely sold. A background that appears to be fake, plastic rocks, less-than-stellar minatures.
The conviction with which TOS asked you to believe it's own not-so-slick environment was something I appreciated.
Fun discussion, by the way.
A "slick" movie is extremely planned and done with a spare-no-expense kind of attitude. Perfection at all costs.
The opposite of a "slick" film would be one where the illusions of an actual world inside the film are not completely sold. A background that appears to be fake, plastic rocks, less-than-stellar minatures.
The conviction with which TOS asked you to believe it's own not-so-slick environment was something I appreciated.
Fun discussion, by the way.
09-02-04 | 06:57 PM
#55
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Interesting take from some of the people close to Trek...
The New York Times reports on this past weekend's James Doohan Farewell Convention in Hollywood, this time including quotations from several STAR TREK personalities who weigh in on the health of the franchise that turns 38 next month.
"I felt that STAR TREK was like a beached whale," Leonard Nimoy said of the period immediately following STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE. "I think something similar is happening now. STAR TREK is in this stranded situation. The ideas that were propelling it have run dry."
TNG's 'Tasha Yar', who appears in the new TREKKIES 2 documentary, echoed the sentiment.
"As soon as one series ends, the next one begins right away," she said. "How can you sustain that?"
TNG cast mate LeVar Burton ('Geordi') agrees.
"They need to shut the whole thing down, wait five years, create an interest, an excitement, a hunger for it again."
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE executive producer Manny Coto recently told TrekWeb that he feels like the reverse is true, however.
"There doesn't have to be an end at all," Coto said. "I would be developing the next show, right now. I don't buy the whole [oversaturation thing]. Good product will always bring them. People love STAR TREK. To my mind there should be another show starting up next year so we can have a whole STAR TREK night."
Coto spoke to the NYT this weekend as well, revealing a new tidbit about the upcoming Vulcan Civil War arc on STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE: the story will parallel "the war in Iraq and the direction of the country."
Paramount executive Garry Hart tells the Times that STAR TREK's television future is not as bleak as it may seem, saying, "I have no doubt there will be a demand for more STAR TREK on television."
TREK II and VI director Nicholas Meyer told the paper that the Hollywood tendency to make franchise pictures sometimes results in box office flops.
"Whether it's other movies, comic books, video games, it doesn't matter, as long as there is some presale," he says. "Which is not to say they can't turn out a good movie. A lot of good things are done for the wrong reasons."
Coto can rearrange the deck chairs on that Titanic all he wants, but it ain't gonna change the fact that Ent. is a lame duck.
The New York Times reports on this past weekend's James Doohan Farewell Convention in Hollywood, this time including quotations from several STAR TREK personalities who weigh in on the health of the franchise that turns 38 next month.
"I felt that STAR TREK was like a beached whale," Leonard Nimoy said of the period immediately following STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE. "I think something similar is happening now. STAR TREK is in this stranded situation. The ideas that were propelling it have run dry."
TNG's 'Tasha Yar', who appears in the new TREKKIES 2 documentary, echoed the sentiment.
"As soon as one series ends, the next one begins right away," she said. "How can you sustain that?"
TNG cast mate LeVar Burton ('Geordi') agrees.
"They need to shut the whole thing down, wait five years, create an interest, an excitement, a hunger for it again."
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE executive producer Manny Coto recently told TrekWeb that he feels like the reverse is true, however.
"There doesn't have to be an end at all," Coto said. "I would be developing the next show, right now. I don't buy the whole [oversaturation thing]. Good product will always bring them. People love STAR TREK. To my mind there should be another show starting up next year so we can have a whole STAR TREK night."
Coto spoke to the NYT this weekend as well, revealing a new tidbit about the upcoming Vulcan Civil War arc on STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE: the story will parallel "the war in Iraq and the direction of the country."
Paramount executive Garry Hart tells the Times that STAR TREK's television future is not as bleak as it may seem, saying, "I have no doubt there will be a demand for more STAR TREK on television."
TREK II and VI director Nicholas Meyer told the paper that the Hollywood tendency to make franchise pictures sometimes results in box office flops.
"Whether it's other movies, comic books, video games, it doesn't matter, as long as there is some presale," he says. "Which is not to say they can't turn out a good movie. A lot of good things are done for the wrong reasons."
Coto can rearrange the deck chairs on that Titanic all he wants, but it ain't gonna change the fact that Ent. is a lame duck.
09-04-04 | 03:43 PM
#56
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Originally posted by riley_dude
Coto can rearrange the deck chairs on that Titanic all he wants, but it ain't gonna change the fact that Ent. is a lame duck.
Coto can rearrange the deck chairs on that Titanic all he wants, but it ain't gonna change the fact that Ent. is a lame duck.
A rapid succession of scenes from the first three seasons cut together.
INT. ARCHER'S BEDROOM, EARTH- NIGHT
He sits upright, sweating.
ARCHER
Jesus. I hope space isn't that boring.
His comm beeps.
COMM
Captain Archer, the Enterprise will be ready to depart in 12 hours.
09-05-04 | 02:04 PM
#57
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Originally posted by riley_dude
Coto can rearrange the deck chairs on that Titanic all he wants, but it ain't gonna change the fact that Ent. is a lame duck.
Coto can rearrange the deck chairs on that Titanic all he wants, but it ain't gonna change the fact that Ent. is a lame duck.
The Romulan war, the founding of the Federation, first contact with any of the species that have grown to populate Trek.
A good writer could do some great stories.
