WB: Sorry about that whole canceling 'Angel' thing. Our bad.
08-15-04, 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by riley_dude
Show's without the anchor star? Isn't that like having Laverne and Shirley without Laverne and Shirley?
Show's without the anchor star? Isn't that like having Laverne and Shirley without Laverne and Shirley?
08-15-04, 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by breaux124
Not disagreeing with you but didn't weren't the Scooby-Doo movies considered a success? I think the first one made over $150mil.
Not disagreeing with you but didn't weren't the Scooby-Doo movies considered a success? I think the first one made over $150mil.
08-15-04, 10:18 AM
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While I can laugh at the WB's stupidity I'm still glad it went down the way it did. Better to go out on such a high note than to drag on until it died a whimpering death. Wedon has not proven himself to be capable of 6th and 7th seasons and Angel's 5th was showing some signs of strain. The finale was so incredible and I hope they leave it at that.
08-15-04, 06:22 PM
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I think ME is waiting to see how Serenity (the Firefly movie) does to determine where they can go with the Slayerverse. I would love to see a big-screen version of it.
08-15-04, 08:40 PM
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Angel's 5th was showing some signs of strain
One of the huge drawing factors of both Buffy and Angel for me was the fact that they had full season arcs. It wasn't like other sci-fi/fantasy shows where arcs only lasted a few episodes and every other episode were devoted to "monsters of the week." I liked watching a show which would give me a nice pay-off at the end of the season for tuning into the rest of the season.
When watching the fifth season of Angel, it seemed that taking out the season arc took out some of the show's heart.
08-15-04, 08:54 PM
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Well, the final season or two of L&S, they did it with just Laverne and the supporting characters, so they were halfway there. It did suck horribly, though, which actually works in favor of your argument.
Well, the final season or two of L&S, they did it with just Laverne and the supporting characters, so they were halfway there. It did suck horribly, though, which actually works in favor of your argument.
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08-16-04, 01:12 PM
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By the way, Garth Ancier's also the genius who cancelled Freaks & Geeks. How this man finds work as a network executive and is not a Walmart cashier is beyond my comprehension. I'm hoping he will never meet Bonnie Hammer--if the 2 of them ever teamed up not even the Justice League would be able to stop them.
08-16-04, 02:43 PM
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Personally I'm glad Buffy retired when it did, but Angel deserved a full-fledged ending! I mean first WB tells M.E. to avoid season wide story arcs which they pretty much do (totally unnatural for a Whedon show) and then cancel it anyway. It should have been allowed a whole season with a grand story arc, a real powerful "big bad" and a series resolution. What we got was fine, but it only helped to highlight what the show COULD have been all season had it not been creatively stiffled by the WB suits
Well, the final season or two of L&S, they did it with just Laverne and the supporting characters, so they were halfway there. It did suck horribly, though, which actually works in favor of your argument.
08-16-04, 03:07 PM
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the beauty of the second half of Angel S5 was that it put the first half into perspective. It's what W&H was doing to the gang, taking them off their core mission. i bet in DVD form knowing that it leads to one of the finest series finales ever made S5 will play a lot better than it did on TV with 4 week breaks after every episode and seemingly no chance of a good ending.
08-16-04, 07:17 PM
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the beauty of the second half of Angel S5 was that it put the first half into perspective. It's what W&H was doing to the gang, taking them off their core mission.
08-18-04, 02:45 PM
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Interesting exerpt from a recent interview with Joss about the end of Angel....
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Whedon told fans that the possibility of "Angel" TV movies still
exists, though whether they would be done at the WB or another network is still in question. He is adamant though that the series finale was not a cliff-hanger:"A cliff-hanger is about 'What happened to everybody?' This isn't about what happened to everybody. This show is about a very simple thing: You never ever get to stop fighting if you want to be a decent human being. And often, like the character of Wesley, it's a battle that I have lost".
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Whedon told fans that the possibility of "Angel" TV movies still
exists, though whether they would be done at the WB or another network is still in question. He is adamant though that the series finale was not a cliff-hanger:"A cliff-hanger is about 'What happened to everybody?' This isn't about what happened to everybody. This show is about a very simple thing: You never ever get to stop fighting if you want to be a decent human being. And often, like the character of Wesley, it's a battle that I have lost".
08-18-04, 03:59 PM
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TV Guide chatted with actor David Boreanaz who says the rumors he's not up for an Angel movie are nonsense. He's willing to go another round, but not on TV.
"It would have to be a theatrical release," he says. "I'm not into the movie-of-the-week [idea]."
WB execs said they were interested in doing TV films. "I know they wanted to do, like, six films," Boreanaz added, "It's not that I'm against it; it just needs to be a bigger challenge. When you do something for five seasons, you want to continue to challenge yourself... go to another level with it rather than just doing the same thing you've been doing."
Next up for Boreanaz is the comedy Mr. Fix It and he's also signed up for another high-profile franchise film that he insists is not Superman. "It's better," he teases, adding, "'Four' would be the magic number — that's all I'm going to say."
He could mean Jurassic Park 4, Fantastic Four, or Indiana Jones 4. We'll let you know when we find out more.
"It would have to be a theatrical release," he says. "I'm not into the movie-of-the-week [idea]."
WB execs said they were interested in doing TV films. "I know they wanted to do, like, six films," Boreanaz added, "It's not that I'm against it; it just needs to be a bigger challenge. When you do something for five seasons, you want to continue to challenge yourself... go to another level with it rather than just doing the same thing you've been doing."
Next up for Boreanaz is the comedy Mr. Fix It and he's also signed up for another high-profile franchise film that he insists is not Superman. "It's better," he teases, adding, "'Four' would be the magic number — that's all I'm going to say."
He could mean Jurassic Park 4, Fantastic Four, or Indiana Jones 4. We'll let you know when we find out more.
08-18-04, 08:31 PM
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You know what might be interesting?
They could make three movies: An "Angel" movie, a "Buffy" movie, and an "Angel/Buffy" movie. Shoot all three simultaneously like LOTR or the Matrix sequels to cut costs. Doing this could also allow for a bit more breathing room, as one of the problems with movies based on TV series (like Trek) is that the non-leads get short-changed. It would be easier to squeeze all of the main characters... Spike, Angel, Illyria, Buffy, Willow, Giles, Xander, Dawn, and Faith ... into three movies than into one.
And by the by, hasn't the Fantastic Four already been cast? Don't think it's that one. I also don't think they're casting Indiana Jones 4 yet, either.
They could make three movies: An "Angel" movie, a "Buffy" movie, and an "Angel/Buffy" movie. Shoot all three simultaneously like LOTR or the Matrix sequels to cut costs. Doing this could also allow for a bit more breathing room, as one of the problems with movies based on TV series (like Trek) is that the non-leads get short-changed. It would be easier to squeeze all of the main characters... Spike, Angel, Illyria, Buffy, Willow, Giles, Xander, Dawn, and Faith ... into three movies than into one.
And by the by, hasn't the Fantastic Four already been cast? Don't think it's that one. I also don't think they're casting Indiana Jones 4 yet, either.
08-19-04, 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by riley_dude
Oh god, that was horrible. Didnt they explain her (Shirley) out with a letter or something?
Oh god, that was horrible. Didnt they explain her (Shirley) out with a letter or something?
08-19-04, 06:18 PM
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HELP ME OUT!!
I've been catching up with Angel on TNT and on Monday my replayTV recorded Episode named "Forgiving", but according to the show descriptions it was actually the episode before called "Sleep Tight"
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...2/epid-118316/
But then on Tuesday my replayTV never recorded anything, and on Wednesday it recorded "Double or Nothing" which means I missed "Forgiving". Does anyone watch TNT? Did my ReplayTV get messed up or did TNT screw up?
I've been catching up with Angel on TNT and on Monday my replayTV recorded Episode named "Forgiving", but according to the show descriptions it was actually the episode before called "Sleep Tight"
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...2/epid-118316/
But then on Tuesday my replayTV never recorded anything, and on Wednesday it recorded "Double or Nothing" which means I missed "Forgiving". Does anyone watch TNT? Did my ReplayTV get messed up or did TNT screw up?
08-20-04, 08:31 PM
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"If Angel had come back next year, it would have been post-apocalyptic. I don't mean like Dark Angel with just a bunch of industrial buildings, I mean Mad Max Road Warrior. Season six would have been hugely post-apocalyptic, with Angel as the Road Warrior. That was the idea for the next season, so with that in mind we knew the end of season five was heading into something huge and global and monumental. In the finale, they basically start a war and it's a war that will have huge good and evil implications of almost Biblical proportions. It would have been very different next year, and a little more sci-fi, I guess." - David Fury
08-23-04, 12:54 PM
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It is posted on saveangel.org that the new programming head of WB is pushing for at least one Angel tv movie. Since DB is not likely to do it, it or they maybe centered around one of the other characters. Spike is the leading candidate right now.
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08-23-04, 02:26 PM
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Since DB is not likely to do it, it or they maybe centered around one of the other characters. Spike is the leading candidate right now.
If David doesnt do it, they should not do it at all. WB blew it plain and simple. If they hadnt cancelled it they would be filming the new season already.
08-23-04, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by riley_dude
I don't think most people have an interest in that. Spike has been overdone and should stay a supporting character.
If David doesnt do it, they should not do it at all. WB blew it plain and simple. If they hadnt cancelled it they would be filming the new season already.
I don't think most people have an interest in that. Spike has been overdone and should stay a supporting character.
If David doesnt do it, they should not do it at all. WB blew it plain and simple. If they hadnt cancelled it they would be filming the new season already.
I love Angel, but I love Spike too - I'd watch a spinoff with him as the lead in a second, especially if other castmemembers were joining him.
08-23-04, 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by WarriorPrincess
Guess I'm not "most people". I love Angel, but I love Spike too - I'd watch a spinoff with him as the lead in a second, especially if other castmemembers were joining him.
Guess I'm not "most people".
I love Angel, but I love Spike too - I'd watch a spinoff with him as the lead in a second, especially if other castmemembers were joining him.