Jorja Fox and George Eads Fired from CSI!!!
07-15-04 | 11:45 PM
#26
DVD Talk Hero
Originally posted by Red Dog
It's like L&O - no major change unless Peterson left.
It's like L&O - no major change unless Peterson left.
07-15-04 | 11:46 PM
#28
DVD Talk Legend
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 20,195
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes
on
7 Posts
From: Sesame Street (the apt. next to Bob's)
I don't watch the show, so I have no interest in how damage this causes. What I am happy about though is a show finally standing up against folks who have valid contracts and still pull stunts like this for more money. There are one hundred billion actors who would do anything for a gig like this. These two are replaceable.
07-15-04 | 11:57 PM
#30
DVD Talk Hero
"CSI" Axes Two Stars
Thursday July 15 10:35 PM ET
By Joal Ryan
It could be another gruesome CSI crime scene. Except this one doesn't involve dead bodies. Just axed actors.
George Eads and Jorja Fox, who played two of the younger, hotter forensics experts you'll find poking around a corpse, have been whacked from TV's top-rated drama series, Daily Variety reported on its Website Thursday.
The firings came after both Eads and Fox reportedly made it known to their bosses that, in the tradition of employees everywhere, they'd like to make more money.
Eads expressed his desire for a bigger paycheck by skipping the first day of shooting Thursday for CSI's fifth season, Variety said.
Fox, who did show up for work, drew the wrath of CBS execs for failing to, as Variety put it, "reply to a letter asking her if she had any plans to not show up for work."
In both cases, CBS invoked breach of contract. Eads and Fox each had two years left on their TV standard seven-year contracts.
Not pausing for a moment at their chalk outlines, Variety said the network has already begun searching for Eads' and Fox's replacements.
"The network is not commenting," CBS told E!
Eads, 36, played hair and fiber guy Nick Stokes on CSI. Like Fox, he had been with the show since its October 2000 debut.
Fox, 35, played material and elements point person Sara Sidle on the series.
If it sounds as CBS is trying to put the fear of God into its star employees, it may just be.
Last summer, the network steamed as Everybody Loves Raymond costars Patricia Heaton, Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle called in sick for a variety of ailments over the first 10 days of production. Brad Garrett just stayed away--period.
The cast's health, not to mention Garrett's attendance, improved considerably once they were awarded raises.
The Eyeball, though, has not always been as amenable--particularly if the players aren't name-brand stars. It once threatened to gut the cast of Becker (Ted Danson, not included) if its actors didn't end a work stoppage.
Sometimes not even stars have been immune. In 1982, Dukes of Hazzard pin-ups John Schneider and Tom Wopat went to war over merchandising revenue. The Duke boys, Bo and Duke, subsequently were shown the highway, and replaced by two "fake" Dukes, Coy and Vance. (Duke and Wopat returned the following season.)
None of Thursday's wrangling is likely to bolster the mood of CSI main man William Petersen. The actor/producer, who saw his show earn an Emmy nomination Thursday as Outstanding Drama Series, has been griping for months about CBS' franchising of CSI, as evidenced in CSI: Miami and the upcoming CSI: New York.
Last spring, Petersen warned that this coming TV year would be his last on the show, which was TV's top-rated drama, averaging more than 25 million viewers each week last season.
Thursday July 15 10:35 PM ET
By Joal Ryan
It could be another gruesome CSI crime scene. Except this one doesn't involve dead bodies. Just axed actors.
George Eads and Jorja Fox, who played two of the younger, hotter forensics experts you'll find poking around a corpse, have been whacked from TV's top-rated drama series, Daily Variety reported on its Website Thursday.
The firings came after both Eads and Fox reportedly made it known to their bosses that, in the tradition of employees everywhere, they'd like to make more money.
Eads expressed his desire for a bigger paycheck by skipping the first day of shooting Thursday for CSI's fifth season, Variety said.
Fox, who did show up for work, drew the wrath of CBS execs for failing to, as Variety put it, "reply to a letter asking her if she had any plans to not show up for work."
In both cases, CBS invoked breach of contract. Eads and Fox each had two years left on their TV standard seven-year contracts.
Not pausing for a moment at their chalk outlines, Variety said the network has already begun searching for Eads' and Fox's replacements.
"The network is not commenting," CBS told E!
Eads, 36, played hair and fiber guy Nick Stokes on CSI. Like Fox, he had been with the show since its October 2000 debut.
Fox, 35, played material and elements point person Sara Sidle on the series.
If it sounds as CBS is trying to put the fear of God into its star employees, it may just be.
Last summer, the network steamed as Everybody Loves Raymond costars Patricia Heaton, Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle called in sick for a variety of ailments over the first 10 days of production. Brad Garrett just stayed away--period.
The cast's health, not to mention Garrett's attendance, improved considerably once they were awarded raises.
The Eyeball, though, has not always been as amenable--particularly if the players aren't name-brand stars. It once threatened to gut the cast of Becker (Ted Danson, not included) if its actors didn't end a work stoppage.
Sometimes not even stars have been immune. In 1982, Dukes of Hazzard pin-ups John Schneider and Tom Wopat went to war over merchandising revenue. The Duke boys, Bo and Duke, subsequently were shown the highway, and replaced by two "fake" Dukes, Coy and Vance. (Duke and Wopat returned the following season.)
None of Thursday's wrangling is likely to bolster the mood of CSI main man William Petersen. The actor/producer, who saw his show earn an Emmy nomination Thursday as Outstanding Drama Series, has been griping for months about CBS' franchising of CSI, as evidenced in CSI: Miami and the upcoming CSI: New York.
Last spring, Petersen warned that this coming TV year would be his last on the show, which was TV's top-rated drama, averaging more than 25 million viewers each week last season.
07-16-04 | 12:31 AM
#31
DVD Talk God
Wow. I liked George, but hated Jorja. Kind of sucky news, but what are you going to do. Glad to see a network finally stepping up and not dicking around with these actors. You sign a contract, stick to it.
07-16-04 | 01:23 AM
#32
DVD Talk Legend
suckekeke
both were good. I wish it was warwick who left.
both were good. I wish it was warwick who left.
07-16-04 | 01:52 AM
#33
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: In the eastern upper lower midwest.
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big. I think it was within their right to ask for a raise, and though I agree a lot of stars get paid far more than they are worth, until I see some numbers showing how much they were getting until now, I'm gonna have to side with the actors on this one.
07-16-04 | 03:41 AM
#34
Senior Member
Fox, who did show up for work, drew the wrath of CBS execs for failing to, as Variety put it, "reply to a letter asking her if she had any plans to not show up for work."
Originally posted by mverleg1
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big.
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big.
07-16-04 | 04:55 AM
#35
DVD Talk Limited Edition
The woman's reason for being fired doesn't make any sense! I had to read the paragraph about 4 times just to understand why they said she was fired.
So she was fired because she didn't respond to a letter asking her if she was going to skip work....She shows up at work, which basically shows them that she wasn't skipping! AND THEY FIRED HER? What the hell?
So she was fired because she didn't respond to a letter asking her if she was going to skip work....She shows up at work, which basically shows them that she wasn't skipping! AND THEY FIRED HER? What the hell?
07-16-04 | 05:39 AM
#36
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 8,173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Columbia, MD
Originally posted by mverleg1
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big. I think it was within their right to ask for a raise, and though I agree a lot of stars get paid far more than they are worth, until I see some numbers showing how much they were getting until now, I'm gonna have to side with the actors on this one.
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big. I think it was within their right to ask for a raise, and though I agree a lot of stars get paid far more than they are worth, until I see some numbers showing how much they were getting until now, I'm gonna have to side with the actors on this one.
What would your company do if you just didn't bother to show up to work until they gave you a raise?
07-16-04 | 06:07 AM
#39
DVD Talk Legend
There was obviously a threat that she would not show up for work, hence the letter asking if she would. If she did not reply, and it was assumed that she would not show (as Eads did not), then it would likely cause a production shutdown and money would be lost. Although I think that it is extreme that she was fired for not replying to the letter (if that is in fact what happened), I think that just firing Eads for not showing up would have given her a loud and clear message that they were playing hardball.
As for Eads, he was a no one when this show started, unlike Fox. He has more to lose as well. Fox came from two top rated shows, and no doubt will get work elsewhere. Eads was never that great on the show, and could get blacklisted because of this.
I really wish more shows would do this to actors who try to hold the show ransom for money, like Kazmarek.
"Want more money, Valerie?...WATCH OUT FOR THAT CAR!!!"
As for Eads, he was a no one when this show started, unlike Fox. He has more to lose as well. Fox came from two top rated shows, and no doubt will get work elsewhere. Eads was never that great on the show, and could get blacklisted because of this.
I really wish more shows would do this to actors who try to hold the show ransom for money, like Kazmarek.
"Want more money, Valerie?...WATCH OUT FOR THAT CAR!!!"
07-16-04 | 06:08 AM
#40
DVD Talk Legend
Originally posted by Chew
Soooo, if they both say "my bad" and agree to come back to work at their current pay scale: will CBS take them back??
Soooo, if they both say "my bad" and agree to come back to work at their current pay scale: will CBS take them back??
07-16-04 | 06:50 AM
#41
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
Remember all the turmoil when James Gandolfini (The Sopranos) pulled a power play a couple of years ago? It's all about bargaining power, and it's doubtful that Eads or Fox have it in this situation.
07-16-04 | 06:59 AM
#42
DVD Talk Legend
Exactly. Fox and Eads are a part of an emseble cast in a non-character driven show. Galdolfini is the star and main character of his show. Without him, there is no show. Without Eads and Fox, CSI can go on.
07-16-04 | 07:12 AM
#43
DVD Talk Limited Edition
I actually had to go to IMDB to see what they looked like. All I knew was that they weren't the main 2 CSI people. They aren't in a position to be demanding more money if everyone else isn't.
07-16-04 | 07:46 AM
#44
Video Game Talk Editor
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 4,097
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Westchester, Los Angeles
There were conflicting reports about whether series stars Marg Helgenberger (news) and William Petersen were at work Thursday, but one source said that the only cast member on the set that day was Gary Dourdan.
07-16-04 | 08:29 AM
#47
Admin Emeritus
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 12,842
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
From: Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty state!
I will echo the "what the hell?" comments about firing Jorja Fox for not replying to a letter, yet showing up for work. I like her as an actress and I like her character.
Okay, I think she's hot. But I really do like her as an actress!
Okay, I think she's hot. But I really do like her as an actress!
