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Draven 07-15-04 11:45 PM


Originally posted by Red Dog
It's like L&O - no major change unless Peterson left.
I tune in for Marg.

MrX 07-15-04 11:45 PM


Originally posted by Patman
I don't find Jorja Fox even remotely attractive.
Neither do I

Charlie Goose 07-15-04 11:46 PM

I don't watch the show, so I have no interest in how damage this causes. What I am happy about though is a show finally standing up against folks who have valid contracts and still pull stunts like this for more money. There are one hundred billion actors who would do anything for a gig like this. These two are replaceable.

MrX 07-15-04 11:52 PM

You have to be an idiot in the first place to do it on a show like this. Where the people themselves take a back seat to the cases and are easily replaceable.

MrX 07-15-04 11:57 PM


"CSI" Axes Two Stars
Thursday July 15 10:35 PM ET

By Joal Ryan

It could be another gruesome CSI crime scene. Except this one doesn't involve dead bodies. Just axed actors.

George Eads and Jorja Fox, who played two of the younger, hotter forensics experts you'll find poking around a corpse, have been whacked from TV's top-rated drama series, Daily Variety reported on its Website Thursday.

The firings came after both Eads and Fox reportedly made it known to their bosses that, in the tradition of employees everywhere, they'd like to make more money.

Eads expressed his desire for a bigger paycheck by skipping the first day of shooting Thursday for CSI's fifth season, Variety said.

Fox, who did show up for work, drew the wrath of CBS execs for failing to, as Variety put it, "reply to a letter asking her if she had any plans to not show up for work."

In both cases, CBS invoked breach of contract. Eads and Fox each had two years left on their TV standard seven-year contracts.

Not pausing for a moment at their chalk outlines, Variety said the network has already begun searching for Eads' and Fox's replacements.

"The network is not commenting," CBS told E!

Eads, 36, played hair and fiber guy Nick Stokes on CSI. Like Fox, he had been with the show since its October 2000 debut.

Fox, 35, played material and elements point person Sara Sidle on the series.

If it sounds as CBS is trying to put the fear of God into its star employees, it may just be.

Last summer, the network steamed as Everybody Loves Raymond costars Patricia Heaton, Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle called in sick for a variety of ailments over the first 10 days of production. Brad Garrett just stayed away--period.

The cast's health, not to mention Garrett's attendance, improved considerably once they were awarded raises.

The Eyeball, though, has not always been as amenable--particularly if the players aren't name-brand stars. It once threatened to gut the cast of Becker (Ted Danson, not included) if its actors didn't end a work stoppage.

Sometimes not even stars have been immune. In 1982, Dukes of Hazzard pin-ups John Schneider and Tom Wopat went to war over merchandising revenue. The Duke boys, Bo and Duke, subsequently were shown the highway, and replaced by two "fake" Dukes, Coy and Vance. (Duke and Wopat returned the following season.)

None of Thursday's wrangling is likely to bolster the mood of CSI main man William Petersen. The actor/producer, who saw his show earn an Emmy nomination Thursday as Outstanding Drama Series, has been griping for months about CBS' franchising of CSI, as evidenced in CSI: Miami and the upcoming CSI: New York.

Last spring, Petersen warned that this coming TV year would be his last on the show, which was TV's top-rated drama, averaging more than 25 million viewers each week last season.

Deftones 07-16-04 12:31 AM

Wow. I liked George, but hated Jorja. Kind of sucky news, but what are you going to do. Glad to see a network finally stepping up and not dicking around with these actors. You sign a contract, stick to it.

BDB 07-16-04 01:23 AM

suckekeke

both were good. I wish it was warwick who left.

mverleg1 07-16-04 01:52 AM

I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big. I think it was within their right to ask for a raise, and though I agree a lot of stars get paid far more than they are worth, until I see some numbers showing how much they were getting until now, I'm gonna have to side with the actors on this one.

cerulean 07-16-04 03:41 AM


Fox, who did show up for work, drew the wrath of CBS execs for failing to, as Variety put it, "reply to a letter asking her if she had any plans to not show up for work."
This sounds like a pretty shaky reason to claim breach of contract.


Originally posted by mverleg1
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big.
I'd agree it's difficult to really know from the outside whether or not they're being unreasonable. It wouldn't surprise me if they are making less than supporting actors on CSI: Miami.

Seantn 07-16-04 04:55 AM

The woman's reason for being fired doesn't make any sense! I had to read the paragraph about 4 times just to understand why they said she was fired.

So she was fired because she didn't respond to a letter asking her if she was going to skip work....She shows up at work, which basically shows them that she wasn't skipping! AND THEY FIRED HER? What the hell?

Duran 07-16-04 05:39 AM


Originally posted by mverleg1
I have to disagree with those of you who say "great, they got what they deserved for trying to ask for more money when they signed a contract". I have yet to see figures for how much they have been making until now, but my guess is that they are still making what their original contract called for. I'm referring to the original contracts signed back before the show took off, when they were probably paid next to nothing because the show WASN'T big. I think it was within their right to ask for a raise, and though I agree a lot of stars get paid far more than they are worth, until I see some numbers showing how much they were getting until now, I'm gonna have to side with the actors on this one.
While I have no problem with the asking for a raise, if their method of bargaining involves not showing up until they receive one, they shouldn't be all that surprised when they are fired.

What would your company do if you just didn't bother to show up to work until they gave you a raise?

Seantn 07-16-04 05:49 AM

But the woman DID show up for work! And they fired her.

Chew 07-16-04 06:01 AM

Soooo, if they both say "my bad" and agree to come back to work at their current pay scale: will CBS take them back??

movieking 07-16-04 06:07 AM

There was obviously a threat that she would not show up for work, hence the letter asking if she would. If she did not reply, and it was assumed that she would not show (as Eads did not), then it would likely cause a production shutdown and money would be lost. Although I think that it is extreme that she was fired for not replying to the letter (if that is in fact what happened), I think that just firing Eads for not showing up would have given her a loud and clear message that they were playing hardball.

As for Eads, he was a no one when this show started, unlike Fox. He has more to lose as well. Fox came from two top rated shows, and no doubt will get work elsewhere. Eads was never that great on the show, and could get blacklisted because of this.

I really wish more shows would do this to actors who try to hold the show ransom for money, like Kazmarek.

"Want more money, Valerie?...WATCH OUT FOR THAT CAR!!!"

movieking 07-16-04 06:08 AM


Originally posted by Chew
Soooo, if they both say "my bad" and agree to come back to work at their current pay scale: will CBS take them back??
I don't think so, but you never know. It would be hard for the actor's to swallow their pride and go back, not to mention the fact that there demands have probably caused bitterness with the other cast members.

Patman 07-16-04 06:50 AM

Remember all the turmoil when James Gandolfini (The Sopranos) pulled a power play a couple of years ago? It's all about bargaining power, and it's doubtful that Eads or Fox have it in this situation.

movieking 07-16-04 06:59 AM

Exactly. Fox and Eads are a part of an emseble cast in a non-character driven show. Galdolfini is the star and main character of his show. Without him, there is no show. Without Eads and Fox, CSI can go on.

Seantn 07-16-04 07:12 AM

I actually had to go to IMDB to see what they looked like. All I knew was that they weren't the main 2 CSI people. They aren't in a position to be demanding more money if everyone else isn't.

Flay 07-16-04 07:46 AM


There were conflicting reports about whether series stars Marg Helgenberger (news) and William Petersen were at work Thursday, but one source said that the only cast member on the set that day was Gary Dourdan.
If Peterson and Helgenberger are standing by Eads and Fox, it's possible they will be hired back.

Seantn 07-16-04 08:02 AM

Or it will just become CSI: The Gary Dourdan Show
Whoever the hell that is.

Jeraden 07-16-04 08:21 AM

Which one is Gary Dourdan?

Static Cling 07-16-04 08:29 AM

I will echo the "what the hell?" comments about firing Jorja Fox for not replying to a letter, yet showing up for work. I like her as an actress and I like her character.

Okay, I think she's hot. But I really do like her as an actress!

movieking 07-16-04 08:40 AM

Gary Dourdan = Warrick Brown

Chew 07-16-04 08:40 AM

http://www.tvtome.com/images/shows/0/0/19-3854.jpg

For those questioning: the back row from L-R is Guilfoyle, Dourdon, Fox, Eads, and Szmanda.

Geofferson 07-16-04 09:05 AM


Originally posted by Patman
I don't find Jorja Fox even remotely attractive.
Agreed. I, for one, am actually glad to see her go. I liked Nick Stokes though. :(


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