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Bandoman 06-27-04 09:36 AM

Just watched Buffy S6: "Once More With Feeling"
 
I owe a HUGE debt of gratitude to those who convinced me to start watching Buffy/Angel and to stick with it.

I just finished watching "Once More With Feeling", and I have to say that was one of the best hours of television I have ever seen. I was worried that I would be disappointed because so many people hyped it, but I couldn't believe how great it was!

I expected humerous musical numbers, and there were some hilarious moments there. What I didn't expect was that the episode would also contain important plot/character development. There were actually tears in my eyes when
Spoiler:
Buffy admitted to the Scooby gang that they ripped her out of heaven and she now felt like she was in hell


Between this show and Babylon 5, you people have introduced me to some of the best entertainment around. Thank you. :up:

ClarkKentKY 06-27-04 12:20 PM

I also want to say a thank you to TVTalk! I just finished watching Buffy Last week. I went through 7 seasons in about 3 months, thanks to an awesome selection at my Library, and the FX reruns. I was extremely critical of Buffy before, having only seen an episode here or there. But watching it in sequence from beggining to end revealed probably one of the best shows i've seen.

And since i was enjoying Buffy so much i also jumped on the Angel bandwagon too. I'm up through the end of season 3 (once again thanks to an awesome library and TNT reruns) Also one of the best shows i've seen. (so far)

And back on the topic of ONCE MORE WITH FEELING I probably need to watch that episode again now that the DVD is out. I was much more impressed with episodes like HUSH or THE BODY. OMWF stands out as extremely ballsy, but i think maybe i didn't like it as much cause overall season 6 was the low point in my opinion. Much of what was revealed in that episode had already been dealt with repeatedly in the episodes leading up to it.

Since i enjoyed Buffy & Angel so much, and it was a recommendation from das, i'm going to try the babylon 5 if it ever gets into a regular rotation on Sci-Fi again.

Bandoman 06-27-04 01:10 PM

Clark, you will NOT regret investing your time in Babylon 5.

das Monkey 06-27-04 02:19 PM

Re: Just watched Buffy S6: "Once More With Feeling"
 

• Bandoman •

There were actually tears in my eyes when
Spoiler:
Buffy admitted to the Scooby gang that they ripped her out of heaven and she now felt like she was in hell

I think my favorite part of the episode is the reaction shot from Willow.

<b>Clark</b>, just get the DVDs. ;)

das

ClarkKentKY 06-27-04 02:29 PM

Thats a bit much to invest going in Blind. ;) I'm planning on Netflix'ing Alias Season 3 in the fall, and Angel Season 4, so among that i'll probably try Babylon Season 1.

I feel a little intimidated going into it. Will it hook me in the first season, or is there signifigant build-up time? Also, I heard there was going to be punch & pie?

das Monkey 06-27-04 02:48 PM

Significant build-up time, but as everyone who's tried it will tell you, it's worth it. Punch & pie are in the second season.

das

Bandoman 06-27-04 02:51 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
Punch & pie are in the second season.

das

Lots of punch. Not so much pie, though. ;)

das Monkey 06-27-04 03:08 PM


• Bandoman •

Lots of punch. Not so much pie, though. ;)

Punch and Flarn, then.

das

wendersfan 06-27-04 09:05 PM

Bando, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's my favorite hour of TV, ever.

matome 06-28-04 09:51 AM

Finally got to see it on the DVD and it certainly lives up to the hype. And I hate musicals too, so I wasn't too sure about this. I know a lot of people don't like the post S5 Buffy and it's downer mood, but I find myself thinking this may be the one of the best seasons of the show with episodes like this, Seeing Red, Villains, etc. Shit, I even enjoyed Doublemeat Palace.

devilshalo 06-28-04 12:02 PM

Re: Re: Just watched Buffy S6: "Once More With Feeling"
 

Originally posted by das Monkey
I think my favorite part of the episode is the reaction shot from Willow.
My favorite part of ANY episode is any reaction shot of Willow :drool:

Austin54 06-28-04 12:53 PM

Slightly off topic - suggest yopu check saveangel.org for the latest news. They are tying to get a spinoff made and they are posting news about the Buffy animated show. The latest report from the actor who played Spike is that they are doing a spinoff with him
Austin

ClarkKentKY 06-28-04 04:42 PM

I am TNT's complete lack of proper scene transitions
 
Watching Angel on TNT is so frustrating. They've created their own commercial breaks in the show, ignoring the normal breaks. In one episode Wesley was speaking and they cut to a break in mid sentence. Nearly in midword.

And i don't think it was to just add another commercial break. Sometimes they'll ignore the traditional break, then 30 seconds cut to their own self-made commercial break. I'm kinda surprised they can get away with it.

riley_dude 06-28-04 05:54 PM

Yep, Once More with Feeling is a great episode. Sometimes I still find myself singing the songs.


The latest report from the actor who played Spike is that they are doing a spinoff with him
James really needs to move on. Spike has runs its course. I am up for spinoffs but not this one.

dstrauss 06-28-04 05:57 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
Punch and Flarn, then.
No, punch and spoo.

astrochimp 06-28-04 06:11 PM

Glad you enjoyed it Bandoman :) Certainly one of my alltime favorite hours ive spent watching TV.

xVladx 06-29-04 09:29 AM

Re: I am TNT's complete lack of proper scene transitions
 

Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
Watching Angel on TNT is so frustrating. They've created their own commercial breaks in the show, ignoring the normal breaks. In one episode Wesley was speaking and they cut to a break in mid sentence. Nearly in midword.

And i don't think it was to just add another commercial break. Sometimes they'll ignore the traditional break, then 30 seconds cut to their own self-made commercial break. I'm kinda surprised they can get away with it.

I'm thinking that doing the weird commercial break is standard practice for cable networks or something. Me and my girlfriend finally sat down and watched most of Buffy through FX's daily showings (it's quite nice being able to watch an entire season in 11 days...), and not only were the commercials in the weird places you mentioned, but the episodes were also shortened to add more commercials in. Every episode that I'd seen enough to have practically memorized (The Gift, OMWF, Chosen, etc) had at least a line or two missing, and sometimes, in the case of OMWF, pretty substantial sections completely missing (the opening montage of the different characters, Dawn's dance number before Sweet's song among others).

costanza187 06-29-04 12:23 PM

Quick question, is the DVD version of OMWF that "longer" version??? I have the S6 DVD set, but I have not watched them yet... I started watching the series over not long ago, and I am in Season 3 right now.

otmetrud 06-29-04 12:32 PM

Yes, the OMWF on the S6 set is the original, uncut version.

costanza187 06-29-04 12:37 PM

Excellent! :)

Bandoman 06-29-04 01:20 PM

There was a cut version? What did they cut out?

areacode212 06-29-04 03:46 PM

Yeah, I just finished watching it myself, too, and I'm curious to know what they cut out.

What was everyone's favorite song from OMWF? I never cared much for Tara, but shit, Amber has a great voice. I liked the Xander/Anya "I'll Never Tell" number too, and Anya rocking out to "Bunnies" was hilarious.

Gil Jawetz 06-29-04 04:08 PM


Originally posted by Bandoman
There was a cut version? What did they cut out?
They cut a lot of little moments. The most annoying were everything after the bunny freakout in the medley in the magic shop and the dawn/goons dance sequence. But lots of other little things.

Lara Means 06-29-04 04:21 PM

They only aired the uncut version of this episode ONCE when it played the very first time since its length was about an hour and 15 minutes. The edits done to make it one hour were horrible and thank god I never need to watch that crap again.

MEJHarrison 06-29-04 04:28 PM

It seems like Dawn had an entire dance sequence cut out.

In fact, after spending multiple seconds researching this topic on Google, I uncovered the following: Once More, With Feeling - the short version

Bandoman 06-30-04 07:40 AM

Thanks. I'm glad I never saw the cut version.

B5Erik 06-30-04 10:35 AM

After watching OMWF again on DVD I really thought that it deserved to win an Emmy award for best drama. It was a phenomenal episode and it took what seemed like a crazy, perhaps even campy idea into a great dramatic episode.

...and I just loved Anya's song about "Bunnies!" :lol: :thumbsup:

Gil Jawetz 06-30-04 10:37 AM

I don't know if you already know this or not but the reason it wasn't up for an Emmy was that Whedon et al. forgot to submit it. You have to submit specific episodes for consideration and they flat-out forgot. It might not have been nominated or won anyway but it wasn't even in the running.

B5Erik 06-30-04 10:41 AM

I did not know that (that it wasn't submitted).

I still think it was so creative and innovative, and just so well written & executed that it deserved the emmy. Too bad that it never had a chance....

bboisvert 06-30-04 11:14 AM


Originally posted by Gil Jawetz
I don't know if you already know this or not but the reason it wasn't up for an Emmy was that Whedon et al. forgot to submit it. You have to submit specific episodes for consideration and they flat-out forgot. It might not have been nominated or won anyway but it wasn't even in the running.
That's odd, since Fox went through the trouble of including a "For Your Consideration" DVD to Variety subscribers. Someone should get fired. ;)


Also, for those who didn't know, there's a really great soundtrack CD available for this episode too:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...750471-2526367

Gil Jawetz 06-30-04 11:21 AM

I apparently remembered what happened wrong:


Curses! Emmy Bites Buffy Again!

Wednesday, June 26, 2002
TVGuide.com

Curses! Emmy Bites Buffy Again!

Buffy the Vampire Slayer has always waged an uphill battle for Emmy recognition. But now, not only does the UPN sleeper have to convince members of the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences that it's more than a freak show about vampires and demons and ghouls (oh my!), it apparently must also remind the Academy that it even exists! When ATAS sent out nomination ballots earlier this month, there was a glaring omission in the list of potential contenders in the drama writing category: Buffy's sublime musical episode, "Once More with Feeling," penned — punch lines, lyrics and all — by series creator Joss Whedon. What the hellmouth is going on here?

Human error was apparently to blame, but an ATAS spokesperson insists the problem has since been resolved. "We sent out a notification to the voters, which allowed them to cast their vote [for 'Once More with Feeling'] almost immediately," the rep tells TV Guide Online. "It was basically a supplement to the ballot. The situation was rectified ASAP and there were no repercussions from it."

Yeah, right. Those close to the situation say the snafu will likely cost Whedon whatever chance he had of getting noticed by voters. (The glitch will not impact Buffy in other categories, such as best drama series, nor will it hinder lead actress hopeful Sarah Michelle Gellar.) "Anybody who's going to get the ballot [will] make their initial picks and send it in," suggests a source at Fox, Buffy's production company. "There's always going to be a percentage of people who are not going to take the time to do what the postcard says, which is, 'Whoops, there was a mistake. Please consider ["Once More with Feeling"], and if you want to vote for it, we'll change your ballot.'"

Worse, even Buffy's code-cracking Scooby gang would have a tough time deciphering the addendum that the Academy mailed out, says goldderby.com award-show guru Tom O'Neil. "It entailed such an extraordinary effort that it was unlikely the voters would do it even if they loved the episode. So, it definitely curses its chances." — Michael Ausiello with Charlie Mason
http://www.TVguide.com/newsgossip/insider/020626a.asp

Bandoman 06-30-04 01:04 PM

How many Emmys did Buffy win?

ClarkKentKY 06-30-04 01:07 PM

2

- Outstanding Makeup 1998
- Outstanding Music Composition 1998

Bandoman 06-30-04 01:27 PM

That's it????

wendersfan 06-30-04 02:18 PM

Yeah, nobody's gonna take a show about a bunch of teenagers chasing vampires seriously, certainly not the people who hand out Emmys. Never mind that the show addressed serious issues with greater style, wit, and seriousness than nearly every other show in the history of TV.

xVladx 06-30-04 03:37 PM


Originally posted by wendersfan
Yeah, nobody's gonna take a show about a bunch of teenagers chasing vampires seriously, certainly not the people who hand out Emmys. Never mind that the show addressed serious issues with greater style, wit, and seriousness than nearly every other show in the history of TV.
Yeah, if anything, Buffy would be more likely to win something like a Hugo (or is that one a strictly Sci-Fi thing?).

ClarkKentKY 06-30-04 04:23 PM

The only time the Emmy's even nominated it for a Non-Makeup or Non-Music award was for writing and cinematography on "HUSH" It lost both nominations to The West Wing.

I find it ironic that the only episode that was ever nominated for outstanding writing was an episode where none of the characters spoke for 35 minutes.

Austin54 07-01-04 03:24 PM

I am surprised that it even won the tow awards with the way it was treated.
Austin

dstrauss 07-03-04 08:45 AM

Buffy never won a Hugo.

Hugos cover the entire world of speculative fiction, including science fiction, skiffy, horror and fantasy.

Best Dramatic Presentation in recent years:

1995: Star Trek TNG "All Good Things"
1996: Babylon 5 "The Coming of Shadows"
1997: Babylon 5 "Severed Dreams"
1998: Contact
1999: The Truman Show
2000: Galaxy Quest
2001: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
2002: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

The 2004 Hugos will be presented at WorldCon in a couple months.

dstrauss 07-03-04 08:46 AM

Whoops!

I forgot they split the Hugo into short and long form in 2003.

2003 Dramatic Presentation, Short Form: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "Conversations With Dead People"


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