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Old 04-01-04, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by candyrocket786
So..... because he has only a high school diploma, Troy doesn't get the job. bullshit!
I thought it was telling that Troy admitted earlier that the lack of education on his resume holds him back. It makes me wonder why he has never gone to night school or anything now that he has achieved some success. If he knows it hurts him and hasn't done anything about it, that doesn't say much about how driven he is to succeed.
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All I can say is--Poor Bill. Two people get eliminated next week, and if Bill is saddled with a Kwamme, he'll get eliminated too, lol. The funny thing is, I could almost see Kwamme winning by some sort of dumb luck. If that happened, I'd never watch the show again, since they picked a guy that didn't do anything the entire show.

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The education angle is ridiculous. It is obvious that Trump will create a company that suits the skills of the Apprentice. Frankly, I don't what Kwame would excel at running except a fake autograph signing session.

One more note: Amy looks so much better with straight hair.
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I missed the previews for next weeks show??..Why the hell is the queen bitch coming back??

That penthouse was amzaing but why didn't anybody say "it looks even better at night with the city lights". I thaught that would have been an obvious selling point

The editing was also good again since we were left with the impression Nick/Amy only sold there's for $30k.

Did anybody find it odd that couple come backs to bid with like 2 minutes left. That was very supsicious. I wonder if that could have been a "plant" from the show. Boy what a scandal that would be

Overall good show and I was sad to see Troy go. Yes he was a loose cannon but I liked his personality and his friendhsip with Kwame was cool
Old 04-01-04, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Jadzia
I thought it was telling that Troy admitted earlier that the lack of education on his resume holds him back. It makes me wonder why he has never gone to night school or anything now that he has achieved some success. If he knows it hurts him and hasn't done anything about it, that doesn't say much about how driven he is to succeed.

So basically, Troy was gone from day one.

Maybe, I'm analyzing this show too much, but overall I thought decision pretty much indicated that someone w/o an "Institutionalized Education" is not qualified to run a company.

Hopefully, Troy will be successful in his future endeavors.
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Is an "institutionalized education" something received through correspondance at a prison?
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Troys been on thin ice for a while. It didnt mean Kwame was better (I don't think he's shown that he is) -- it's just that of the two---Troy was more directly responsible for the last few losses than he was.

Trump can't see Troy running a company either -- so what does it matter whether it's now or later?

I think Ames really likes Nick---she was truly pained when he father mentioned his "women" problems. They'll probably be togather when the stress of the show is gone.
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Originally posted by silentbob007
Is an "institutionalized education" something received through correspondance at a prison?
Ask Troy.......
Old 04-01-04, 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by candyrocket786
So..... because he has only a high school diploma, Troy doesn't get the job. bullshit!
That sounds like quite a logical reason, actually - he's just not qualified. Presumably, there's a lot more that goes into the job than being able to sweet talk people.
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Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
That sounds like quite a logical reason, actually - he's just not qualified. Presumably, there's a lot more that goes into the job than being able to sweet talk people.
True...but then why put him through a 12-week interview if he is not qualified for the position in the first place?
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Originally posted by candyrocket786
True...but then why put him through a 12-week interview if he is not qualified for the position in the first place?

My thought exactly. What more would someone with only a HS diploma have to proof that he is more worthy than someone with a Harvard MBA. Kwame got schooled by Troy - simple as that.

As I said before, Trump has probably not created the company yet. He will create one based on the talents of the person he chooses.
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You guys need to realize that they're showing us the stuff that makes for good TV. Whoever the winner is doesn't matter as much as the drama aspect of the show.

Kwame could be kicking everyone's ass and we would never know. But as long as Trump gets the best man or woman for the job in his eyes, AND the show is a hit, everything is a success.
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Troy is too much of a car salesman. Using questionable tactics and downright lying to people tonight at least. That was his undoing, it didn't really have much to do with education. If I had cars or appliances to sell, Troy would be on the top of my list. To be one of the leaders of a well-respected company? No.
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Wow, 2 minutes left and they magically get a bidder.

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Old 04-01-04, 10:26 PM
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I think Trump's point is strong financial analysis skills are required for the type of all types of businesses he engages in. It's clear that Troy, in spite of being a mortgage broker, could get Trump in some serious trouble if he didn't understand complexities of some PV calculations.

Of course, considering how leveraged Trump's casinos, he may have to sharpen his "artistry" of structuring a deal. There was a report on CNBC a few days ago saying that his gambling businesses have a lot of debt and his ownership in them could be reduced to a minority interest due to a lack of cash flow.

Nick is a snake oil salesman. Did anyone see him try to rent the penthouse or sell the bottled water?

As for Kwame, he's a blank canvas. He's been flying under the radar. I haven't seen him do anything, much less anything dynamic or signicifant during his run on the show.

Bill is the most logical choice with Amy being a close second.
Old 04-01-04, 10:31 PM
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Oh man Troy bites the dust since Nick & Amy won the competition at the last minute this smells and to add insult to injury Trump tells Troy that he is not qualified to run one of his companies due to his lack of education WTF? If that is the case why didn't Trump eliminate him earlier in the competition? This sucks and do nothing Kwame is still in can someone please explain to me why "I love to play the race card" Omarosa is returning? I thought she was fired earlier I'm sure Heidi is besides herself after hearing this news since those two did not get along very well.

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Originally posted by DJ_Spyder
Oh man Troy bites the dust since Nick & Amy won the competition at the last minute this smells and to add insult to injury Trump tells Troy that he is not qualified to run one of his companies due to his lack of education WTF? If that is the case why didn't Trump eliminate him earlier in the competition? This sucks and do nothing Kwame is still in can someone please explain to me why the Queen Byatch Omarosa is returning? I thought she was fired earlier I'm sure Heidi is besides herself after hearing this news since those two did not get along very well.

Exactly my point from before. If Troy was so lacking in experience - it would have come up earlier. Obviously, Trump is trying to maximize ratings with this controversial call. I can't think for a second he will hire that do-nothing to run his company.
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It could be worse, we could have had Sam for all these weeks...
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Moose! Funny name for a dad.

I do get the feeling that Trump/Burnett were stringing along Troy for his "used car salesman smell" because he definitely made for entertaining TV with his audacity and outgoing personality (and the ability to spew BS with his Joker-like grin). In the final analysis, Troy could have won just about everything, and still have gotten the pink slip from the Donald for his lack of college degree.

Kwame doesn't have the right stuff, and neither does Nick, so that leaves Amy and Bill, and only Bill seems to actually have a larger picture perspective.
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In regards to Omarosa coming back.
Did anyone else see Leno last night with George and Caroline?
Leno asked about Omarosa and commented about how backstage she was really really nice, but on camera, she became a different person and he didn't like her.
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Originally posted by Patman
It could be worse, we could have had Sam for all these weeks...
Point well taken Psycho Sam and that evil stare of his when he got fired still gives me the chills!!
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Major Points:
Although Caroline is a hottie and I wouldn't mind her berating me intensly for about 30-45 minutes, she really is an ice queen. When she said 'Good for him for making it this far' was evil. She basically had him eliminated from day one and never took him seriously.

Troy knew he would lose against Bill and that at least he had a fighting chance against Kwame. But I really think the Trump already has him mind made up and both Troy and Kwame will be gone.

Now that Katrina is gone, Amy is really going all out with the short skirts. Not that i'm complaining.

Bill is a punk. He could have easily helped set up Amy for Nick, but instead he intentionally c blocked Nick. Business is business but there's never an excuse that type of behavior.

I can see how Moose was trying to help out his son with Amy. Basically he was trying to get the point across that Nick was a ladies man and even now he had a girl waiting for him, so Amy better make a move quick. Unfortunately, he read the situation wrong and probaly c-blocked his son even more than Bill did. Moose = worst wingman ever. And Amy's hot sister wasn't helping the situation either.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, they've obviously set it up so Nick and Amy will face each other in the finale.

Kwame's just so bland and straight. Ok, so he went to Harvard, big whoop. He just seems to be riding on the coattails of the rest of his team mates.
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Derrich - your entire post had me ROFLMAO! (BTW - what section of the beach are you at? I'm in Newport News, but hang out down there often.)

If Kwame makes it one more round I will be upset. OK, so he had a masters vs Troy's HS diploma. But after that he has nothing on the remaning contestants. I'm really leaning towards a Bill win at the end of all this.
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no doubt about the set up. my fiancee and I were so pissed when that guy came back. OMG Ponderosa is coming back. Reminds me of when the man-beast came back in Paradise Hotel.


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