Frasier, underappreciated?
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Frasier, underappreciated?
Hi -- i just realized lately how much i like this show. It seems like an interesting and clever show, yet i've never heard anyone talk about it. "Hey did you see the one where..." is never said about this show, how come? Anyone other fans of the show?
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I think it averages out in the end. It had a run of a few years where it was a great show and people wouldn't shut up about it. Then it started getting lame, and NBC wouldn't shut up about it, but people still talked about it. Then it got better, and NBC wouldn't shut up about it, but the public stopped talking about it.
I wouldn't say it's underappreciated, so much as people are just tired of it, myself included. As noted, NBC never shut up about it.
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I wouldn't say it's underappreciated, so much as people are just tired of it, myself included. As noted, NBC never shut up about it.
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Definitely not underappreciated. It hasn't been underappreciated since about two or three years ago. For years, it was always high on the Nielsen charts and winning Emmy after Emmy. For a long while, it was one of the best (and most intelligent) shows on TV. Granted, it's faultered slightly in the last few years (pretty much since NBC moved it Tuesday after Will and Grace took the 9PM Thursday slot), but picked up major momentum again this year. Frasier was appreciated for at least eight out of it's eleven year run by everyone. Plus, any show that can be on for eleven years is definitely not unappreciated.
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Yeah i meant to mention how it is appreciated at the Emmy's. I think most kids in high school don't watch the show so i don't hear anything about it... i have noticed lately how the last season with Niles and Daphney isn't nearly as good as the older ones.
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I heard Kelsey Grammer got his panties in a knot because NBC was giving "Friends" the royal send off, while not promoting the series finale of his show very heavily. I haven't watched the show in several years, and watching the Daphne + Niles melodramatic TV spots led me to believe I made the right choice.
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It's certainly run out of steam the past few seasons (especially the gawd-awful Luiz Guzman episode that was so dreadful I swore I would never watch the show again, and I didn't for nearly a year). Some improvement this year, but I've only caught a few with it going up against 24 now).
But let's not lose sight of one thing : Grammer has been playing this role every week for 20 years. Just think about that, twenty years. Wow.
I remember when he first was introduced on Cheers. He was a boring one-dimentional character; an afterthought at best. Then halfway through that third season, the gang took him on a "snipe hunt" and he began to show some intelligence and humor and I thought "Ok, I'll give this guy a chance". As I think back on it, I was in tenth grade back then. And he's been on every week; through high school, college, med school, residency, and seven years of medical practice I've been able to watch Kelsey Grammer give his best work as Fraiser. Familiarity will build comtempt and it did with this show over time, but you have to admit:
IT'S BEEN ONE HELL OF A RUN
But let's not lose sight of one thing : Grammer has been playing this role every week for 20 years. Just think about that, twenty years. Wow.
I remember when he first was introduced on Cheers. He was a boring one-dimentional character; an afterthought at best. Then halfway through that third season, the gang took him on a "snipe hunt" and he began to show some intelligence and humor and I thought "Ok, I'll give this guy a chance". As I think back on it, I was in tenth grade back then. And he's been on every week; through high school, college, med school, residency, and seven years of medical practice I've been able to watch Kelsey Grammer give his best work as Fraiser. Familiarity will build comtempt and it did with this show over time, but you have to admit:
IT'S BEEN ONE HELL OF A RUN
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Definitely not underappreciated. It hasn't been underappreciated since about two or three years ago. For years, it was always high on the Nielsen charts and winning Emmy after Emmy. For a long while, it was one of the best (and most intelligent) shows on TV. Granted, it's faultered slightly in the last few years
Definitely not underappreciated. It hasn't been underappreciated since about two or three years ago. For years, it was always high on the Nielsen charts and winning Emmy after Emmy. For a long while, it was one of the best (and most intelligent) shows on TV. Granted, it's faultered slightly in the last few years
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I quit watching this around the time of the Niles/Daphne wedding schtick - the episodes in the motor home to be exact. It just devolved into a Jack Tripper-esque one-trick pony week after week. I mean how many misunderstandings and goof-ups can one grown man find himself in the midst of?
If anything, I think its way over-appreciated....
If anything, I think its way over-appreciated....
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I'd say that the first seven seasons were excellent and well worth owning when they do come out on DVD. I'll eventually pick them all up, become there still have been some great episodes in between some of the duds. I've been taping Frasier for the last few years, since 24 and all, but I have to say that this season has been brilliant. Back to the true Frasier form that has been missing in the past few seasons. I'm looking forward to, well, taping the last six episodes of the show.
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I agree with dcprules, this season has been classic frasier at its best, all the innuendo, and misunderstood comments.
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I've started watching it again this season after stopping a few years back when it became the Niles & Daphne show, and am surprised how much I'm enjoying it. The recent one guest starring Laurie Metcalf as Nannie G was as classic as any episode's ever been. I think they're going out on a high note.
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Fraiser is still quite good, maybe it has slid a little, but overall it is much better than most out there on tv.
As for people talking about the show, last season every week there was a "Fraiser date" thread on this forum. For some reason it has not continued on with this season.
As for people talking about the show, last season every week there was a "Fraiser date" thread on this forum. For some reason it has not continued on with this season.
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</small>This is the problem I have with the show: it became too dependent on plain farce. One such episode every so often would be fine but the writers seem to have become stuck in a rut with this one.
It is now on late in the UK and I no longer make a point of taping it. And I think we may still be year behind the US screening schedule - although I think just a few months behind for Friends and Enterprise....
Originally posted by brizz
I mean how many misunderstandings and goof-ups can one grown man find himself in the midst of?
I mean how many misunderstandings and goof-ups can one grown man find himself in the midst of?
It is now on late in the UK and I no longer make a point of taping it. And I think we may still be year behind the US screening schedule - although I think just a few months behind for Friends and Enterprise....
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Originally posted by brizz
one-trick pony week after week.... I mean how many misunderstandings and goof-ups can one grown man find himself in the midst of?
one-trick pony week after week.... I mean how many misunderstandings and goof-ups can one grown man find himself in the midst of?
I tuned in for the first time in a couple of weeks since I think the RV episode mentioned above. I was amazed at how funny this show still is after all these years. I do think it is underappreciated as of late. It has just become to familiar. It is consistently funnier than most of the crap on tv.
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This season it has gone back to being one of my favorite comedies. At least this show will be going out on "top", unlike a certain other well-known, soon-to-be-ending NBC comedy.
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Like others, I stopped watching around the time of the wedding. It use to be my favorite show and really the only network show I'd try to make a point to watch. But it just got stale, the Niles/Daphne stuff lovydubby stuff just put me off. I figured they'd probably be introducing a child actor into the mix soon. Maybe I should check out this season when it reruns. I just never gave it a second chance.
My favorite episode was the one where they vacation in a cabin together and there's the sequence at night where everyone's sneaking around into each others rooms when the lights go out. The champaign popping is a classic.
My favorite episode was the one where they vacation in a cabin together and there's the sequence at night where everyone's sneaking around into each others rooms when the lights go out. The champaign popping is a classic.
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All the hoopla surrounding the final few episodes of Friends just reminds me how little respect NBC seems to have for Frasier: I haven't seen anything from NBC advertising that it's ending next month.
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All the hoopla surrounding the final few episodes of Friends just reminds me how little respect NBC seems to have for Frasier: I haven't seen anything from NBC advertising that it's ending next month.
All the hoopla surrounding the final few episodes of Friends just reminds me how little respect NBC seems to have for Frasier: I haven't seen anything from NBC advertising that it's ending next month.
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I've never seen a single Frasier commercial. And the only shows I watch are NBC thursday night, which would be the prime spot for an ad.




