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Old 03-01-04, 11:15 PM
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Enterprise - 03/03/2004

Episode #18 - "Azati Prime"

Written by: Manny Coto, Story by B & B & Coto
Directed by: Allan Kroeker (go-to director for Trek "event-episodes" of the past 7 years)

Here's some addional information about the episode:

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From TV Guide:
Archer's rash gamble to demolish the Xindi's planet-obliterating weapon imperils both his crew and the future in a pivotal episode.

Criticized for its alleged blandness, the series returned for a third season with an emphasis on action, which this tale dishes out with a shovel. As Archer readies a captured shuttle for a suicidal attack on the Xindi fleet, time-traveler Daniels (Matt Winston) warns the captain that his death will prevent the creation of the Federation. Equally profound is the effect Archer's plans have on his crew---especially T'Pol.
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In the first half of a dramatic two-parter (aren't most two-parters dramatic?), Archer (Scott Bakula) and the Enterprise crew finally make it to the Xindi super-weapon construction site. Crewman Daniels (Matt Winston) time-travels into the future and doesn't see sunshine and lollipops -- but Archer is still determined to save his beloved Earth. Leaving T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) in charge, Archer leaves on a veritable suicide mission to the Xindi bomb targeting the planet. The remaining crew tries to leave the alien territory undetected, but they're forced to face down a barrage of Xindi ships once exposed.

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a little early?
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Yeah, why not?
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It's never too early to bash Enterprise, but I'm going to wait this week since this sounds like it has a chance to be a good one.
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About time they got to the Xindi, this story is getting too old
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Originally posted by Damfino
It's never too early to bash Enterprise

...which this tale dishes out with a shovel
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Got a tournament tomorrow nite.

Poker
Enterprise
Poker
Enterprise

Hmmm. Tough choice.
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there might be some decontamination....
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Spoiler:
And for those who care for ship-damage continuity, the damage sustained in this episode and the next (since it is a 2-parter) will be dealt with and acknowledge over the next 5-6 episodes.

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Originally posted by MvRojo
Isn't that too much of a spoiler?
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Originally posted by Chew
Isn't that too much of a spoiler?
I agree.

I think somebody is trying WAY too hard to promote this thing.

I mean, there are still commercials, yes?
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Originally posted by Wizda're
I agree.

I think somebody is trying WAY too hard to promote this thing.

I mean, there are still commercials, yes?
You're right. I spoilerized it.
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Thanks Mv!
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wow, we actually saw bodies get sucked out. that's a first I think
I wanted more of the Ent-J, exterior shot would have been nice. Hopefully Daniel's intervention (purposely used this word since it is used for other important things, like when a friend is doing some harmful) will get this back onto the "birth of teh federation" storyline
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Wasn't too bad.

Was that a Promethus class ship we saw in the background during the battle?
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Originally posted by mikehunt
wow, we actually saw bodies get sucked out. that's a first I think
I wanted more of the Ent-J, exterior shot would have been nice. Hopefully Daniel's intervention (purposely used this word since it is used for other important things, like when a friend is doing some harmful) will get this back onto the "birth of teh federation" storyline
We've seen it at least twice before, but both times they were Borg. Seeing people who are on the main crew of a show sucked out was really shocking.

They probably didnt want to show too much of the Ent-J so they don't limit themselves in the future.
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Archer held prisoner again!!!!
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Originally posted by Lara Means
Archer held prisoner again!!!!
In all fairness, it's only like the 2nd or 3rd time this season, as opposed to the 10th or 11th time, which was probably how many there were last season.
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I'm not sure if I liked this because it was sorta good or because
Spoiler:
Enterprise is about to be destroyed.

Is anyone else thinking that everything is going to be corrected by a time travel stunt next week?
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Originally posted by Damfino
I'm not sure if I liked this because it was sorta good or because
Spoiler:
Enterprise is about to be destroyed.

Is anyone else thinking that everything is going to be corrected by a time travel stunt next week?
If you want to know:
Spoiler:
The damage sustained will not be erased with a reset button. Startrek.com has production reports that go 4 episodes after tonight's and the damage sustained is continued throughout.
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"Only a precise hit will set up a chain reaction. The shaft is ray-shielded, so you'll have to use proton torpedoes."

I had a serious Star Wars vibe going throughout this episode. Only, instead of the Death Star being built in orbit around Endor, it was being built beneath the waters of Naboo. Even the plan to destroy it felt like Lando piloting the Falcon.

T'Pol is now officially not a Vulcan. It's either some crippling disease, Romulan blood, or some other reason. But, it's been getting worse the longer she's in the Expanse.

This episode easily had some of the best production values in a long time. The underwater effects and attack on the Enterprise were kewl.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with a crippled ship and no easy way of repairing it.
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T'Pol is so non-vulcan it's disturbing. At first I just figured that not all Vulcans acted like Spock or Tuvock. But this girl isn't even close. She's crying, yelling, irrational, etc etc. Either the writers/directors are screwing up really badly or there's an underlying story here.

So T'Pol has a thing for Archer but she's sleeping with Trip? Not that I have a problem with it, I just wanted to make sure I'm seeing things correctly.


My guess is that the Andorians show up.
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Originally posted by Derrich
My guess is that the Andorians show up.
I'm torn on that.
On the one hand, it's a bit of a cop-out.
On the other, it means more Combs.
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T'Pol is female, what's so surprising about her behavior?

*ducks*
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Originally posted by MvRojo
If you want to know:
Spoiler:
The damage sustained will not be erased with a reset button. Startrek.com has production reports that go 4 episodes after tonight's and the damage sustained is continued throughout.
Spoiler:
The two most likely ways that Enterprise writers will resolve this would be either time travel (as in Voyager's Year of Hell) or by having Porthos (or another character) wake up from a bad dream.

That said, if some other course is taken with this story then I just might have to start taking the show seriously. One thing is certain: I will actually be looking forward to these next 4 episodes!
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Hate Cliff Hangers....

Wow, I totally expected that the damage would be undone via time travel: Daniels comes back, picks up Archer, says "See you are an *******," then starts him over again to do it correctly.

We'll see.


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