Those aren't particularly classy things to say. But, regardless, the guy was barely a blip on the show.

That's why nobody can remember that one. We all blocked it out of our minds. That was by far the worst victory (unless you're one of the people bothered by the Colby/Tina thing), and possibly the worst season.

I am thinking of a few classless things to say to you, but I won't. My point was we were already inundated with 9/11 and they went and put an NYC fireman on the show to get ratings. I thought that was a pretty low class move by CBS myself. Nothing against Ken personally, because I do remember him being a good guy. I just wanted the topic off the show. I don't need it to be that much of a reality show.

a couple weeks ago i was telling my wife they should have an all star past surviour season. now i know Tivo can read my mind.

Shii Ann? Ken?

Guess no one else from that season would accept? Oh well. 100 times better than Vecepia.

If Sandra is on the show, does that mean we can expect her to last a long time in this season?

This news best not be spoiln' the rest of this season, yo.

That wasn't Jenna. That was the red-head. Can't remember her name.

You're right, it was Shawna.

OK I don't feel quite as mad about her winning now. I can't believe I had that wrong thought in my mind for so long

No such thing as a "ratings nightmare" for Survivor.

Poor you, inundated with 9/11!! Also, he was a cop, and so now they have to disqualify any applicants that were NYC policemen? (or as you call them, firemen)... why not just eliminate every entrant from NYC?

I agree, but I think the previous winners will be targets for early departures so it shouldn't matter.

I'll be rooting for Kathy from Marquesas. She probably would have won Marquesas if her bra strap didn't slip in the last challenge.

Careful, buddy. IIRC, the guy said he was NYPD when they were all stating their professions at the start of the show, everyone in the cast gave what seemed like a spontaneous round of applause for him and then, unless I've forgotten, it was never mentioned again. It was yet another example of how Survivor is a cut above all other reality shows.

True dat. Like I said, we were rooting for Kathy. She was great.

Kathy and Xiousan should get along pretty well.

Agreed, balancer...Ken never made mention of his profession or dealing with 9/11 and if he had, so what? No one ever made an issue of it on the show.

Oh no wait, THANK GOD Greg won't be on it, if I had to watch any more of his brilliant "alphabetical voting strategy", I'd puke. Don't remember Gervase THAT well, but didn't he turn out to be a loser at the challenges?

Kim Powers? I'd love to see her on the All Star Cast. But I'm happy that Amber will be on the show

Actually, Sean the Doctor was the one with the alphabet voting strategy in the 1st season. Greg was the kooky coconut phone guy.

How could anyone forget Kathy?!

I second that. Someone call Survivor producers and tell them to put Elizabeth from S2 in the All-Star cast!

Oh please. This is exactly my point. I can barely remember the guy. I find it extremely hard to believe they put him on the show for any other reason than the fact hat he was an NYC police officer. I'm just agreeing that it was pure tokenism.

That's ridiculous. The guy had a legitimate shot like everyone else. Not every contestant can be a bartender from Kentucky. There are over 40,000 members of the NYPD (it's a larger force than the FBI) and he was just one. There have been plenty of unmemorable Survivor castmembers.

Let's just agree to disagree then, you don't need to attack me. It's not that big of a deal to me and some people are under the impression it is. It just annoyed me when he was first on the show. It turned into a non-issue because as was said, Ken didn't constantly talk about 9/11 or even just being a cop in New York, and he didn't win because everyone felt sorry for him. I don't know if he should be an All Star either, but I guess they have to pick someone from that rather dull season.

We can definitely agree that he shouldn't be an all-star. I don't know why Brian from that year wouldn't be on. He was unelievable. And insane Jan would be a fun addition as well. I hated Robb but he would be interesting. The Rob(b)s on Survivor are always the ones to watch.

It has to be taken into consideration, too, that some people were probably asked and said no and that's why some people that don't sound like All-Star material to us would be on. As for tokenism, there is always the token model-bartender, actress-model, suburban mom...so let's not put Survivor that far up on a pedestal when it comes to tokenism, they do it all the time.
Still love the show!

I'm just hoping that Jenna from last season is the first one voted off. That crazy Matt guy was incredible in the challenges, and although weird, he seemed like a decent guy. Definately more deserving than Jenna. Anybody who uses the lame excuse "(he/she) already has enough money" as the reason why they are most worthy to win doesn't deserve a cent.