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Old 10-10-03 | 12:31 PM
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Csi - 10/9/03

That was one dour ending, but I think it's important to illustrate that for some of these predators, you'd better be prepared to get them before they come and get you. And that means stepping up, and pointing out the scum in order to get them off the streets. Sarah was profoundly hurt by this turn of events.

I don't recall a "to be continued" at the end, so there's only the possibility that a future case will resolve this one, but in life, it doesn't always happen.
Old 10-10-03 | 12:48 PM
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I thought that the main plot was alright, but the subplot, with the balloon-assisted suicide was pretty lame. Unless you were trying to commit insurance fraud so that your beneficiary can get some cash, why would you make your suicide look like murder?
Old 10-10-03 | 12:55 PM
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I was surprised by the ending. I wouldn't be surprised if it's picked up again in the future, especially by Sarah.

Did they explain how Catherine figured out the bounty hunter used the baloons to float the gun away?
Old 10-10-03 | 12:57 PM
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Cat spotted the guy who sold balloons in the park, remembered the balloon ribbon fragment found, and put 2 and 2 together.
Old 10-10-03 | 01:15 PM
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I thought that the main plot was alright, but the subplot, with the balloon-assisted suicide was pretty lame. Unless you were trying to commit insurance fraud so that your beneficiary can get some cash, why would you make your suicide look like murder?
I'll bet a bounty hunter would rather be remembered for being murdered than taking the easy way out.
Old 10-10-03 | 03:04 PM
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I thought it was a pretty good ep. Sad ending, but I like it in that this CSI has much more of the human element than its Miami counterpart.
Old 10-10-03 | 03:18 PM
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I though it was a pretty good ep.
Old 10-10-03 | 03:48 PM
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So I take it the girl
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Old 10-10-03 | 04:38 PM
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Uh...no. Unless she did it with the bag of groceries that were at her feet... or did I miss something?
Old 10-10-03 | 07:13 PM
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She didn't commit suicide. The guy whom she could not point out in the lineup killed her - at least that's what we were led to believe.
Old 10-10-03 | 07:16 PM
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So I take it the girl
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commited suicide?
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The girl refused to ID the guy that raped her, so he was loose, and killed her (most likely)
Old 10-10-03 | 08:39 PM
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where were the parents in the episode it seemed like they were allways home. The girl was with the dad when she tried to ID the guy wouldnt he have been there also?
I did not understand the ending.
Was the ending like a few days later after they tried to ID the guy? Because if it was immediately after (again) the dad should have been there.
Old 10-10-03 | 08:50 PM
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where were the parents in the episode it seemed like they were allways home. The girl was with the dad when she tried to ID the guy wouldnt he have been there also?
I did not understand the ending.
Was the ending like a few days later after they tried to ID the guy? Because if it was immediately after (again) the dad should have been there.
The parents were always home because they had just had their home invaded and their daughter was raped. The father was there when she was ID'ing the guy, he was having a conversation with Grissom in the hallway.

The ending was probably that night or maybe a few days later after the ID. The parents, IMHO, were inside waiting for their daughter to come home with their takeout or whatever it was she had in the bag.
Old 10-10-03 | 10:01 PM
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Is everyone sure
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Sure it does, with no "eyewitness" the creep can't be prosecuted for the rape. The girl was murdered.
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Is everyone sure
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Absolutely, positively sure. The spilled bag of groceries is a dead giveaway. And she said during the lineup that he knew she was behind the glass.
Old 10-11-03 | 12:42 AM
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To me their was no doubt it was definently a murder. The bag of groceries, the look on the parents face, and who kills themselves in the middle of the street.

If it was a definite suicide would CSI even get called?
Old 10-11-03 | 11:01 AM
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Sure it does, with no "eyewitness" the creep can't be prosecuted for the rape. The girl was murdered.
No it doesn't...if you just got off scott free from a crime, why would you want to tempt fate and commit another crime?

CSI has investigated a number of cases that turned out to be
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. I think they were called in because of their closeness to the case. I don't doubt that both scenerios are possible, but I don't think it's clear-cut either way...maybe we'll find out in a future episode.
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There is no way that it was a suicide. She was gunned down coming home from the grocery store by the guy that she wouldn't ID (or couldn't ID). It seemed to me that she knew who the guy was, but she wouldn't ID him.

Didn't really like the bounty hunter plot, and the other murder was kinda left hanging...
Old 10-12-03 | 02:26 PM
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My gripe with this episode.

A gun is found in a house and the CSI is called. No crime scene there.

The old lady in the closet, surely the police would have opened that door in case someone was behind it. Also clearing the scene is normally done by looking in behind every door.

The 'burglary call' again CSI's go with the LVPD..

I though the PD go investigate and then bring in the CSI.
Old 10-12-03 | 11:12 PM
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balloon suicide?

They are getting a little too out there from what made this a popular show. Simple, everyday crimes solved by clues. Not outrageously brilliant masterminds that plan the perfect crime. I guess they feel the simple stuff won't cut it anymore now that they are ratings giants.
Old 10-13-03 | 02:17 PM
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I think what CSI really needs is another criminal mastermind like the serial killer from the pilot show. That storyline was wrapped up a little too quickly in season two. Grissom needs someone that is really going to challenge him. (He also needs to get some of that dye out of his hair and shave...but I'm nitpicking!)
Old 10-14-03 | 08:02 AM
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And she said during the lineup that he knew she was behind the glass.
Of course he knew- didn't we see a scene where the two of them saw each other in the PD hallway? Of course, that seems to be a common occurence on the show, to have victims and criminals in the same place. I can't imagine any reputable Police Department would let their lineup within clear view of the victim, especially a rape victim...

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Old 10-14-03 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by fuzzbox
Of course he knew- didn't we see a scene where the two of them saw each other in the PD hallway? Of course, that seems to be a common occurence on the show, to have victims and criminals in the same place. I can't imagine any reputable Police Department would let their lineup within clear view of the victim, especially a rape victim...

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It wasn't the same guy in the hallway. It was just some other people in the police department.

Also. Another vote for the girl was murdered. It never even crossed my mind that it was a suicide. He killed her cause she could identify him any time in the future, so by doing this he gets rid of all witnesses.

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