Wasn't too wild about this ep. The comings-and-goings over at the CIA are getting beyond ridiculous. I guess you can misuse intel, get put in prison, quit, etc. and still be welcomed back with open arms.

Syd's "Hi" line at the end was straight out of a Buffy episode.

I had no idea Mrs. Vaughn was the prostitue from Dark City. I'll have to giver her a closer look next week.

As for Vaughn, I don't think anyone would say he shouldn't have "moved on". But married within 2 years? Most people spend at least two years dating or engaged, and he mourned, met a new girl, proposed, and got married in 24 months. Then he tells Syd he's glad he did it.

"Remember that security system in Nepal?" Give me a break, what a jerk.

Oh yeah, and was the Actor who played Will in the credits? I don't remember.

Maybe it's just expectations, but I liked this episode much better than the first. The fortune cookie comment was key-- it showed that the writers know "Peace" is a bit of a letdown, too. I like Dixon as the director. I liked Vaughn's spiel. I liked Sark's all-too-brief return. Even the cliche night club scenes were interesting.

I do wish we saw more of Will. And while I'm glad Lindsey is gone, the 'instant love triangle' is a bit strained.

It looked like Soderbergh directed the Mexican hostage-tradeoff-- very Traffic-like.

The more I think about it, the time lapse was done for 2 reasons only:
1) To put more mystery around Sloane
2) Even more importantly, to break up Sydney and Vaughn. Maybe JJ knew that he had to pair them up in season 2 (couldn't tease forever), but maybe he also knew that once the tease has ended, shows tend to lose a lot of steam. So, instant time lapse coma, Vaughn moves on, and voila!

I predict Sydney gets involved with the guy in the therapy group who played Mikey in Season 1 of the Sopranos.

We still don't know the full story there. It's possible that the two of them had a history before Vaughn met Syd, and then reconnected after her "death".

I liked it. My favorite part was the Jack-Sloane dialogue. They're both so smug aren't they? Sark's return was also welcome although I'm really missing Lena Olin's presence. She was such a great character. This mystery surrounding the covenant is appealing to me. I knew right away the blondie was Vaughn's wifey. Hehe. Way to spill your guts there Syd. I'm kinda torn between the two actually.

I liked this ep. quite a bit more than last week's.
Syd telling off Lindsay/Lindsey really made me a fan of her character; I was not digging the pouty faced "I-lost-everything-in-two-years-poor-pitiful-me" Syd at all.

My guess for this season is that we will either get some darn good stories or they will try something incredibly dumb and gimmicky like reveal that the Syd we have been watching all season long is actually a clone and the real Syd is travelling the world dressed in black leather under the impression that she is an assassin named Elektra Natchios.

Well...maybe not all, but you know what I mean.

Over on the E site one of the reporters over their said it's because

I don't get it. The Rambaldi storyline can't simply be over. What happened to that weapon that incinerated everyone in that church to a fine black dust?? I thought that was part of the Rambaldi device?

I don't think Rambaldi is over yet. Between Jacks message of "These things are rarely over" and the Rambaldi logo still in the opening credits, I suspect we will come back to it. I did have to agree with Jack's statement about the message the device put out being a HUGE let-down. I'm glad that the show addressed the fact that it was a let-down, as it gives me hope that they will do more with it.

I'm with you. I mean, that was a pretty good preliminary weapon, if in fact that was only part of the final puzzle. And it makes it difficult to believe the final message was "Peace". It's very strange that the incinerating weapon has basically never been brought up since the episode.

HELP!

My tape ran out before the episode was over. Can anyone fill me in on what happened from where Syd goes to the group meeting.
Thanks!

MY guess for what might happen in terms of the introduction of Melissa George

My friend and I discussed this and we found a study that put 40% of people get married 1-2 years after meeting someone. About 30% spent less than a year and 30% more than two years. Now it's just one study, but it's really not that far-fetched. Mourn for 6 months, meet someone new and get married in 18 months? Possible.

Not to mention Vaughn and Syd only dated (for I don't know how long), it's not like they were engaged or married.

Kurt Fuller is good at playing hated characters. In Wayne's World, Alias, and...yeah.

Anger Management and my personal favorite...No Holds Barred with Hulk Hogan!!!

Well, um, he did find out about SD-6, learned about Jack and Sydney's identity as a double agent for the CIA, and then was introduced to the CIA, learning cofidential and secret information.

Perhaps in two year's time, his life might have been in danger.

I don't believe for a second that the device plot line is over. And poor Jack, still wrapped up in The Mom. That ain't going to end happy...

Yeh, I thought SpyDaddy (love that nickname ) coming back was OK, but already leading mission briefings? A bit quick... but not surprising...

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Syd's "Hi" line at the end was straight out of a Buffy episode.

OHHHHH, now THAT'S why that seemed familiar!! You're spot on on that one!

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I had no idea Mrs. Vaughn was the prostitue from Dark City. I'll have to giver her a closer look next week.

Count me who also thought she looked WAYY plain in this ep! I don't recall her from any other show/movie, but I was like, All this fuss for THAT??

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As for Vaughn, I don't think anyone would say he shouldn't have "moved on". But married within 2 years? Most people spend at least two years dating or engaged, and he mourned, met a new girl, proposed, and got married in 24 months. Then he tells Syd he's glad he did it.
"Remember that security system in Nepal?" Give me a break, what a jerk.

OK I'm kind of torn on the Vaughn thing. On the one hand, I TOTALLY agree with what's written above, it really plays like a rebound romance the way they've shown it so far... last week I was pretty anti-Vaughn, because I agreed with what Sydney said, if her father didn't give up, Vaughn should've had faith, etc.

BUT, all that being said, I kind of felt for Vaughn after his speech yesterday, made him more sympathetic. I can see how he was looking for someone else so soon... although again, that makes it look even MORE llike a rebound romance...

Anyone else miss Marshall's gadgets and his demos?

I am sure that they will be back sooner or later. And now he is going to be a father!

His speech last night actually made me like him less. If they had made it clear that he hadn't loved her in the Love of His Life way, two years wouldn't have been as out there. But they played it as Vaughn having his heart ripped out, life destroyed, nearly self-destructing, but now he's totally over it, comfortably settled into married life. He's so over it, that he and his wife are apparently both okay with him going back to work with the former Love of His Life.

Kind of makes me think Vaughn's the kind of guy who always has to have One True Love in his life. He was with Alice, and then he was with Sydney, and now he's with Melissa George.

I'm still waiting for the scene where it's explicitly stated that Vaughn and Jack butted heads over the possibility of Syd being alive. I think it had to have happened, and it seems like they're setting up the possibility in the story (Vaughn being the one who handled the scattering of the ashes, instead of Jack, the ongoing Vaugh/Jack tension.)

On a shallower note, I really like Sydney's new place. It's a nice, airy set. I hope we get to see more of it.

I thought it was funny that the CIA meeting was pretty much all made up of ex-SD6 people: Dixon, Marsall, Sydney, and Syd's dad. They really assimilated that group pretty well.


Sark has always given me the hot and I just looked up the actor on IMDB and discovered he was born in 1981 (ten years after me). Whoa! I feel like a dirty old woman now.

I sympathize on the Sark issue (and I've only got six years on him! I just hope that since he's out of jail now that he'll grow his hair back (the crew cut thing wasn't working for him).

I agree with Jlbkwrm on the Vaughn issue. I was ready to sympathize with him until that speech. Granted, I'd be willing to bet money that the marriage is over by the end of the season but that's a different matter. You know Jack talked to Vaughn about Syd being alive - the comments SpyDaddy made about Vaughn in the premiere seem out of place otherwise.

Me wonder what SpyMommy and SpyDaddy had going on during those two years. From the IM conversation I think it was more than just looking for Syd.