Speed Racer invented "bullet time"
08-24-03 | 12:53 AM
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I don't have the SFX background to back this up or anything, but for the moving shots in the matrix, couldn't they have just speed up the film in the camera and dollied around them in an arc while they performed the action quickly? Did they really need the 100's of cameras taking pictures one after another, or is there some other element that I'm missing?
Obviously they would have to add the air ripples and such later, but they had to do that with the other method as well. Is that what they're refering to when they take about bullettime, not the motion itself?
Obviously they would have to add the air ripples and such later, but they had to do that with the other method as well. Is that what they're refering to when they take about bullettime, not the motion itself?
08-24-03 | 03:35 AM
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You still have the issue of getting the camera on the dolly around them not to mention the equipment. the bullet time effects were done with a lot of cameras and a lot of green paint 
there would be no way to get the type of shot by simply slowling down the actors or the actions and moving a single camera around them.
there would be no way to get the type of shot by simply slowling down the actors or the actions and moving a single camera around them.
08-24-03 | 12:53 PM
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Hey, remember when the NFL tried using bullet time on the instant replays? It looked like crap! Really, trying to cash in on the popularity of the Matrix at the time! 
08-24-03 | 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
there would be no way to get the type of shot by simply slowling down the actors or the actions and moving a single camera around them.
there would be no way to get the type of shot by simply slowling down the actors or the actions and moving a single camera around them.
08-25-03 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by BabiG
I don't have the SFX background to back this up or anything, but for the moving shots in the matrix, couldn't they have just speed up the film in the camera and dollied around them in an arc while they performed the action quickly? Did they really need the 100's of cameras taking pictures one after another, or is there some other element that I'm missing?
I don't have the SFX background to back this up or anything, but for the moving shots in the matrix, couldn't they have just speed up the film in the camera and dollied around them in an arc while they performed the action quickly? Did they really need the 100's of cameras taking pictures one after another, or is there some other element that I'm missing?
How do you expect they are going to slow her down so that they can move the camera that quickly?
Bullet-time allows the camera's POV to move three-dimensionally around an object frozen in time. Attempting to do this with a single camera would violate several rules of physics.
08-25-03 | 11:34 AM
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IIRC Shaolin Soccer used a single camera to do a bullet time shot in one scene. I was watching the special features and I couldn't believe they were doing that scene with just one camera. Must be the cheap HK way to do bullet time.
08-25-03 | 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Josh Z
Take, for example, the first example of bullet-time in The Matrix, Trinity's famous jump-kick. She jumps into the air, freezes, and the camera moves around her in a 180-degree arc.
Take, for example, the first example of bullet-time in The Matrix, Trinity's famous jump-kick. She jumps into the air, freezes, and the camera moves around her in a 180-degree arc.
I know I keep harping on this, but that's the biggest difference between The Matrix and something like the Gap ad.
08-25-03 | 01:19 PM
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If the person moves or not depends on how the cameras are set. If there is a micro second delay between pictures, she'll move. If they all go off together, the will be 100% still.
08-25-03 | 01:22 PM
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Well, I don't think the difference between having the cameras take the picture all at exactly the same time (to create a freeze) or having them go off in order a few split seconds apart (in order to create some small movement) is that big a deal. Neat trick anyways.
08-26-03 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by resinrats
If the person moves or not depends on how the cameras are set. If there is a micro second delay between pictures, she'll move. If they all go off together, the will be 100% still.
If the person moves or not depends on how the cameras are set. If there is a micro second delay between pictures, she'll move. If they all go off together, the will be 100% still.
To have the same number of video/film cameras and to be able to pan around the shot at your lesuire makes for a very different "look."
