can't you just turn off the tv if you don't like the current Trek?

Well, I stopped watching with voyager because *to me* it sucked the big one. I tried Enterprise, again, felt it wasn't doing it for me and stopped watching. I've read the proposed changes and they sound stupid and superficial, so I won't bother going back. Thank goodness B5, Buffy, TNG, DS9, The X-Files, Angel and Dark Angel are out on DVD. Unless something really exciting comes along, there won't be much in the way of Sci-Fi on TV. Fortunately we still have some decent genre and fantasy with The Dead Zone, Jeremiah and Angel. We can always hope something good will come along this season.

Some of the Enterprise episodes based on the Temperal Cold War were pretty good, they need to stick with the time travel concepts and give us better glimpses of the future Trek timeline.

The answer is: YES!

Shatner can do anything.

• Quoth theedge •<HR SIZE=1>Some of the Enterprise episodes based on the Temperal Cold War were pretty good, they need to stick with the time travel concepts and give us better glimpses of the future Trek timeline. <HR SIZE=1>

Exactly! Stick to time travel, since they handle it so brilliantly, and bring back the Borg ... and Q!!!

das

Here’s an idea: have Archer, and Trip (but not Malcolm) go forward in time and be on, say, Deep Space Station K7, and they could be at the bar having a drink with Cyrano Jones, and…

…naw. That’s a stoopid idea.

I think you're on to something. The key to saving the Universe from the Temporal Cold War is ... Quadrotriticale!!!

das

The what? The what?

Quadrotritacaalie is a high-yield grain. Four-lobed hybrid of wheat and rye. A perennial also, if I'm not mistaken. The root grain, tritacale, can trace it's ancestry all the way back to 20th century Canada.........

[Wizdar reaches for his DVD, gets a stern look from Static, and decides against it.]

• Quoth Wizdar •<HR SIZE=1>The what? The what? <HR SIZE=1>

das

It was a Russian inwention.

Yes, but the poster said there was NO criteria...I gave him one.

Venusian. It's how I feel. I think the early seasons focused on the crew, tried to keep continuity, didn't try so many ratings sunts.

The later ones? Voyager was an unstoppable machine, the Borg became an average race with mucked up continity. Every episode was about Seven... many crew members were totally ignored.

I can't explain why, but when I watch the first three seasons, I feel like I'm watching Star Trek... a watered down Star Trek with a lot of things I don't like, but it's still Star Trek. When I watch Seasons 4 and onward? I'm watching Xena in space or something...

I liked 7 and found many of the other regulars annoying so maybe thats why i prefer the 2nd half. But I think Voyager came a lot closer to the TNG version of Star Trek (where there are episodes that stand alone and deal with issues like when Data was trying to save those robots he believed were alive) than DS9 did. In the end DS9 was one story with almost every episode involved in it....and Kira bugged me to no end.

Personally, I think the series have progressively been getting worse for the most part. The original and TNG were the best, DS9 was okay, Voyager was horrible and Enterprise is horrible, although perhaps a little more entertaining (thanks to Scott Bakula) than Voyager.

I think Star Trek in general has taken a dive because fans haven't been given the opportunity to "miss it". I mean, when was the last time a new Star Trek show or movie wasn't in production?

Plus, 20 years ago, sci-fi on TV was a rare thing...now we're flooded with sci-fi, and many of those programs are much, much better than Enterprise.

See I liked when DS9 told a story. A lot of the standalone episodes were okay, but they wrapped it up so neatly and then there is no lasting change or effect on the characters. Which is unrealistic.

So you wanted more of the same? I'd rather not have episodes that were just a combination of TNG episodes, done with less care, by clones of TNG characters done by worse actors.

I'd prefer similar quality episodes taking place in a different setting with different characters....or just give me TNG again and I'll be happy

Does everyone know about this wheat but me?

What ever happened to all the talk about a new series starring Jonathan Frakes as the captain of the USS Titan? I'm guessing that idea went south after Nemesis' box office failure, but it's still a pretty good idea...

Then why did you like Voyager??

Exactly! You've hit the nail on the head. That's where J. Michael Stryzynski succeeded and Berman/Braga failed. The overall story in DS9 was great, but the characters (with the exception of were pretty much the same at the end as they were when the show started.

Which is why overall B5, IMO, is a better show. The characters have a lot more depth consistently throughout the show, rather than on occassion for a single episode. Same with Buffy, Jeremiah, and I could go on.

Get this, I know Ron Moore. He wanted to do an arc for an entire season of DS9 dealing with the Dominion, with other stories in there too. The Network told him no because they didn't want something episodic for their secondary market. They would be able to do "Picard week" or "Worf Week" in the reruns. How bloody lame is that? Becuase they don't know how to really market a show, we get screwed. Thanks Paramounts suit zombies.

Also, so many Trek characters had so much more potential that never came to fruition becasue of poor development?