could someone post the supporting nods? I could look elsewhere but I don't feel like it.

The Emmys really need to shake it up. I get sick and tired of seeing the same thing every year. Other than the HBO shows I hardly watch anything else nominated. But I have watched atleast some episodes of those shows and have to say that I have seen better. (That 70s show is easily funnier than any of the comedy nominees)

Here's the supporting actor nods:

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series

Everybody Loves Raymond - Peter Boyle as Frank Barone
Everybody Loves Raymond - Brad Garrett as Robert Barone
Frasier - John Mahoney as Martin Crane
Frasier - David Hyde Pierce as Niles Crane
Malcolm In The Middle - Bryan Cranston as Hal
Will & Grace - Sean Hayes as Jack


Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series

Alias - Victor Garber as Agent Jack Bristow
The Sopranos - Michael Imperioli as Christopher Moltisanti
The Sopranos - Joe Pantoliano as Ralph Cifaretto
The West Wing - Bradley Whitford as Josh Lyman
The West Wing - John Spencer as Leo McGarry


Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series

Curb Your Enthusiasm - Cheryl Hines as Cheryl David
Everybody Loves Raymond - Doris Roberts as Marie Barone
Sex And The City - Cynthia Nixon as Miranda Hobbes
Sex And The City - Kim Cattrall as Samantha Jones
Will & Grace - Megan Mullally as Karen


Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series

Alias - Lena Olin as Irina Derevko/Laura Bristow
Judging Amy - Tyne Daly as Maxine Gray
Six Feet Under - Lauren Ambrose as Claire Fisher
Six Feet Under - Rachel Griffiths as Brenda Chenowith
The West Wing - Stockard Channing as Abigail Bartlet

SUPPORTING NOMS:

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series
Everybody Loves Raymond • Peter Boyle as Frank Barone
Everybody Loves Raymond • Brad Garrett as Robert Barone
Frasier • John Mahoney as Martin Crane
Frasier • David Hyde Pierce as Niles Crane
Malcolm In The Middle • Bryan Cranston as Hal
Will & Grace • Sean Hayes as Jack

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series
Alias • Victor Garber as Agent Jack Bristow
The Sopranos • Michael Imperioli as Christopher Moltisanti
The Sopranos • Joe Pantoliano as Ralph Cifaretto
The West Wing • Bradley Whitford as Josh Lyman
The West Wing • John Spencer as Leo McGarry

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie
Hitler: The Rise Of Evil • Peter O’Toole as Hindenburgh
Hysterical Blindness • Ben Gazzara as Nick
My House In Umbria • Chris Cooper as Thomas Riversmith
Napoleon • John Malkovich as Talleyrand
The Pentagon Papers • Alan Arkin as Harry Rowen

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series
Curb Your Enthusiasm • Cheryl Hines as Cheryl David
Everybody Loves Raymond • Doris Roberts as Marie Barone
Sex And The City • Cynthia Nixon as Miranda Hobbes
Sex And The City • Kim Cattrall as Samantha Jones
Will & Grace • Megan Mullally as Karen

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series
Alias • Lena Olin as Irina Derevko/Laura Bristow
Judging Amy • Tyne Daly as Maxine Gray
Six Feet Under • Lauren Ambrose as Claire Fisher
Six Feet Under • Rachel Griffiths as Brenda Chenowith
The West Wing • Stockard Channing as Abigail Bartlet

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Miniseries Or A Movie
Door To Door • Kathy Baker as Gladys
Door To Door • Helen Mirren as Irene Porter
Hysterical Blindness • Gena Rowlands as Virginia
Hysterical Blindness • Juliette Lewis as Beth
Tennessee Williams’ The Roman Spring Of Mrs. Stone • Anne Bancroft as Contessa

Patman beat me to it.... mine's prettier!

i read that many thought lady mcpalmer was a sure nom for supporting actress. but i guess everyone has their list of sure noms and sure wins

I think that Six Feet Under is over-rated as well. I do watch it, but I don't see why it is so critically acclaimed. I would prefer Krause back on Sports Night.

Shows that should have been nominated in my opinion:

Scrubs
King of Queens
Monk
The Shield
Law & Order

Thumbs up for nominations for:

Bryan Cranston
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Tony Shaloub
Amazing Race
Michael Chiklis
Alias people

Thumbs up for not nominating:

ER

I am sure that there are many that I am forgetting in those categories...

It does seem like the Emmys nominate the exact same shows every year. At least they gave some love to Curb Your Enthusiasm and Alias. Frankly, I would've preferred seeing Alias get nominated for Best Drama Series over 24. The former had a much better 2nd season IMO.

I'd normally be pissed about Buffy getting only one nod(and in the FX category at that), but honestly, its final year was also its worst ever. Now Angel on the other hand got royally screwed. Ok, I know it's a pipe dream to ever think that the Emmy voters would nominate it in the major categories, even though it deserved it. But hell, you'd think it would've gotten something! How about the brilliant fight scene choreography in nearly every episode(Gunn vs. the bodyguards in "Players" being the standout)? What about Best Makeup for the Beast? Best FX?

Then again, I'm starting to wonder if it's not really the Emmys at fault but rather the WB. Not only did Angel get the shaft, but so did Gilmore Girls and Smallville. Does that network do anything to promote their shows?

to Lena Olin and Victor Garber for getting nominated in the best supporting actor/actress in a drama categories.

some who were snubbed, imo:

Zach Braff (Scrubs) - best actor in a comedy
John C. McGinley (Scrubs) - best supporting actor in a comedy
Wilmer Valderrama (That 70s Show) - best supporting...
Kurtwood Smith (That 70s Show) - best supporting...
Debra Jo Rupp (That 70s Show) - best supporting actress in a comedy
Neal McDonough (Boomtown) - best supporting actor in a drama
Dennis Franz (NYPD Blue) - best actor in a drama
Anthony LaPaglia (W/out a Trace) - best actor in a drama

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think it's ridiculous that more than one actor from the same show can be nominated in the same category.

Choices are difficult to make, but they should just pick ONE actor from one show per category. No more nominating three people from the West Wing or two people from the Sopranos for, say, supporting actor. That's an insult to other programs and actors in saying that no one else is as good or did as well of a job this past TV season, when that's just not the case at all.

No love for The Wire which is disappointing. Hopefully next year it will get the recognition it deserves. The second season has been at least as good as the first so far.

Well, the Emmy's continue to be a total joke to me if for no other reason than their lack of nominees from the WB. I love SFU and I love CYE, but the 2 best shows on TV are Angel and Gilmore Girls.

Also, only 1 nom for The Shield, Scrubs, and Buffy is ridiculous. Buffy didn't have a good year, but there are definitely some categories it should be nominated in. And The Shield and Scrubs are probably the 5th and 6th best shows on TV after Angel, Gilmore, SFU, and CYE.

Of course the best animated shows on TV, South Park and Adult Swim, were shut-out too.

did i miss the list of animated shows?

if there are more than one good person in a show they should get recognized. two people on one show might be better than people on any other show. the critic i saw on cnn said the same thing about WB. they said critics say gilmore girls is the best show on tv yet it gets no noms

I like CSI, but its nomination for best drama series is a joke.

Wow, "Law & Order" didn't get a nom. That breaks its streak after being nominated for 11 years in a row. (12 years would have been a record. )

(I personally prefer "L&O: SVU" right now, though. )

L&O is my favorite show of all time, but it has seriously slipped. It really did not deserve a nom last year. This year, it was slightly better but the Academy definitely made the right call to leave it off.

I prefer SVU now as well.

1) Animated Program (Less Than One Hour): As Told by Ginger, Nickelodeon; Futurama, Fox; The Simpsons, Fox; SpongeBob SquarePants, Nickelodeon

(Go Futurama!)

2) Shows on the WB tend to get snubbed *cough*BuffytheVampireSlayer*cough* by those old fogies. It would be refreshing if shows like Gilmore Girls and Everwood were recognized, but sadly, Emmy voters think that being on the Frog means that only teens watch it, and thus it's crap.

Who the hell thinks "Everybody Loves Raymond" is funnier than "Scrubs"? Please! And Will and Grace gets worse every year, and lame celebrity cameos shouldn't equate a nomination.

Ah well. Same old, same old. No huge surprises...

That might be a good reason why it's been snubbed: Buffy was on UPN for the last few years.

The Wire will always be passed over because it actually requires a brain to follow the story. I watch each episode 2 or 3 times in order to pick up the nuance and detail. I would categorize The Wire as more closely akin to a well written book than a TV show. Each episode is a chapter that builds on the previous and toward the next.

I really love that HBO is handing the networks their collective heads on a platter. If you adjust the ratings for relative availability and coverage, HBO blows the networks away. Thank god for a channel that doesn't insult its audience.

Woohoo, finally a Senior Member

I know, I know. I'm just lazy. I could have said "all shows on UPN and the WB are ignored by Emmy voters".

Then again....what else is on UPN? (Other than wrestling) Do they air "Moesha" anymore? :P

Besides, some of the quality episodes of "Buffy" aired on the WB...like "Hush", and "The Gift". Those, among others, should have gotten some of the actors a nomination or two.

OK, as much as I love the show, is it really fair that "Sex and the City" got nominated when it was only on for a mere 8 episodes!? Also, "Friends"??? This was the absolute worst season ever. And quite possibly the worst sitcom all year. Embarrassingly bad. "Will & Grace" was also pretty terrible 3/4 of the time. I was curious if (the incredible) Rachel Griffiths would get a leading or supporting nomination given she was only on for about 20 minutes the entire season. I think Peter Kraus should win best actor. Agree with the person who asked if anyone thought "Raymond" was better than "Scrubs". It's not. I don't know why I'll even watch this year. You just know "The West Wing" is going to win again. Yawn.

Anybody got a list of the shows that were up for writing and directing emmy's?

Full List of Nominations

After the actor/actress stuff, everything else is alphabetical by catergory.

And the worst thing is that they didn't even put the best supporting player on The West Wing in the nominations. And I ain't talkin' about Mary Louise Parker or whatever her name is or Dule Hill.

And most of all what I don't get is how Allison Janney was bumped to Best Actress in Drama (as last year.) The four supporting actors get as much screen time as she does. And to think. She beat out both contenders from Six Feet Under last year.

Hey now! Given my sig, you should know better than that

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Originally posted by Deftones
why is it that Jane Kaczmarek gets all the props for Malcom in the Middle when Brian Cranston is infinately better as Malcom's dad.

Agreed 110% Brian kicks much ass.

Was Ed nominated for anything last year..?

Wellz... I'm pulling for Curb winning everything it's nominated for (it's so far and away the funniest show on TV that this SHOULD be a given), and also for Krause, either Ambrose or Griffiths (preferably Ambrose, but it doesn't make much difference to me), and writing/directing/drama of Six Feet Under. I'm still not blown away by Ruth (can never remember her real name), so Edie Falco would have to be my choice there.

Other than that - all I really care about is that Letterman/The Late Show wins everything he was nominated for and Robin Williams' tired act gets shut out, and that preachy *****, The West Wing goes home Emmy... uh, -less. Other than that, I don't care

Oh yeah - Question for the experts! Why wasn't CYE nominated in the writing category?!? Is it perhaps b/c show much of the show is improvised (according to interviews I've seen, all of it is) that they don't nominate any "writers?"