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Old 03-25-03, 05:37 AM
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24 3/25/03 11pm-12am

Alright episode.
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They actually mention Iran as one of the 3 countries. Ali denies the conversation with the foreign leaders to the lady that works at CTU, even though everyone says the tape is 100% authentic. Ali is being transported from CTU when Jack comes out to try and get him to confirm or deny the tape. Ali still denies it, but right after a sniper shoots him and kills him. The sniper turns out to be the 7th snake. He calls Jack and says that he had to kill Ali to get to him. He wants Jack to bring Kate to an alley in 30 minutes to find out more info. Kim walks up to a beer store that is closed, but a guy comes out and lets her in. While inside a guy comes to the store and wants inside to buy food for his pregnant wife. The store worker doesn't believe him and thinks he is going to rob them so he calls 911. The guy busts in through the windowand starts fighting with the worker when Kim pulls out her gun and aims it at the guy who broke in. He walks right up to her and takes the gun and then goes about his shopping. He pulls up his cart to the cashier and wants to pay for his stuff. Right around this time the cops pull up and the store clerk tries to steal the gun away from the guy who broke in. The store worker ends up acidentally getting shot, so then the guy who broke in holds Kim hostage. The show ends with Jack trying to leave CTU with Kate when Tony tries to stop them(he has been treating Jack like crap this episode and seems like the power went to his head). Tony pulls a gun on them, but Jack knocks him out as the show ends.
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Just to add a few things to the summary above:
Spoiler:

The president is decided to start the war against the three countries
which will trigger an estimated 10-30,000 us soldiers casualties.
Bauer warns the president of his suspicions that Ali might have told
the truth and that the tape is a setup but the president says he cannot
delay the attack order for more than a few hours given the lack of evidence.
Otherwise... finally the last cobra shows up. Bauer knocks Almeda out as he tries to stop him take Kate out of ctu (btw - who thinks Kate and Jack will end up together? :-) ); the arab dude in ctu will probably turn out to be ok.

The main question would be why did the cobra guy specifically want Kate Warner...
Old 03-25-03, 03:24 PM
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I really have no idea how people see the show before it's on but I just want to feel important and act like I know something about this episode too.

Go Terps!
Old 03-25-03, 03:34 PM
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OK, This is how I understand how people view shows before the air date.

They are watching the 'Wild Feeds' on the Big Satellite Dish. All the Networks air the shows in advance to the Networks around the country so they have anough time to insert the regional Commercials.

Orbit Magazine (Not sure if they still due) Has a list of all the dates and times the Networks show the shows in advance.
Old 03-25-03, 03:56 PM
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I remember that this is how people used to get the early Survivor results when it first aired as well. Also, you have to consider that people can often download episodes before they air as well.

As far as I know, being in Newfoundland which is the earliest prime time in North America, we often get the shows a few hours before most of the other NA markets. People that see it before it airs here either get the wildfeeds or download it...
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This was downloaded CaptStormy, the show just ended here and this is a legit satellite showing which (except Newfoundland) I think is the first to show (Global Tv, they show 2 hours in advance to Fox and another network 2 hours in advance to ABC).

Anyways, It was a good episode, I won't put a spoiler since some are there and I'm sure people read them. All in all though, I'm finding that they cram way too much in a day at this point, but good nonetheless compared to watching reality which is about as interesting as having the runs.
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I was a bit letdown in the show, although there was a holy sh*t moment for me (when you see it you will probably know what I am talking about).

I am confused about Tony's actions at the end though.
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Originally posted by movieking
I am confused about Tony's actions at the end though.
Same here as well as that other chick (her name escapes me).
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Kim hostage/captive/arrest situations in the 2 seasons:

Season 1
1) Two stoner guys
2) Guy running the assassignation at the camp
3) Friend of nicer of the two stoner guys that wouldn't let her leave the house before the drug deal
4) Arrested by undercover cops
5) Dresdens hit the cops and take her on her way back to CTU

Season 2
6) Bad daddy
7) Arrested again, this time for murder/kidnapping
8) Trapped in cougar trap (not sure this really applies, but it is close)
9) Locked in by loner nutcase guy
10) Taken hostage by guy going nuts in a robbery that isn't a robbery

(Between 9 & 10, they gave us a feint, but she got away from rapist guy with the car)

Does this not seem it would give any normal person a complex if it took place in less than 48 hours of real time? Apparently, when she has a bad hair day, she REALLY has a bad hair day.

I really love this show, but I can't stop feeling like the writers think we are idiots to keep trying to use Kim like this as a plot device.

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Why in the world won't the writers just let Kim die! Another perfectly good opportunity wasted to get her off the show. Okay episode. I'm guessing the show is gearing up for its second wind. As for Tony's motivation at the end
Spoiler:
He had every right to pull the gun on Jack: he's trying to take off with a material witness without any explination before they've had a chance to see if she knows anything. We're talking about the woman who's sister was in league with terrorists. I for one can't wait to hear what the cobra guy wants with her
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i was thinking "why is palmer going to talk to the nation at 5am?" even if he was waiting til the east coast morning news shows, wouldn't he want the entire country up and awake?
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I missed the first 20 min but I thought it was good.

Looks like Kim's good decision making phase is over.

I liked the phone conversation on btwn Palmer and the deputy PM. Haysbert is great.
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Originally posted by Colonel Mustard
Kim hostage/captive/arrest situations in the 2 seasons:

Season 1
1) Two stoner guys
2) Guy running the assassignation at the camp
3) Friend of nicer of the two stoner guys that wouldn't let her leave the house before the drug deal
4) Arrested by undercover cops
5) Dresdens hit the cops and take her on her way back to CTU

Season 2
6) Bad daddy
7) Arrested again, this time for murder/kidnapping
8) Trapped in cougar trap (not sure this really applies, but it is close)
9) Locked in by loner nutcase guy
10) Taken hostage by guy going nuts in a robbery that isn't a robbery

(Between 9 & 10, they gave us a feint, but she got away from rapist guy with the car)

Does this not seem it would give any normal person a complex if it took place in less than 48 hours of real time? Apparently, when she has a bad hair day, she REALLY has a bad hair day.

I really love this show, but I can't stop feeling like the writers think we are idiots to keep trying to use Kim like this as a plot device.
While I agree with you, in fairness isn't this season supposed to take place a few years after last season? I could've sworn it does.
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Kim's storyline
"Three countries"

Dear Fox, we're not as stupid as you think we are.

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This whole plot is just getting silly. Besides the whole three countries bit, are we to believe that the President of the United States would start a war 3 hours after a bomb went off, knowing that people in his administration were plotting against him?

Yikes. Bring back Lady McPalmer, at least then the president won't act like a dumbass.
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About the time Robber Guy grabbed Pauline, er...Kim, she had a definite look on her face like "I should be back at Casa De Paranoia, re-enacting the Kama Sutra w/ Kevin Dillon right about now..."

The poor girl is just a trouble magnet.
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Lame lame lame.
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Just when we thought Kim was redeeming herself in the last episode when she used the gun, we get this.

Not an episode worthy of waiting 3 weeks for, though. Hopefully next week will pick up when Jack meets up w/ the 7th soldier.
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Who is that cobra guy that wants to see Marie? I didnt get a clear look at the guys face, but he looks familair. I can't think of his name though.
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Originally posted by bdshort
Who is that cobra guy that wants to see Marie? I didnt get a clear look at the guys face, but he looks familair. I can't think of his name though.
I doubt it's him, mainly since this guy's 60 years old, but the quick glimpses made me think of Peter Coyote

Anyone know?
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Three weeks worth the wait?

I for one don't think so is it just me or this plot getting lame? And as always Kim gets into trouble again so predictable well there is always the Shield to watch rather than this overrated drama.
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Originally posted by kevin75
i was thinking "why is palmer going to talk to the nation at 5am?" even if he was waiting til the east coast morning news shows, wouldn't he want the entire country up and awake?
I think the season ends at 8AM, so waiting much longer than 5AM won't give them a chance to have the storyline wrap up.
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Originally posted by bdshort
Who is that cobra guy that wants to see Marie? I didnt get a clear look at the guys face, but he looks familair. I can't think of his name though.
He requested to see Kate Warner, not Marie. He's the missing special forces guy that killed the rest of his team in the hanger (thus the tattoo).
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The Coral Snake dude is played by Gregg Henry.

I was hoping Kim would have had the smarts to shoot at the idiot father-to-be's feet to get him dancing and moving his butt out of the store.

This turn of events, where Jack is now on a counter mission to CTU (to prove that the phone tap tape is bogus) is actually pretty interesting in its setup due to all the paranoia-inducing back-channel communications going on, and people choosing sides internally on how to best handle the new threat at hand (impending WWIII).

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Originally posted by bdshort
Who is that cobra guy that wants to see [Kate]? I didnt get a clear look at the guys face, but he looks familair. I can't think of his name though.
I thought it was Gregg Henry. (Damn, Patman beat me.)

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