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Mantecore 12-01-02 04:50 PM

Alias 12-1
 
Post your opinions and comments here!! Starts in a few hours!

JNielsen 12-01-02 05:17 PM

Can't wait for this episode. Looks like a good one!!!

djones6746 12-01-02 06:18 PM

Not only can I not wait to see tonight's episode.....I cannot wait to see it for the first time in High Definition!!!! :D

Mantecore 12-01-02 07:09 PM


Originally posted by djones6746
Not only can I not wait to see tonight's episode.....I cannot wait to see it for the first time in High Definition!!!! :D
lucky, i just bought a hdtv, but my cable company doesn't offer anything in hdtv, so 2morow im going to call direct tv and talk to them about it, Did you notice a much better difference? cause its going to cost quite a bit to upgrade to it

MrX 12-01-02 10:29 PM

ok episode IMO. What was up with the way spy family was shooting those machineguns? I'd also like to thank ABC for apparently spoiling next weeks episode in the preview if what happens is true.

nny 12-01-02 11:11 PM

That ending was so incredibly bad. In addition to how lame the firefight was, rarely have I seen a song so poorly used. Of course I'm biased because I didn't like that song until they used it for Roswell's second season finale. Now I always associate that song with that final scene from Roswell.

djones6746 12-01-02 11:28 PM


Originally posted by Mantecore
lucky, i just bought a hdtv, but my cable company doesn't offer anything in hdtv, so 2morow im going to call direct tv and talk to them about it, Did you notice a much better difference? cause its going to cost quite a bit to upgrade to it

As good or better than watching a dvd.......I did not have to pay for much except a small upgrade to my high def cable box. ABC, NBC and CBS have high def channels as does HBO. :)

mookiemeister 12-01-02 11:56 PM


Originally posted by MrX
ok episode IMO. What was up with the way spy family was shooting those machineguns? I'd also like to thank ABC for apparently spoiling next weeks episode in the preview if what happens is true.
It was fun watching the whole family spraying bullets with those machine guns. It's just so out there.

Also, that scene with Irina in the train, wow! :drool: It's fun watching Jack squirm watching Irina's hot body.

freedexter 12-02-02 12:00 AM


Originally posted by nny
That ending was so incredibly bad. In addition to how lame the firefight was, rarely have I seen a song so poorly used. Of course I'm biased because I didn't like that song until they used it for Roswell's second season finale. Now I always associate that song with that final scene from Roswell.
Yeah. "Walk On"? WTF? Did they just have extra money lying around and decided to pick a U2 song just for kicks? That was so misplaced!

I love the scenes with the family though. Especially when they are all in disguise, it's hilarious to see Jack's horrible disguise. I was ROTFLMAO.

Nice to know Dixon is still alive. Honestly, for a secret agent, the guy doesn't get out much.

The finger scene....eeewww! What it is with Sloane and dismembered fingers? If I recall correctly, the last 2 parter also involved some of that gore.

The preview for next week was a total spoiler. I haven't forgotten that this is ABC - home of the "psych out" previews. I doubt it will really be like they made it seem. And the lame titles..."Operation Peace Keeper" and whatever they called next week's episode...ugh.

I did like the announcer's little thing..."The family that spies together dies together". LOL. :lol: rotfl

MrX 12-02-02 12:41 AM


Originally posted by mookiemeister
It was fun watching the whole family spraying bullets with those machine guns. It's just so out there.
I'm talking about the way they were holding them. I cringe when people shoot them holding the gun at their sides. It just looks better when you hold them like they're supposed to.



Originally posted by freedexter
Especially when they are all in disguise, it's hilarious to see Jack's horrible disguise. I was ROTFLMAO.
I can't believe I forgot about that. His mustache was really bad.

Rogue588 12-02-02 01:27 AM


Originally posted by freedexter
Yeah. "Walk On"? WTF? Did they just have extra money lying around and decided to pick a U2 song just for kicks? That was so misplaced!

The preview for next week was a total spoiler. I haven't forgotten that this is ABC - home of the "psych out" previews. I doubt it will really be like they made it seem. And the lame titles..."Operation Peace Keeper" and whatever they called next week's episode...ugh.

I did like the announcer's little thing..."The family that spies together dies together". LOL. :lol: rotfl

Perhaps all of this is part of ABC's grand scheme to attract "non-viewers".-rolleyes-

As far as the ep goes...it was okay. I really miss the weekly cliffhangers from last season. Other than that, really nothing much to say...

Oh yeah...how bout letting a CIA contact actually survive an episode? If not, just put 'em in red shirts and get it over with...jeez.

ravan 12-02-02 02:27 AM

Did Marshall say "Please dont kill me" to Sark? rotfl

lisadoris 12-02-02 06:41 AM


Originally posted by ravan
Did Marshall say "Please dont kill me" to Sark? rotfl
Oh how I love Marshall, he just kinda threw in the 'don't kill me' line. Okay episode hopefully it was simply a setup for major things happening next week. Random question though - is this the first time we've actually seen Sydney kill someone? I know she's held a gun like twice but I can't recall if she's ever killed anyone on screen.

Snapperhead 12-02-02 07:37 AM

I loved the episode, but i love them all. C'mon... what brings a disfunctional family together more than letting loose hundreds of rounds.

How cheesy, but awesome was vaughn's line, "It stock ticking on oct 1, the day I met you." (or something like that). that guy has game!!!!

Patman 12-02-02 08:24 AM

The best part of last night's episode was to watch Irina yank Jack's chain with so little effort. Jack would jump Irina in a heartbeat if there were no repurcussions because he's still got the hots for her.

Jack is probably yanking Sloane chain with Emily's dead body to keep him distracted and pre-occupied. That was sort of expected, to see her ring finger delivered in a box to SD-6. I'm sure security already x-rayed it and knows a finger was in there. Gruesome...

I noticed a larger sense of James Bond type of music played throughout the episode, and the impending danger music cues being played right before a commercial break.

The Will-Vaughn angle is going to pay off big, and Will's going get him a job in the spy biz sooner or later.

If Irina is to be trusted, it was smart of her to not let Sark know of the double-agent status of either Jack or Sydney, that gives her an internal bargaining chip for this current contingency. If Sark knew (and he still well might), then it might be all too easy for him to slip up in some capacity and give Irina away. The less Sark knew, the better it was for Irina (who doesn't strike me as a person who gives away bargaining chips carelessly).

There were a few "family" shots (leaving the holding cell), and "the family that shoots together, stays together" shot that were just a bit too cute. At least they didn't end the episode with being captured, but went ahead and got them out of that tight spot, and then had them walk into the darkness (sort of like in the ending in
Spoiler:
Fellowship of the Ring with Sam and Frodo marching towards the towers.
)

Lateralus42 12-02-02 11:53 AM

Last night was the first time I had ever seen Alias. (Im an Angel fan!). I liked the show alot, even though I had no clue what was going on most of the time. Now that Angel has moved timeslots, Im going to watch Alias more, maybe I can even figure it all out before the season ending episode. =/

Mantecore 12-02-02 08:30 PM

Great episode, i love when the mom kissed jack, i was laughing my ass off, next week looks awesome though, and the whole family action was sweet!

Static Cling 12-02-02 08:34 PM


Originally posted by nny
That ending was so incredibly bad. In addition to how lame the firefight was, rarely have I seen a song so poorly used. Of course I'm biased because I didn't like that song until they used it for Roswell's second season finale. Now I always associate that song with that final scene from Roswell.
Agreed on all counts. The "shooting from the hip" thing is unwise because of its inaccuracy, and they should know that, being superspies and all that. Plus, I sure as hell wouldn't just be standing there, firing madly... I'd be finding some cover.

CaptainMarvel 12-02-02 09:01 PM


Originally posted by Lateralus42
Last night was the first time I had ever seen Alias. (Im an Angel fan!). I liked the show alot, even though I had no clue what was going on most of the time. Now that Angel has moved timeslots, Im going to watch Alias more, maybe I can even figure it all out before the season ending episode. =/
Ditto... I wish there was an Alias box set so I could figure out what the hell is going on. It was good (except for the firefight... that... was... lame... they might as well have played a Dido song).

cooper2000 12-02-02 10:17 PM

I was thinking the same thing as Rouge. Maybe this is there idea of dumbing the show down a notch to appeal to everyone and the machine gun fire was their way of doing with the family gun fire and all.
Not a great episode but still a cut above.
I thought the song was lame too. My roomated walked in and said, what is this, the WB?

Rogue588 12-02-02 10:22 PM


Originally posted by cooper2000
I was thinking the same thing as

Rouge.
It's ROGUE ROGUE ROGUE!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Sorry 'bout that. :D

rkndkn 12-03-02 12:17 PM


Originally posted by Snapperhead
How cheesy, but awesome was vaughn's line, "It stock ticking on oct 1, the day I met you." (or something like that). that guy has game!!!!
Ugh, I absolutely hated this scene! It was groan-worthy. It was the first time I really felt sick of the whole Vaughn/Sidney relationship.

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that was the worst use of music in this episode.

Static Cling 12-03-02 01:03 PM

Seriously. What the hell was that line about? I wanted to like that line, but I had no idea what it even meant.

"The same day I met you, my dad's watch broke. Pretty spooky, huh?

Wanna make out?"

Patman 12-03-02 01:21 PM

The line was just to show how meeting Sydney totally shook up his hum-drum tick-tock existence, so much so, his dad's watch, which kept perfect time up to that point, just up and died. It's a "sign" for Vaughn. Whether anyone else puts any value in his observation is one thing, but from his character's point of view, it meant the life as he knew it was now changed forever on that very day when he first met Sydney.

hahn 12-03-02 05:06 PM


Originally posted by Patman
The line was just to show how meeting Sydney totally shook up his hum-drum tick-tock existence, so much so, his dad's watch, which kept perfect time up to that point, just up and died. It's a "sign" for Vaughn. Whether anyone else puts any value in his observation is one thing, but from his character's point of view, it meant the life as he knew it was now changed forever on that very day when he first met Sydney.
That may be so, but the line was still really hokey.

I agree, music wasn't really well done in this episode. But then again, there were lots of times I didn't feel the music fit in last season too. Abrams has a tendency to way overdo the music in his shows (a la Felicity). Oh well, at least I like his taste in music...usually.

Best line of the night: Marshall - "Hi. Welcome. Don't kill me."

hahn 12-03-02 05:08 PM


Originally posted by rkndkn
Ugh, I absolutely hated this scene! It was groan-worthy. It was the first time I really felt sick of the whole Vaughn/Sidney relationship.

Amen. I'm actually cheering on Will now. Maybe cause I identify with him - the nice guy; the perennial girl's best friend.

Patman 12-03-02 05:43 PM

The other interpretation of the watch stop ticking is that for Vaughn, by meeting Sydney, time stopped for him. He knew that he met the one he was meant to be with.

Okay, still hokey, but women seem to eat that shiite up!

cooper2000 12-03-02 05:45 PM

I've always liked Will better and never understood why people hated him because he was the nice guy and was looking out for Sydney.

rkndkn 12-03-02 06:47 PM


Originally posted by Patman
The other interpretation of the watch stop ticking is that for Vaughn, by meeting Sydney, time stopped for him. He knew that he met the one he was meant to be with.

Okay, still hokey, but women seem to eat that shiite up!

I know that's what the line meant, and I'm a woman, but it made me roll my eyes! Too hokey!

Dr. Rosenrosen 12-04-02 09:09 AM

One question-- how does getting a finger in a box prove Emily is alive? That makes little sense.

Marshall is the laughs per line king of television.

Is anybody on the show right now one of the possible 40 perfect scorers on the IQ test? They should be around 25 right now, which seems young for most of the cast.

bboisvert 12-04-02 10:45 AM


Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
One question-- how does getting a finger in a box prove Emily is alive? That makes little sense.
That's exactly what I said while watching it. He asks for proof that she's alive and they send a body part?!? And that proves what, exactly?

Patman 12-04-02 11:56 AM

Just proves someone has Emily's body...dead or alive.

Professor Frink 12-04-02 12:16 PM


Originally posted by lisadoris
Random question though - is this the first time we've actually seen Sydney kill someone? I know she's held a gun like twice but I can't recall if she's ever killed anyone on screen.

Yeah, she never kills anyone, she just kicks them or shoots them with a dart. I guess the producers want to keep her sympathetic in the audience's eyes. But of course Dixon and Jack kill all the time. :)

As for this episode -- they seemed to keep it kind of vague. All three of them were shooting, and bad guys kept falling. You can't be sure if Sydney killed anyone or not.

fujishig 12-04-02 12:54 PM

I thought the Vaugn thing was pretty obvious... but i might be mistaken.

I thought he said that his dad told him that the watch was so accurate, that he could set his heart by it.

And then the watch stopped on the day they met... so his heart stopped.

Still really, really hokey.

I had originally thought that the reason Sydney nearly fainted while she was shooting was because she had killed someone... but she had just been shot. I don't think they have ever shown her killing anyone directly.

hahn 12-04-02 05:18 PM


Originally posted by cooper2000
I've always liked Will better and never understood why people hated him because he was the nice guy and was looking out for Sydney.
Before, he just seemed desperate to be with Syd for no good reason other than she was hot. Plus, it seemed a bit sleazy that he went for her after her fiance got killed. And it seemed he was chasing down the clues just to impress Syd rather than out of genuine care for her.

But now, their friendship seems much deeper. He's been through the wringer for her, and her for him. A relationship between them would now be EARNED and that means a lot more.

hahn 12-04-02 05:20 PM


Originally posted by rkndkn
I know that's what the line meant, and I'm a woman, but it made me roll my eyes! Too hokey!
Amen to that. I actually had to replay it on my Tivo several times because I didn't believe that they would actually put a line THAT corny in there and thought I had somehow misheard or misunderstood what he was saying.

Random 12-05-02 12:24 AM

This episode was an episode of a bunch of great scenes that didn't belong together. That song at the end.. WTF..


but its Alias, its Jennifer Garner, so its still pretty damn good. :)

Patman 12-05-02 09:25 AM

The whole Emily thing is probably Jack's doing (distracting Sloan so he can take the family all over the world).

Professor Frink 12-05-02 12:10 PM


Originally posted by Patman
The whole Emily thing is probably Jack's doing (distracting Sloan so he can take the family all over the world).

That is exactly what I was thinking! Jack and Sydney have been doing a lot of non-SD6 stuff lately, and it doesn't matter because Sloan is off in La-La Land.

Static Cling 12-05-02 12:17 PM


Originally posted by Patman
The whole Emily thing is probably Jack's doing (distracting Sloan so he can take the family all over the world).
Heh. I thought about that, too. He even had a little scene with Sydney that possibly alluded to this (paraphrased):

Syndey: "How did you clear this with Sloane?"
Jack: "Don't worry, I took care of Sloane."

I thought it was curious that they never showed how Jack took care of Sloane... unless the phone call and the special delivery was how Jack took care of him.

I wonder if this will lead into a plot in which SpyDaddy gets even darker as a character. First episode, we find out that he's a superspy. Then we see him kill Vaughn's coworker that was a moel for Khasinau (?). Then we see him set up SpyMommy. Then we see that he put Sydney through Project Christmas. What's next?


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