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11-06-02, 02:42 AM
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Re: Re: Afraid I'm w/ the consensus here...
Originally posted by juiio
His car had one of those security tracking devices. That's why he called the tracking company and asked them to tell him the location of his car.
He wasn't looking for the sister in law. He was going to his car to run errands for his fiance and the sister in law happened to be in the car. That's why he mentinoed that he'd park the car on the other side of the street when he got back.
His car had one of those security tracking devices. That's why he called the tracking company and asked them to tell him the location of his car.
He wasn't looking for the sister in law. He was going to his car to run errands for his fiance and the sister in law happened to be in the car. That's why he mentinoed that he'd park the car on the other side of the street when he got back.
Okay, fair enough. I'll give you the first one. Now that you mention it, I remember him making the call. I withdraw that as a DEM. I can easily substitute the conveniently placed construction crew that blocked her exit.
As for the second one, whether or not (and you're right, he wasn't specifically tracking her down) he was looking for her, he came around at exactly the right moment to create a little artificial suspense. (I think w/o Kim's shenanigans, I would've bought that easier, but my patience was wearing thin by then...)
11-06-02, 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by juiio
BTW, when the guy got out of his car, Kim should have just floored it into him.
BTW, when the guy got out of his car, Kim should have just floored it into him.
11-06-02, 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Patman
They did screw up the timing at the start of the episode where they show Jack in the helicopter with the new CTU female agent, and then they drop off Jack, and within 2 minutes, the female agent is back at her CTU desk. I don't think so.
They did screw up the timing at the start of the episode where they show Jack in the helicopter with the new CTU female agent, and then they drop off Jack, and within 2 minutes, the female agent is back at her CTU desk. I don't think so.
Because not only was she back at her desk, it appears she had been working on something at her computer for awhile.
11-06-02, 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Trelach24
Here's what makes NO sense at all.....at the end of last season Jack was all over TV at the end.....and now he's going undercover again with guys he knows? Didn't anyone think of the possibility that after he was on TV after saving Palmer last season one of these bad guys he knows would see it and go "Oh damn! That guy's a cop!"
Here's what makes NO sense at all.....at the end of last season Jack was all over TV at the end.....and now he's going undercover again with guys he knows? Didn't anyone think of the possibility that after he was on TV after saving Palmer last season one of these bad guys he knows would see it and go "Oh damn! That guy's a cop!"
11-06-02, 09:07 AM
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Yawn.
Again, I like the main plot with Jack, mainly because Keifer is a fantastic actor. A little silly that he can go undercover, but the show's never made an attempt to make sense, so why start now?
Kim's storyline got lamer than before, and I agree with all who believe she did in fact get dumber than last season. It was painful enough to put up with 24 hours of her and her idiot mother running around to push the plot along; I don't think I can take another 24 hours of this stupidity. It still amazes me that people like this kind of manipulative storytelling. "Let's turn down that alley!" At least she didn't leave the car on the side of a cliff while getting out to "check for badguys." Give her time.
Clear again that either the "real time" aspect won't be followed or CTU possesses wormhole technology.
das
Again, I like the main plot with Jack, mainly because Keifer is a fantastic actor. A little silly that he can go undercover, but the show's never made an attempt to make sense, so why start now?
Kim's storyline got lamer than before, and I agree with all who believe she did in fact get dumber than last season. It was painful enough to put up with 24 hours of her and her idiot mother running around to push the plot along; I don't think I can take another 24 hours of this stupidity. It still amazes me that people like this kind of manipulative storytelling. "Let's turn down that alley!" At least she didn't leave the car on the side of a cliff while getting out to "check for badguys." Give her time.
Clear again that either the "real time" aspect won't be followed or CTU possesses wormhole technology.
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11-06-02, 09:20 AM
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I can just about take a stupid Kim Bauer (she's easy on the eyes), but the whiny kid has GOT to go! (I know she's missing, but I bet that won't last more than two episodes.)
I LOVED Mason's cowardly retreat!
I agree that the planned attack on CTU is not directly related to the nuclear bomb, but Jack will undoubtedly uncover some evidence while foiling that plot which will lead him to the big bad guys.
I LOVED Mason's cowardly retreat!
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I agree that the planned attack on CTU is not directly related to the nuclear bomb, but Jack will undoubtedly uncover some evidence while foiling that plot which will lead him to the big bad guys.
11-06-02, 09:21 AM
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Re: Afraid I'm w/ the consensus here...
Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
Maybe construction workers are especially laid back in L.A., but around here, that guy would have had @ five of them all over him: two for reasons of chivalry and three in a vain attempt to impress Kim and get a chance to Go Downtown, if you know what I mean...
Maybe construction workers are especially laid back in L.A., but around here, that guy would have had @ five of them all over him: two for reasons of chivalry and three in a vain attempt to impress Kim and get a chance to Go Downtown, if you know what I mean...
11-06-02, 09:51 AM
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If the kid's head was hurting, Kim should have picked her up. She doesn't look that heavy. Anybody see Kim's cellphone left in her room right when Jack is leaving a message on it to get out of town? If the wife-beater really is one of the bad guys, and he sees Kim's cellphone with Jack's voicemail on it, do you think he could put 2+2 together and realize CTU is looking for them? I think that would make a pretty good twist.
11-06-02, 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by huzefa
If the wife-beater really is one of the bad guys, and he sees Kim's cellphone with Jack's voicemail on it, do you think he could put 2+2 together and realize CTU is looking for them? I think that would make a pretty good twist.
If the wife-beater really is one of the bad guys, and he sees Kim's cellphone with Jack's voicemail on it, do you think he could put 2+2 together and realize CTU is looking for them? I think that would make a pretty good twist.
The more I think about how stupid the Kim thing is, the more I wish I had watched Smallville now that I think about it. "Oh, look an abandoned alley! Let's go there!"
Originally posted by samuelk
I originally wondered that, too. But what if she DOES yell for help? She has no legal right to keep the child from her father (she can't really prove that he hit anyone, unless the daughter says something, and that's no likely in her state).
I originally wondered that, too. But what if she DOES yell for help? She has no legal right to keep the child from her father (she can't really prove that he hit anyone, unless the daughter says something, and that's no likely in her state).
11-06-02, 11:47 AM
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Spoiler:
I don't think he's a coward at all. At first, I thought he himself was going to go after Kim after breaking his promise to Jack. Now I think he has more information than anyone else and is trying to foil the plot himself...
any comments on that?
11-06-02, 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Patman
They did screw up the timing at the start of the episode where they show Jack in the helicopter with the new CTU female agent, and then they drop off Jack, and within 2 minutes, the female agent is back at her CTU desk. I don't think so.
They did screw up the timing at the start of the episode where they show Jack in the helicopter with the new CTU female agent, and then they drop off Jack, and within 2 minutes, the female agent is back at her CTU desk. I don't think so.
I also thought Kim was pretty dumb. I'd have rammed his convertible.
But all that said, this is still the best series on TV. I can hardly wait till the next episode. It's amazing to me that they can keep pushing new twists and surprising me.
11-06-02, 12:26 PM
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Add me to the "can't stand the Kim storyline" brigade. My question-- what is psycho man's wife doing? Nothing? I'm just tired of "Kim in jeopardy" scenarios.
I like the fact that both Bauer and Palmer are less goody-goody than last year. For me, the holy sh** moment from last night's episode was the Secret Service detaining the reporter.
Maybe the Vice President is with Sherri Palmer?
Was Keith eaten by a Grizzly?
I like the fact that both Bauer and Palmer are less goody-goody than last year. For me, the holy sh** moment from last night's episode was the Secret Service detaining the reporter.
Maybe the Vice President is with Sherri Palmer?
Was Keith eaten by a Grizzly?
11-06-02, 12:41 PM
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Just idle speculation, but if you were planning on blowing up a nuke, it would be sensible to conventionally bomb CTU just to have them all scrambled and incoherent while you go about your business and get the real nuke in place to detonate.
11-06-02, 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by davejt1
Is this the answer?
At the end of the episode, when Jack asked what they were doing with the explosives in the van, didn't the one guy say "creating a diversion" or something like that
Is this the answer?
At the end of the episode, when Jack asked what they were doing with the explosives in the van, didn't the one guy say "creating a diversion" or something like that
So I don't think they are doing it to scramble up CTU for a bigger bomb... i think these thugs are just taking out CTU because they have a history with it, and could be hired to do so... I don't think it is to make the Pres think that this was the threat...
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11-06-02, 06:39 PM
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Ahhh, the joys of fastforwarding during the Kim subplot. I am seriously not going to be able to watch this live until it ends. Now I know they need SOMETHING else to fill out the time Jack isn't beating people up, or Mason is.. well being Mason, but this is the best they could come up with for Kim? Hopefully I'm wrong and this will really turn into something , but right now it doesn't look good.
The guys Jack are in with now are definatly a diversion. Loved Jack kicking the crap out of the computer guy.
What was with Mason's vision? Think this was just a result of him being in a sort of daze seeing that report with the 89-93% probability of a detonation?(which would make sense considering his immediate reaction of trying to head out of town) That or this will be a recurring theme, and we'll eventually have the scene where Mason has to find a small button on a console of hundreds, he squints and somehow finds what he needs in order to save the world
Oh, I'm enjoying the scenes with Palmer much more thus far than last season.
The guys Jack are in with now are definatly a diversion. Loved Jack kicking the crap out of the computer guy.
What was with Mason's vision? Think this was just a result of him being in a sort of daze seeing that report with the 89-93% probability of a detonation?(which would make sense considering his immediate reaction of trying to head out of town) That or this will be a recurring theme, and we'll eventually have the scene where Mason has to find a small button on a console of hundreds, he squints and somehow finds what he needs in order to save the world
Oh, I'm enjoying the scenes with Palmer much more thus far than last season.
11-06-02, 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Flynn
I don't think he's a coward at all. At first, I thought he himself was going to go after Kim after breaking his promise to Jack. Now I think he has more information than anyone else and is trying to foil the plot himself...
any comments on that?
I don't think he's a coward at all. At first, I thought he himself was going to go after Kim after breaking his promise to Jack. Now I think he has more information than anyone else and is trying to foil the plot himself...
any comments on that?
Also, my guess is that these bozos Jack's hanging with now are more McVeigh style domestic terrorists. Whether they're cooperating w/ someone else or this whole avenue is a red herring is an interesting question.
(Wasn't that wound-the-fuses-too-tight dude the guy from Sheryl Crow's All I Wanna Do video?)
11-06-02, 08:17 PM
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'24' Up; 'Frasier' Down
Fox's 24, which drew its best numbers ever for its season debut last week (8.0/11), drew even stronger numbers Tuesday night (8.5/12). The serial drama, starring Kiefer Sutherland, placed first in its time period among 18-49-year-olds but ranked second to NBC's Fear Factor (9.5/13) in households. ABC's new 8:00 p.m. sitcom 8 Simple Rules... also held up admirably, placing second in households in the overnights with a 9.5/14 but placing first in the 18-49 category. Ratings for NBC's Frasier continued to deteriorate, however, as it was pushed into the 9:30 p.m. half hour by a special 90-minute version of Fear Factor. The show's 9.5/11 result was well below last year's average.
Uhm. Wooo!
Fox's 24, which drew its best numbers ever for its season debut last week (8.0/11), drew even stronger numbers Tuesday night (8.5/12). The serial drama, starring Kiefer Sutherland, placed first in its time period among 18-49-year-olds but ranked second to NBC's Fear Factor (9.5/13) in households. ABC's new 8:00 p.m. sitcom 8 Simple Rules... also held up admirably, placing second in households in the overnights with a 9.5/14 but placing first in the 18-49 category. Ratings for NBC's Frasier continued to deteriorate, however, as it was pushed into the 9:30 p.m. half hour by a special 90-minute version of Fear Factor. The show's 9.5/11 result was well below last year's average.
Uhm. Wooo!
